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Favorite: Lincoln Lincoln was an amazing president. He saw the divide created by the Civil war and decided to fix it. Besides freeing of the slaves, Lincolns second greatest act as president was pardoning the Confederates, which ensured that the wounds caused by the Civil War would heal. Least Favorite: Andrew Jackson A murderous racist. I'm not sure on a policy front about his presidency, but the murder and racism part outweighs any good he might have done. It looks like I'll be doing some reading about Jackson now. I didn't know that he was like that. Jackson signed the "Indian Removal Act" |
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Favorite: Lincoln Lincoln was an amazing president. He saw the divide created by the Civil war and decided to fix it. Besides freeing of the slaves, Lincolns second greatest act as president was pardoning the Confederates, which ensured that the wounds caused by the Civil War would heal. Least Favorite: Andrew Jackson A murderous racist. I'm not sure on a policy front about his presidency, but the murder and racism part outweighs any good he might have done. It looks like I'll be doing some reading about Jackson now. I didn't know that he was like that. Jackson signed the "Indian Removal Act" I didn't know that. |
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Edited by
quiet_2008
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Tue 01/20/09 11:50 AM
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Favorite: Lincoln Lincoln was an amazing president. He saw the divide created by the Civil war and decided to fix it. Besides freeing of the slaves, Lincolns second greatest act as president was pardoning the Confederates, which ensured that the wounds caused by the Civil War would heal. Least Favorite: Andrew Jackson A murderous racist. I'm not sure on a policy front about his presidency, but the murder and racism part outweighs any good he might have done. It looks like I'll be doing some reading about Jackson now. I didn't know that he was like that. but like all Presidents, he did a lot of good stuff too He destroyed the Bank of America, believing that the administration of it would place their profit ahead of the good of the country He is the ONLY president to ever pay off the national debt EDIT: he ordered the Indians to move west of the Mississippi. The Cherokee sued him and won in the Supreme Court. Jackson's response was "The Supreme Court made their decision. Now let em enforce it" and made them move to Oklahoma anyway. known as the "Trail of Tears" |
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im going back to the not caring way of life you guys are to preachy except for you dbh1966 your nice I'm certainly not preachy. I am getting tired of watching people talk to thier imaginary friends & claim they are better because they believe in something that was made up to control them. It's like watching kids argue who's better,Santa or the Easter Bunny! GET REAL! You can't be "saved" no one gets out alive. If your God existed & cared about who was president, then he'd make sure his guy was in office. It's that simple. I am always tried to be politeon this matter but I am SICK of the religous crap! religion is all about control. Kill the infidel & be rewarded in the afterlife, accept slavery & be rewarded when you die. How stupid can people be? Start thinking for yourself! Take care everybody. C ya Oh and I love America!! 
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Edited by
Spidercmb
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Tue 01/20/09 11:56 AM
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Ronald Reagan was the president who:
1) Removed the tax burden from people in Poverty, before Reagan, they paid taxes. 2) Defeated the USSR in the cold war. 3) Caused the longest period of growth in American history with Economic indicators going up in every sector. The only economic indicator that didn't rise was "savings", which Reagan had no control over. 4) Signed MLK, jr Day into law. 5) Freed the Iranian hostages through threats of military force. 6) Lowered taxes on everyone in the United States, relieving them of the misery caused by Carter's failed economic policies. I can understand Reagan not being someones favorite president, but I can't see how he could be the least favorite. Look at Andrew Jackson, who enacted the Indian removal Act. Andrew Jackson who said: "I have only two regrets: I didn't shoot Henry Clay and I didn't hang John C. Calhoun." Note: John C. Calhoun was his Vice President. Honestly, I don't get it. Could someone explain what policies of Reagan's trumps the suffering caused by Andrew Jackson's policies? |
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Edited by
littleredhen
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Tue 01/20/09 11:59 AM
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im going back to the not caring way of life you guys are to preachy except for you dbh1966 your nice I'm certainly not preachy. I am getting tired of watching people talk to thier imaginary friends & claim they are better because they believe in something that was made up to control them. It's like watching kids argue who's better,Santa or the Easter Bunny! GET REAL! You can't be "saved" no one gets out alive. If your God existed & cared about who was president, then he'd make sure his guy was in office. It's that simple. I am always tried to be politeon this matter but I am SICK of the religous crap! religion is all about control. Kill the infidel & be rewarded in the afterlife, accept slavery & be rewarded when you die. How stupid can people be? Start thinking for yourself! I have tried to keep my opinions on religion from the political forums out of courtesy, but since others refuse to do so I finnally decided to speak out. There are threads on abortion & religion & I avoid them , I should not have to avoid the political threads. |
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Spidercmb,
I do have a beef with Reagan. It cut the monies to the mental institutions. Many of the mentally ill became homeless because of that cut. |
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Favorite - Lincoln
Least - Oh there are several - Jackson, Arthur, Hoover |
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My favorite would probly be the Roosevelts and an equal tie at that. Even though I am right wing, I like them a lot.
