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Topic: Do you know
thinkingaboutit09 Joined Fri 01/02/09 Posts: 1370	Mon 01/19/09 07:17 PM
yeah its amazing that people dont understand but until you get to where you are in management i think it is hard for them to see the big picture. But small business owners get the shaft on this stuff too, its not a oneway street if anything its a oneway street going the other way!

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Mon 01/19/09 07:18 PM
rlynne- I agree with you to a point. But at what point do we take it upon ourselves to protect ourselves? I mean I don't expect you to know the law unless you're a lawyer. But maybe try and educate yourself enough to protect yourself. There's people I come across that still get paid less than min wage because they simply didn't know what the min wage was. then take it upon yourself to protect you and inform others who seem to be lacking said knowledge...sometimes the greatest aid for humanity is the passing of knowledge hence my post but I do try and educate people on it whenever I can. I have volunteered at schools to teach kids how to properly apply for jobs. What the interviewers can and can't ask them, where to look up info, that kind of thing. if you simply do not know it exists, you can't take it upon yourself....somebody has to inform you You make a very good point. However, I would think you would at least get that gut instinct when something doesn't sound or seem right. And people do know when they are being unfairly treated. They may not know their rights but usually when you're being treated wrong, you know it.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Mon 01/19/09 07:19 PM
yeah its amazing that people dont understand but until you get to where you are in management i think it is hard for them to see the big picture. But small business owners get the shaft on this stuff too, its not a oneway street if anything its a oneway street going the other way! agreed. There are people that take advantage, but not everyone does.

AngieH79 Joined Sun 09/07/08 Posts: 2494	Mon 01/19/09 08:19 PM
Yeah...MBA in HR. HOWEVER...I'm currently 'enjoying' sneaky, underhanded, insidious retalitation from a 'good old boys' network after rejecting an inappropriate advance from one of their members earlier in the year. Sometimes the law is tricky...although in the case you mentioned, not so. People really DO need to review the law, though! Protect yourself! AND DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT!!! THAT is the only way you can prove anything/make a case... In that case. . . I know, but do you know long a company has to respond to a complaint once it's been filed? I received my invitation to mediate before Christmas, but as far as I can tell, the company hasn't responded yet. I contacted the EEOC last week and they assured me that, with the holidays and weather, everything is on schedule. I'm affraid the company is stalling on purpose, they've been known to pull some very stupid tricks and I really don't want this dragging on any longer than it has to, it's bad enough that I lost my job because of it.

hellkitten54 Joined Sun 01/06/08 Posts: 11707	Mon 01/19/09 08:23 PM
Where I work, my boss will not fire anyone so they can't get unemployment. She will just start giving them less and less hours until they quit.

AngieH79 Joined Sun 09/07/08 Posts: 2494	Mon 01/19/09 08:28 PM
Where I work, my boss will not fire anyone so they can't get unemployment. She will just start giving them less and less hours until they quit. A reduction in hours is a valid reason for filing for unemployment.

lovemeifyoucan26 Joined Wed 08/13/08 Posts: 2830	Mon 01/19/09 08:29 PM


hellkitten54 Joined Sun 01/06/08 Posts: 11707	Mon 01/19/09 08:56 PM
Where I work, my boss will not fire anyone so they can't get unemployment. She will just start giving them less and less hours until they quit. A reduction in hours is a valid reason for filing for unemployment. Yeah I don't have any clue. Just passing along what I was told. It's obvious that the people she does this to has no clue either. But on her behalf, these people are worthless employees anyhow.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Tue 01/20/09 06:19 AM
Where I work, my boss will not fire anyone so they can't get unemployment. She will just start giving them less and less hours until they quit. A reduction in hours is a valid reason for filing for unemployment. Yeah I don't have any clue. Just passing along what I was told. It's obvious that the people she does this to has no clue either. But on her behalf, these people are worthless employees anyhow. Yes a reduction in hours is a valid reason for unemployment. But you're right, the people probably don't even know it.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Tue 01/20/09 06:23 AM
It's funny how the laws are written. For example, Illinois is an "at will" state. Which means, I don't have to promise you hours. I can fire you for any reason under the sun as long as it's not one of the protected rights (age, race, religion, etc) but ... no matter how crappy of an employee you are, I still have to pay unemployment when I fire you. I've fired people for so many things and almost always I have to pay unemployment. For example, if you're a housekeeper part of your job is changing the sheets on the bed. I have everyone sign a contract that they are responsible for all beds in the room. It tells you that upon catching you ONE time not changing sheets, you will be terminated. I've had to pay unemployment for firing a housekeeper that didn't change sheets. That pisses me off. You refuse to do part of your job and then I still have to pay you. That's just crap.

