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Topic: Global warming is a myth, a wise man told me so
karmafury's photo
Mon 01/05/09 08:45 PM
Interesting program on the Discovery Channel.

Seems that Canada and the US may have to re-name their respective Glacier National Parks. Seems that the glaciers are disappearing. One big one is already non-existent.

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Mon 01/05/09 08:48 PM
that wise man wasn't so wise

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Mon 01/05/09 09:37 PM

Saving the planet is not about self-importance. It's about salvaging something that can never be replaced so that future generations can live reasonably comfortably. It's about taking personal responsibility because the people that pollute the planet and drain its resources refuse to, instead cashing in because they won't be around to see the planet go to waste anyway. I see nothing wrong with saving the planet.


This is an example.

So, which way do we do that? Spare us the big words. How do we save the planet?

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Mon 01/05/09 10:06 PM


Saving the planet is not about self-importance. It's about salvaging something that can never be replaced so that future generations can live reasonably comfortably. It's about taking personal responsibility because the people that pollute the planet and drain its resources refuse to, instead cashing in because they won't be around to see the planet go to waste anyway. I see nothing wrong with saving the planet.


This is an example.

So, which way do we do that? Spare us the big words. How do we save the planet?


I don't know; I'm no environmentalist. I merely agree with what they are doing.

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Mon 01/05/09 10:42 PM
Well, you either do follow them or not. What does agreeing with what they doing can mean?

If you do follow them, then you are in fact an enviromentalist.
If you don't follow, then you're not really in any kind of agreement, do you? You merely tolerate them in this case.

If you do follow and do not know how this supposed to work, then you can't really say that what they doing is good.

Am I wrong on this?

Can I say "The string theory makes sense", if I do not what does it state and how can it be proven?

I can, of course say, "the string theory does feel good", because it uses a word "string", and I am thinking of, g-string, for instance.

So, are you really saying that saving the planes feels good, cause it has "saving" and "planet"? In this case you really don't care how this is achieved, as long as the planet is saved. Well, the simplest way to save or conserve the planet is to reduce the human population to say 1 billion. How do you feel about that?

I am doing this to show, that just because they "sound good" these people aren't necessary good. They just might be quite evil.

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Mon 01/05/09 11:14 PM
The only way to save the planet is to take care of the environment around you. Theres many ways to do that like picking up garbage on the side of the road, or in parks, grassy areas, etc.

Saving the planet and cleaning the Earth is hard work. It means getting dirty. It means getting out there and changing a junkyard into a park. Which means moving junk, picking stuff up, planting things and taking care of what you planted.

I hate these neo-environmentalists who say "oh i donated 20 dollars to save the rain forest" and when i look around them i see trash, feral animals, and a destroyed eco system. Its great that they donated money to save something a world away, but they have to work locally too. rant

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Tue 01/06/09 04:24 PM
everyone has to play their part if they choose too. Change is difficult sometime but if we don't start now than we are not walking our talk.

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Tue 01/06/09 05:48 PM
I love to watch the new green channel and the science channel and national geographic and the history channel. All show us how we affect our planet in varying ways. But one doesn't need to watch these channels so see changes in the environment that are of concern locally.

It's not up to those of us that believe we affect our planet to educate those that don't believe it. There are too many sources of information every where. Some will take it seriously some won't.

So maybe Gore's group didn't get it absolutely right and maybe the global cooling people don't have it completely right. So what? Does that mean we ignore it completely. None of us here are scientists.

I can see how weather has affected my own area and things I can do to help out in my own small way. So I do, that's that. If people think I am weird. So what, they already think I am weird, but if changing simple things can make my life less stressful and more economical I am going to do it no matter what other's think of it, period. I have already made changes described on the green channel that have saved me in resources in my own home, so some one not believing in green, doesn't phase me at all.

I am fascinated by the things people have invented to make things that were once junk into things that are useful and recyclable, things that if left to pile up as our population swells would be a major problem. But some chose to invent processes to recycle things we normally would never have recycled. I am fascinated by the things people have come up with to help me make my home more efficient.

I am fascinated by what scientists have come up with in many areas of our world, to solve different issues from health to changes in climate and ways to plant that don't erode our soil. Geees there is so much going on and we're still debating whether it's even true?

Who cares if it's true or not, people are thinking, creating, inventing, and doing things that benefit all mankind in so many ways.., there will always be people that will take advantage of a need and use it to make things better and smarter. More power to them.

I would not want the future generations wondering why we sat around twiddling our thumbs when we could have done something constructive.

We don't have to believe in the end of the world as we know it, but we should be aware of our surroundings and leaving something to the future generations, that is if the Christian Right doesn't suceeed in bringing about the end times in the middle east first.

Many things are being done and have been done in the past 20 or more years that may finally be used to solve some of our current issues.

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Wed 01/07/09 10:20 AM
Global Warming is real.

The myth is that WE are the cause of it.

What cheek to think that we are that powerful.

Example...

Mount St. Helens put out more particulate matter and CO2 in a few days then all the polution emitted from a single city (San Franscisco) in 40YEARS.

Factor THAT into your delusions of the power of mankind.

Earth cycles really could care less what WE do...

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Wed 01/07/09 05:59 PM

Our city gets alot of money when they sell the cardboard,glass,and aluminum to these factories.How come the people never get a check for all this money they make.



Well if one thinks about it...

The reason is that it costs money to pay people to sort through the mountains of recyclable items. In Florida people were not very conscious about how they recycled and mixed everything up. So the workers still had to sort this junk along with things that were thrown in that were not recyclable. There is alot involved. So if a city takes on recycling they still have to pay people to sort it and that's not a fun job, but they still have to be paid.

When the city is paid for the glass aluminum etc, that money pays for the sorters and the expenses associated with recyling.

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Wed 01/07/09 06:55 PM
I recently heard a news report about how they were going to tax cows for contributing to global warming at 175 a pop.pigs too.

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Wed 01/07/09 07:29 PM

I recently heard a news report about how they were going to tax cows for contributing to global warming at 175 a pop.pigs too.


Funny. They are thinking to do the same with sheep.

Of course, we know that just as corporations do not pay taxes, neither do cows or farmers. We do. The ones paying before consumption.

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Wed 01/07/09 07:50 PM

I recently heard a news report about how they were going to tax cows for contributing to global warming at 175 a pop.pigs too.


I never heard that but i did see a documentary on a farmer that found a way to collect the methane gas? from all his cows and turned it into fuel, cutting his costs to almost nothing, ridding the farm of it's smell and I forget the other advantage, it was quite a solution that others are now copying.

So even if the cows are not the problem, it lead to a good idea that solved the farmers fuel costs and other things.

I am a believer that some times what we think is silly can turn to good use...

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