Give up the ghost man. (I mean Paul), hes history and his policies were archaic and stunk of the destruction of a misinformed phanatic.
He never convinced anyone except the cynical, pessimist 2% of the population. Heck he couldnt even convince enough Republicans to win the party noimination.
If you cant adapt to the good changes coming then at least get out of the way!

Ok Drivin, I am not sure we are reading the same things. Give me a link to use current views on homosexuality and women's rights, please, so I can have a look at what you are seeing.

I can't respond on all issues as I am just now trying to understand all the different idea from all sides and it's amazing how differently so many many groups think. It's dizzying and often very confusing when in terms I can't grasp. So please, send me links...

I personally would love to see a full list of government programs and what they actually do. The remove the ones I think are redundant, wasteful etc. Is there such a list online?

When these people say they want to remove this or that, whether it's programs or liberties, I don't always know what programs or liberties they are referring to.

IMO The other 98% want to keep their fantasy of what having wealthy and prosperity really means. He has a plan, it's called stop spending money, real money, we don't have, cut out the corruption, and start being fiscally responsible. Seems like a good plan to me.



PS War, Madison, Driven, I know, I know there's more to it than that!

"Fear not the path of truth, for the lack of people walking on it"---RFK

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/abortion/

Ron Paul recalling his personal observation of a late-term abortion performed by one of his instructors during his residency, Ron Paul stated, “It was pretty dramatic for me to see a two-and-a-half-pound baby taken out crying and breathing and put in a bucket.”

“The first thing we have to do is get the federal government out of it. We don’t need a federal abortion police."

At the same time, Ron Paul believes that the ninth and tenth amendments to the U.S. Constitution do not grant the federal government any authority to legalize or ban abortion.

Instead, it is up to the individual states to prohibit abortion.

Generally speaking if you want to know what Ron Paul thinks about a particular issue, look at the Constitution. If the federal government is not specifically given power over that issue, then the power belongs to the individual States and to the people.

If that last sentence sounds familiar it is because I paraphrased a section of the US Constitution.

He wants to disband the Federal reserve.

- Don't you? What are you, French? It is against the Constitution of the United States. That is why. I understand that if you were French, you may or may not care. But if you are American, how can you not care?


He wants to disband the Department of education. WTF!!!

-Same reason. This isn't what we have hired the government for.


He wants to disband almost every single Gov agency that exists.
-Well, again. Read the constitution. It lists exactly what government is hired to do, and as to anything not listed there, it is prohibited from doing.

Good changes coming... What do you mean? I haven't heard anything good lately. Like weather changes? Or what?

Boo2u has an interest in knowing how our federal tax dollars are spent. For all who are intersted:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/multidb.cgi?WAISdbName=2009_budget+All+2009+Budget+Publications&WAISqueryRule=%28%24WAISqueryString%29&WAISqueryString=National+income&WAIStemplate=multidb_omb002.html&submit2=Submit&WrapperTemplate=usbudget_wrapper.html&WAISmaxHits=50


Paste and copy the link above for a full list of where the ‘income’ of our National budget goes.

If the link is faulty, you can get to it by going to:

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/

In the scroll box highlight All FY2009 Budget Publications and in the search link type: National Income

This site offers a lot of information, make use of it, we paid for it ---- THIS IS EDUCATION of the drones (the common people)

An additional comment to my last post.

If you don't understand the some group or

someone is receiving Federal funds BY ALL MEANS

look further into it you cannot possibly walk

away from this knowledge with any real peace of

mind.

Paul is absolutely right, but like Boo, there are

some steps backwards I'm not willing to take.

From my point of view, this country is headed for

ruin, I will not go to that ruin with less

equality than those who will follow me there.

I read the link about Ron Paul's stance on abortion and wanting to leave it up to the states, that is always a cop out to me. But he is still too antiquated for me.

I know what abortion is, and I know the painful decisions one has to make. But it's my body and my decision. I am pro-choice and always will be, but I am not pro-abortion. Theres a difference to me. And I don't want the state bureaucracy making laws concerning my body or my private life for that matter and Paul is not some one I would vote for on either.