galendgirl Joined Sun 07/06/08 Posts: 24728	Tue 01/20/09 07:15 PM
Yeah...MBA in HR. HOWEVER...I'm currently 'enjoying' sneaky, underhanded, insidious retalitation from a 'good old boys' network after rejecting an inappropriate advance from one of their members earlier in the year. Sometimes the law is tricky...although in the case you mentioned, not so. People really DO need to review the law, though! Protect yourself! AND DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT!!! THAT is the only way you can prove anything/make a case... In that case. . . I know, but do you know long a company has to respond to a complaint once it's been filed? I received my invitation to mediate before Christmas, but as far as I can tell, the company hasn't responded yet. I contacted the EEOC last week and they assured me that, with the holidays and weather, everything is on schedule. I'm affraid the company is stalling on purpose, they've been known to pull some very stupid tricks and I really don't want this dragging on any longer than it has to, it's bad enough that I lost my job because of it. So unfair! Yeah...they can drag for quite a while and it's so STUPID because if you get a halfway decent hearing examiner, they are gonna look very bad. I wish it were better...the law only goes so far.

Totage Joined Sat 10/13/07 Posts: 24210	Tue 01/20/09 07:16 PM
your rights?? Your rights in the workplace? I interviewed a girl today for a housekeeping position that worked at another hotel before. She put on her application that she left there because she was pregnant. Upon questioning her, she innocently told me that her old boss told her to quit because she was a liability and afterall, how bad would she feel if she hurt her baby just for a job? Now of course, I only have her side of the story. However, so many times I have come across so many people that really do not know what their rights are in the workplace. By law they have to post your rights.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Tue 01/20/09 07:35 PM
your rights?? Your rights in the workplace? I interviewed a girl today for a housekeeping position that worked at another hotel before. She put on her application that she left there because she was pregnant. Upon questioning her, she innocently told me that her old boss told her to quit because she was a liability and afterall, how bad would she feel if she hurt her baby just for a job? Now of course, I only have her side of the story. However, so many times I have come across so many people that really do not know what their rights are in the workplace. By law they have to post your rights. They do post most of them, however few people actually READ the labor law posters

AngieH79 Joined Sun 09/07/08 Posts: 2494	Wed 01/21/09 01:53 PM
Yeah...MBA in HR. HOWEVER...I'm currently 'enjoying' sneaky, underhanded, insidious retalitation from a 'good old boys' network after rejecting an inappropriate advance from one of their members earlier in the year. Sometimes the law is tricky...although in the case you mentioned, not so. People really DO need to review the law, though! Protect yourself! AND DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT!!! THAT is the only way you can prove anything/make a case... In that case. . . I know, but do you know long a company has to respond to a complaint once it's been filed? I received my invitation to mediate before Christmas, but as far as I can tell, the company hasn't responded yet. I contacted the EEOC last week and they assured me that, with the holidays and weather, everything is on schedule. I'm affraid the company is stalling on purpose, they've been known to pull some very stupid tricks and I really don't want this dragging on any longer than it has to, it's bad enough that I lost my job because of it. So unfair! Yeah...they can drag for quite a while and it's so STUPID because if you get a halfway decent hearing examiner, they are gonna look very bad. I wish it were better...the law only goes so far. I wouldn't care so much if the economy was in better shape and I stood a chance of getting back to work any time soon, but Unemployment doesn't cover everything (which I had to fight for) and Savings will only last so long.