Topic: told ya obama wouldnt stop the war?
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Wed 01/21/09 08:19 AM

He has actually already begun the process of deploying some troops from Iraq and 'revamping' who will stay (so to speak). He is also working on getting them into Afganistan to fix the problems there that they should have fixed in the first place.

The first line of business was a memo that he signed and went out last night to all of the member of the house. All acts that WERE to be enacted are to be temporarily stopped until they have given them further scrutiny.

He means business. There will be a better America soon.


He's done that already? Wow.

I knew he stopped by 10 balls last night and went to church this morning.


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Wed 01/21/09 08:21 AM

He has actually already begun the process of deploying some troops from Iraq and 'revamping' who will stay (so to speak). He is also working on getting them into Afganistan to fix the problems there that they should have fixed in the first place.

The first line of business was a memo that he signed and went out last night to all of the member of the house. All acts that WERE to be enacted are to be temporarily stopped until they have given them further scrutiny.

He means business. There will be a better America soon.


I believe that as well, but again, it won't be soon enough for some. If things aren't fixed in a week, then people will just give up. Most of the problems we have have been years, if not decades, in the making. I doubt many of them can even be fully solved in 2 terms, if he were to be elected again.

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Wed 01/21/09 08:25 AM


He has actually already begun the process of deploying some troops from Iraq and 'revamping' who will stay (so to speak). He is also working on getting them into Afganistan to fix the problems there that they should have fixed in the first place.

The first line of business was a memo that he signed and went out last night to all of the member of the house. All acts that WERE to be enacted are to be temporarily stopped until they have given them further scrutiny.

He means business. There will be a better America soon.


I believe that as well, but again, it won't be soon enough for some. If things aren't fixed in a week, then people will just give up. Most of the problems we have have been years, if not decades, in the making. I doubt many of them can even be fully solved in 2 terms, if he were to be elected again.

nah...i think a lot of people believe in what he stands for and there is a true hope again.

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Wed 01/21/09 08:47 AM
Most reasonable people understand he can’t fix these problems in their entirety in two terms.

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Wed 01/21/09 09:56 AM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 01/21/09 10:06 AM

LETS GET REAL.THERE IS FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES NO WAR TO STOP.ARGUABLY THE WAR IS WON.THE IRACK GOVERNMENT WILL SOON CONTROLL THE GREEN ZONE.LETS SEE IF HE GETS O.B.L.?AND HIS STIMULANT PACKAGE IS A WASTE OF MONEY .MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GIVEN TO STUDY THE OCEAN>HOWS THAT CREATE JOBS.
Do you hear yourself. The war is won?Just what have we won in Iraq? Did we beat their army? Yes and Bush was right about mission accomplished on that front. Now lets talk about what army. Seems we walked right into Baghdad did we not. They had no military threat left from the first one. Did we find WMD? No!!! Did we create the place we were all told to fear? Yes!!

If GWB wanted OBL so bad he wouldnt have pulled resources out of Afghanistan to fight and create the mess mentioned above!!! Leaving our own troops there in undue risk by doing so. So now we have to commit more troops to do the job that should have been done in the first place...GWB had 7 years to take out OBL!!!

Now as far as "Pulling our troops out of Iraq. You stated the the Iraq government was "ready" to take over the green zone. Just when do you think the will be able to take over their country and defend that country? 16 months? 3 years? Iraq could only hold Iran to a stand still fully armed and with our support. The Iran-Iraq war!!! So you think they could stand up to them with us gone? Wasn't that the reason we support Iraq in the first place. IRAN? Do you see them being able to control their own civil unrest without us? Do you honestly see them being able to do that without us in the next 5 years? 10 years? We are stuck!!! Plain and simple! We pull out we will be going back in. Its a no "WIN" situation!!!!!

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Wed 01/21/09 04:57 PM


LETS GET REAL.THERE IS FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES NO WAR TO STOP.ARGUABLY THE WAR IS WON.THE IRACK GOVERNMENT WILL SOON CONTROLL THE GREEN ZONE.LETS SEE IF HE GETS O.B.L.?AND HIS STIMULANT PACKAGE IS A WASTE OF MONEY .MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GIVEN TO STUDY THE OCEAN>HOWS THAT CREATE JOBS.
Do you hear yourself. The war is won?Just what have we won in Iraq? Did we beat their army? Yes and Bush was right about mission accomplished on that front. Now lets talk about what army. Seems we walked right into Baghdad did we not. They had no military threat left from the first one. Did we find WMD? No!!! Did we create the place we were all told to fear? Yes!!

If GWB wanted OBL so bad he wouldnt have pulled resources out of Afghanistan to fight and create the mess mentioned above!!! Leaving our own troops there in undue risk by doing so. So now we have to commit more troops to do the job that should have been done in the first place...GWB had 7 years to take out OBL!!!