It's frankly insulting that Paul thinks we don't know the issues with abortion and the procedures, as women we damn well do know, and as women I won't give up my right to choose for him or the state or anyone.

You say "Paul wants to leave it to the states".
Then you say you're pro choice. And that's why you don't like Paul.

I don't get it. If you are pro-choice, why would you want the federales forcing you or anyone else to do anything?

If it is left to the states, there will always be a state where it is legal, i.e. "pro-choice". So if your state doesn't allow it, you just flip them a birdie and go pay a visit to some other state where there is freedom.

Your's is the strangest argument yet...

I don't want the state or the feds making that decision for me, sorry if I was unclear. And if one state has it and one doesn't, and I can't afford to travel to the one that does, that isn't helping me at all.

If I had had that sort of arrangement with the miscarriage I had I would have been dead by the time I reached that other state.

When I did have a miscarriage, the ambulance took me from one hospital to another, none of them would take me, finally I had to have a friend who is a lawyer demand that I be taken to a specific hospital. There they told him I was within one to three hours of dieing from extreme blood loss from being driven all over the place.

So no thanks to each state making their own decisions.

Nogame - Boo has a valid point but you aren't

understanding it. If you are the legal resident

of a state in which, abortion is illegal. You

may indeed seek abortion elsewhere, but the states

IF they comply with interstate commerce, are not

obliged to give you what you ask for. Further,

If you are found out, in your state of residence,

you can still be found guilty of murder.

There are many issues of equality that can best

be dealt with on the Federal level. If there is

any question in the public mind of U.S.

Constitutional equality, the issue SHOULD be

regarded at the Federal level. This holds true

for transgenders seeking sex reassignment,

same-sex marriage, and adoption as well as

abortion.

No, I understand.
Of course it will be soo nice if everything would be
guaranteed right there, on a federal level!

There are only two slight problems with that idea:

(oh and yeah, I am a staunch pro-choice dude, simply because
it ain't my body to decide.)

Problem Number 1:

If you don't want to leave and let live, meaning leaving
alone all those people who want to force everyone to their
morals, then you're going to have to fight them.
This means that you simply setting a less realistic goal to reach.
It is conceivable to win the minds of one or several states.
It is much less conceivable to win the whole country.

Problem Number 2:

This might be my personal problem, but I just don't
like anyone who forces their will onto others. That includes you.
So, to me if Texans want no abortion, fine, let them have no abortion. Live and let live.

As long as we have this federal monster, there is going to
be something forced on you too, I guarantee it.


To boo2u.

This is going to sound bad. I apologize.

But you were just stupid. You should have lived in
the state that allows abortions to begin with. Instead,
you have made a different choice.
Whatever else held you in the bad state,
seemed more important to you.

Well, then. If your opportunity to abort wasn't important
enough for you to make sure you are living in the state
that allows abortion, then your attitude should be:

"Oh well, I have almost died, but at least I live in (insert your state here)."

It is the fact that although many women say it is an important issue for them,
and yet they wouldn't move their ass to leave the fascist state they live in,
that allows for states that do not allow free choice to even exist economically.

If you, women were more active,
and instead of talking just move out,
then men would move out too,
and that sucker state would then think twice
about being a dictature.

Boy y'all sure like to beat a dead horse. There are no elections for at least 2 yrs. No Presidential elections for 4 more, and Ron Paul wont be running.
Utopia doesnt exist. This isnt Alice in Wonderland.
I see you are still hoping the Feds will help you defeat the majority rule concept in our constitution.
Proposition 8 passed, other States reinforced their laws, by majority, against homosexual marriage, and the Republicans lost the election for President.
Get over it!

Actually I bet someone that Paul wouldn't be elected.
So, we're on the same page about this.

Unfortunately, there is no one interesting to talk about
who did won or did lose except Ron Paul, so...

It's like this Fanta:

We know that most people won't ever get it. We're just talking
about a validity of his message.