Least favorite is a tie between Jackson and Carter. Jackson is damn near a war criminal for what he did before he became president. Carter got us hooked on foreign oil, kileed Oklahoma's economy with the windfall profits tax, an avid anti semite, and was a complete failure as a president. Bush wasnt great by any means, but he did try his best and stuck to his word. He helped Africa a great deal with the aids problem they have, sorry not problem, extreme crisis. True the economy has gone to **** but hey, thats everyone's fault damn near. I voted McCain but lets give Obama a chance. He won, and gets his shot and good luck. If he does good hurray. Seriously. But if he doesnt he epically failed when we needed him most. |
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Spidercmb, I do have a beef with Reagan. It cut the monies to the mental institutions. Many of the mentally ill became homeless because of that cut. Reagan has often been blamed for that. It was liberals and the ACLU who pushed to have patients de-institutionalized. The law was changed so that patients could only be involuntarily institutionalized if they were a danger to themselves or others. This resulted in 80% of the institutionalized patients being released. Reagan subsequently cut the budget for mental health by 25%, because the number of institutionalized patients had been dropped so dramatically (it takes more funds to keep a patient full time than to treat an outpatient). So Reagan did cut the funding...but only after others had gotten 80% of the mentally ill released from the hospitals. Reagan couldn't do either by himself, because the Governor/President has the right to propose a budget, but the lesgislature actually passes the budget. In the same way, the Governor/President can propose a bill, but the legislation has to pass the bill. The Lanterman, Petris, Short Act is what allowed the patients to voluntarily leave treatment, it was a liberal cause to free those people who were held and treated against their will. http://www.desertpacific.mirecc.va.gov/news/lps-reform.shtml#history |
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Spidercmb, I do have a beef with Reagan. It cut the monies to the mental institutions. Many of the mentally ill became homeless because of that cut. Reagan has often been blamed for that. It was liberals and the ACLU who pushed to have patients de-institutionalized. The law was changed so that patients could only be involuntarily institutionalized if they were a danger to themselves or others. This resulted in 80% of the institutionalized patients being released. Reagan subsequently cut the budget for mental health by 25%, because the number of institutionalized patients had been dropped so dramatically (it takes more funds to keep a patient full time than to treat an outpatient). So Reagan did cut the funding...but only after others had gotten 80% of the mentally ill released from the hospitals. Reagan couldn't do either by himself, because the Governor/President has the right to propose a budget, but the lesgislature actually passes the budget. In the same way, the Governor/President can propose a bill, but the legislation has to pass the bill. The Lanterman, Petris, Short Act is what allowed the patients to voluntarily leave treatment, it was a liberal cause to free those people who were held and treated against their will. http://www.desertpacific.mirecc.va.gov/news/lps-reform.shtml#history It was covered in a textbook in a mental health class that I took in college. They said it was Reagan. |
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Spidercmb, I do have a beef with Reagan. It cut the monies to the mental institutions. Many of the mentally ill became homeless because of that cut. Reagan has often been blamed for that. It was liberals and the ACLU who pushed to have patients de-institutionalized. The law was changed so that patients could only be involuntarily institutionalized if they were a danger to themselves or others. This resulted in 80% of the institutionalized patients being released. Reagan subsequently cut the budget for mental health by 25%, because the number of institutionalized patients had been dropped so dramatically (it takes more funds to keep a patient full time than to treat an outpatient). So Reagan did cut the funding...but only after others had gotten 80% of the mentally ill released from the hospitals. Reagan couldn't do either by himself, because the Governor/President has the right to propose a budget, but the lesgislature actually passes the budget. In the same way, the Governor/President can propose a bill, but the legislation has to pass the bill. The Lanterman, Petris, Short Act is what allowed the patients to voluntarily leave treatment, it was a liberal cause to free those people who were held and treated against their will. http://www.desertpacific.mirecc.va.gov/news/lps-reform.shtml#history It was covered in a textbook in a mental health class that I took in college. They said it was Reagan. Textbooks aren't perfect. As I've already pointed out it is factually true that Reagan reduced the funding for Mental Health...it is also factually true that Reagan signed a bill that cause the release of 80% of institutionalized patients. It's also factually true that freeing institutionalized Mental Health Patients was a liberal cause and Reagan signed into law what people were asking for. His budget cuts came after the patients were de-institutionalized. You can research it yourself, look it up on snopes or believe what you will. No skin off my nose any way you decide to go with this. |
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i think icecream will solve this problem [/quote count me in !!  I love that flavor!! |
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Well since Jesus isnt running the country and God gave us free will to make our own choices, maybe us mere mortals should stop minding other peoples business and tend to our own.
Anyway FDR was a good president .My least favorite was Jimmy Carter.to nice for politics. |
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I have no opinion on this subject.
All politicians are pieces of sh!t to me. ANARCHY!!!! |
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Spidercmb, I do have a beef with Reagan. It cut the monies to the mental institutions. Many of the mentally ill became homeless because of that cut. Article 1 Section 8...the Congress shall have the power to...oh !...foret it !!... 
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 just eat the icecream
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just eat the icecream gulp !!..with my hands ?...re-gulp !.. 
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N0!
With your....umm...never mind...you might experience shrinkage! /wink |
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Edited by
nogames39
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Tue 01/20/09 04:51 PM
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Most favorite:
Andrew Jackson He removed the Second Bank of the United States (Central Bank). Least favorite: FDR: New deal, gold confiscation, expansion of government, WWII. |
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