Now as far as "Pulling our troops out of Iraq. You stated the the Iraq government was "ready" to take over the green zone. Just when do you think the will be able to take over their country and defend that country? 16 months? 3 years? Iraq could only hold Iran to a stand still fully armed and with our support. The Iran-Iraq war!!! So you think they could stand up to them with us gone? Wasn't that the reason we support Iraq in the first place. IRAN? Do you see them being able to control their own civil unrest without us? Do you honestly see them being able to do that without us in the next 5 years? 10 years? We are stuck!!! Plain and simple! We pull out we will be going back in. Its a no "WIN" situation!!!!!


Very nice Templter

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Wed 01/21/09 06:12 PM



LETS GET REAL.THERE IS FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES NO WAR TO STOP.ARGUABLY THE WAR IS WON.THE IRACK GOVERNMENT WILL SOON CONTROLL THE GREEN ZONE.LETS SEE IF HE GETS O.B.L.?AND HIS STIMULANT PACKAGE IS A WASTE OF MONEY .MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GIVEN TO STUDY THE OCEAN>HOWS THAT CREATE JOBS.
Do you hear yourself. The war is won?Just what have we won in Iraq? Did we beat their army? Yes and Bush was right about mission accomplished on that front. Now lets talk about what army. Seems we walked right into Baghdad did we not. They had no military threat left from the first one. Did we find WMD? No!!! Did we create the place we were all told to fear? Yes!!

If GWB wanted OBL so bad he wouldnt have pulled resources out of Afghanistan to fight and create the mess mentioned above!!! Leaving our own troops there in undue risk by doing so. So now we have to commit more troops to do the job that should have been done in the first place...GWB had 7 years to take out OBL!!!

Now as far as "Pulling our troops out of Iraq. You stated the the Iraq government was "ready" to take over the green zone. Just when do you think the will be able to take over their country and defend that country? 16 months? 3 years? Iraq could only hold Iran to a stand still fully armed and with our support. The Iran-Iraq war!!! So you think they could stand up to them with us gone? Wasn't that the reason we support Iraq in the first place. IRAN? Do you see them being able to control their own civil unrest without us? Do you honestly see them being able to do that without us in the next 5 years? 10 years? We are stuck!!! Plain and simple! We pull out we will be going back in. Its a no "WIN" situation!!!!!


Very nice Templter
All you have to do is just think about what we did for Saddam and truly look at the "Whole" picture and not what the media is putting out. I did six years in the gulf from 79-85. I saw first hand the "Help" we gave Saddam and had a good view of the Iran-Iraq war.


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Wed 01/21/09 07:22 PM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 01/21/09 07:23 PM


LETS GET REAL.THERE IS FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES NO WAR TO STOP.ARGUABLY THE WAR IS WON.THE IRACK GOVERNMENT WILL SOON CONTROLL THE GREEN ZONE.LETS SEE IF HE GETS O.B.L.?AND HIS STIMULANT PACKAGE IS A WASTE OF MONEY .MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GIVEN TO STUDY THE OCEAN>HOWS THAT CREATE JOBS.
Do you hear yourself. The war is won?Just what have we won in Iraq? Did we beat their army? Yes and Bush was right about mission accomplished on that front. Now lets talk about what army. Seems we walked right into Baghdad did we not. They had no military threat left from the first one. Did we find WMD? No!!! Did we create the place we were all told to fear? Yes!!

If GWB wanted OBL so bad he wouldnt have pulled resources out of Afghanistan to fight and create the mess mentioned above!!! Leaving our own troops there in undue risk by doing so. So now we have to commit more troops to do the job that should have been done in the first place...GWB had 7 years to take out OBL!!!

Now as far as "Pulling our troops out of Iraq. You stated the the Iraq government was "ready" to take over the green zone. Just when do you think the will be able to take over their country and defend that country? 16 months? 3 years? Iraq could only hold Iran to a stand still fully armed and with our support. The Iran-Iraq war!!! So you think they could stand up to them with us gone? Wasn't that the reason we support Iraq in the first place. IRAN? Do you see them being able to control their own civil unrest without us? Do you honestly see them being able to do that without us in the next 5 years? 10 years? We are stuck!!! Plain and simple! We pull out we will be going back in. Its a no "WIN" situation!!!!!
I have posted this on many threads and no one seems to respond.

No "Your crazy", "Thats insane" ??????? No one wants to prove it wrong???

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Wed 01/21/09 07:28 PM
how can we be an example of freedom if we do pull out
(we cann't) america would be seen as defeated.

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Wed 01/21/09 07:36 PM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 01/21/09 07:42 PM

how can we be an example of freedom if we do pull out
(we cann't) america would be seen as defeated.
We should have never went back in!!! If Iran or another country threaten to invade Iraq then we should have stepped up. How could we not since we severely crippled them in the first war.(OR was that the reason we went back in?HMMMM) The whole reason we support Iraq in the first place was because if Iran invaded it was a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia. Couldn't let them have control of that oil and the Persian Gulf. WE CANT LEAVE but we only have ourselves to blame!!!!

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Wed 01/21/09 07:48 PM


how can we be an example of freedom if we do pull out
(we cann't) america would be seen as defeated.
We should have never went back in!!! If Iran or another country threaten to invade Iraq then we should have stepped up. How could we not since we severely crippled them in the first war.(OR was that the reason we went back in?HMMMM) The whole reason we support Iraq in the first place was because if Iran invaded it was a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia. Couldn't let them have control of that oil and the Persian Gulf. WE CANT LEAVE but we only have ourselves to blame!!!!
there is always an underlining agenda but it's supposedly to free the people so they can be as screwed as we arelaugh

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Wed 01/21/09 09:05 PM

there is always an underlining agenda but it's supposedly to free the people so they can be as screwed as we arelaugh



You really don't believe we went in to Iraq to free the people did you....

Winx's photo
Wed 01/21/09 09:07 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 01/21/09 09:07 PM


there is always an underlining agenda but it's supposedly to free the people so they can be as screwed as we arelaugh



You really don't believe we went in to Iraq to free the people did you....


I thought it was to take our minds off the fact that Bush couldn't find Obama.



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Wed 01/21/09 09:09 PM

he has no power


lame

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Thu 01/22/09 11:19 AM



LETS GET REAL.THERE IS FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES NO WAR TO STOP.ARGUABLY THE WAR IS WON.THE IRACK GOVERNMENT WILL SOON CONTROLL THE GREEN ZONE.LETS SEE IF HE GETS O.B.L.?AND HIS STIMULANT PACKAGE IS A WASTE OF MONEY .MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GIVEN TO STUDY THE OCEAN>HOWS THAT CREATE JOBS.
Do you hear yourself. The war is won?Just what have we won in Iraq? Did we beat their army? Yes and Bush was right about mission accomplished on that front. Now lets talk about what army. Seems we walked right into Baghdad did we not. They had no military threat left from the first one. Did we find WMD? No!!! Did we create the place we were all told to fear? Yes!!

If GWB wanted OBL so bad he wouldnt have pulled resources out of Afghanistan to fight and create the mess mentioned above!!! Leaving our own troops there in undue risk by doing so. So now we have to commit more troops to do the job that should have been done in the first place...GWB had 7 years to take out OBL!!!

Now as far as "Pulling our troops out of Iraq. You stated the the Iraq government was "ready" to take over the green zone. Just when do you think the will be able to take over their country and defend that country? 16 months? 3 years? Iraq could only hold Iran to a stand still fully armed and with our support. The Iran-Iraq war!!! So you think they could stand up to them with us gone? Wasn't that the reason we support Iraq in the first place. IRAN? Do you see them being able to control their own civil unrest without us? Do you honestly see them being able to do that without us in the next 5 years? 10 years? We are stuck!!! Plain and simple! We pull out we will be going back in. Its a no "WIN" situation!!!!!
I have posted this on many threads and no one seems to respond.

No "Your crazy", "Thats insane" ??????? No one wants to prove it wrong???
Where is all the Bushies comments?

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Thu 01/22/09 03:24 PM



there is always an underlining agenda but it's supposedly to free the people so they can be as screwed as we arelaugh



You really don't believe we went in to Iraq to free the people did you....


I thought it was to take our minds off the fact that Bush couldn't find Obama.





I'm surprised you put that Winx.. LOL

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Thu 01/22/09 03:27 PM
Dude you must really suck at dancing....because the entire world watched him...and realized...yes, he is half white..laugh laugh laugh

Michael Basden is sending him a "Chicago Style Steppin' Video" so that he will quit embarrassing himself....




he has no power

But Dued,
He just got in from an alnight party with his friends. How much power do you have all hung over and tired eh? At least he dances better than me.
Let him clock-in and take charge eh?

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Thu 01/22/09 03:47 PM



there is always an underlining agenda but it's supposedly to free the people so they can be as screwed as we arelaugh



You really don't believe we went in to Iraq to free the people did you....


I thought it was to take our minds off the fact that Bush couldn't find Obama.






You mean Osama?:tongue:

Winx's photo
Thu 01/22/09 03:51 PM




there is always an underlining agenda but it's supposedly to free the people so they can be as screwed as we arelaugh



You really don't believe we went in to Iraq to free the people did you....


I thought it was to take our minds off the fact that Bush couldn't find Obama.






You mean Osama?:tongue:


Oh, crap, I did a major typo.slaphead

Winx's photo
Thu 01/22/09 03:52 PM




there is always an underlining agenda but it's supposedly to free the people so they can be as screwed as we arelaugh



You really don't believe we went in to Iraq to free the people did you....


I thought it was to take our minds off the fact that Bush couldn't find Obama.





I'm surprised you put that Winx.. LOL


I didn't mean to do that.tears