sorry that link above came from my favorite site here

http://www.infowars.com/articles/2nd_amendment/va_tech_shooting_guns_bans_are_problem_not_solution.htm

I am quite curious as to why it took the authorities so long to secure
that situation.

perhaps there is more here than meets the eye.

isn't there always

" Heh. You completely misunderstand the fuction of the right to
firearms.
It isn't about "self defence"- it's about "national defence"- so that
the public could fight back in the case of a military coup."

So, a Glock in the hands of a resident alien furthered that purpose
exactly how?

Or, let's do a further thought experiment? Imagine PrattWorld, where
no-or-limited gun control would allow someone like the shooter to buy a
MAC-10 fully automatic machine pistol with 50 round clips. How much
worse would the carnage have been at VA Tech if this had been allowed to
happen?

-Kerry O.

I use to go to Va Tech alot because some of my friends from high school
went there. My twin daughters have friends that are freshmen there...all
are ok. My friend's daughter who is a junior also attends there but she
was in NYC with her fashion design class. They arrived in New York two
hours after the incident happened.

A lot less, Kerry- a LOT less. Don't forget the scenario. Psycho shoots
girl- guy tries to help girl- psycho shoots that guy. Psycho waits two
hours and then goes on killing spree. Psycho commits suicide before
getting caught.


Alternate reality- Psycho shoots girl. Guy shoots psycho. Game over.


Third alternative reality- with no firearms at all. Psycho plants bomb
using household cleaning products as a reactant. This monster was
planning this for *at least* two months, from evidence found.

Other alternative- psycho shoots girl, and then guy. Psycho goes on
rampage. Guy kicks open a classroom. Ten people open fire on psycho. May
not have been the first classroom. May not have been the second. But if
they had time enough to climb out a window- they had time enough to flip
a couple desks, lock and load, and defend themselves.

they do it because they are ****ing psycho

and the events that lead each serial or mass murder to their trigger
point vary, there is no definitive reason for the whole class of
perpetrators, each has their own ingredients that fill the powder keg
and their own triggers that set them off.

Adventure:

>> I am quite curious as to why it took the authorities so long to secure
that situation.

I don't know if you mean the time between the first shooting and the
second spree, or just the duration of the second spree.

VT has over 26,000 students. Its like a small town. Shootings like the
first incident happen occasionally in our society, and almost never are
followed by shooting sprees. My understanding was that the police
reasonably concluded the first shooting was a case similar to the more
common domestic violence situation - in which case, protecting people
directly involved would be the only (and realistic) concern. Nobody had
any reason to anticipate that second spree.

Would you expect the police to shut down an entire suburban neighborhood
because of domestic violence in one household? I know the situation is
different, being Tech is a single institution, but the situations are
sufficient similar to think about.

As for how long they took responding after the second shooting spree
started - I don't know. I went to Tech and its a very quiet, peaceful
place. One news article said that a SWAT team responded - if thats
true, I'm surprised that quiet, rural town would even have a SWAT team.

"A lot less, Kerry- a LOT less. Don't forget the scenario. Psycho
shoots
girl- guy tries to help girl- psycho shoots that guy. Psycho waits two
hours and then goes on killing spree. Psycho commits suicide before
getting caught.


Alternate reality- Psycho shoots girl. Guy shoots psycho. Game over.


Third alternative reality- with no firearms at all. Psycho plants bomb
using household cleaning products as a reactant. This monster was
planning this for *at least* two months, from evidence found."


Yanno, as much as we'd like it to be, the world doesn't work like that,
with James Bond villains acting so predictably that The Good Guys can
pick them off like bears at in a veritable shooting gallery.

The gunman always has the element of surprise on his side, something
against which even trained police officer struggle. What's to prevent
the gunman from being cognizant that there are armed people around him
and picking them off first? Are you going to tell me that the Good Guys
are always going to get 'the drop' on the perp?

The 'element of surprise' scenario will always be the flaw in any such
argument.

-Kerry O.

I find it hard to believe that he shot himself when he had body armor
on. That protects you from bein shot, so if he was goin to shoot
himself, why put on the body armor? I believe (may be true, may not)
that it's just like the high school kids that shot up their schools,
dude probably got made fun of because he was oriental and a loner. I
think he just lashed out and got them back, and didn't care who was in
the way. I went to school in Sacramento, where school shootings are not
infrequent, just not talked about much. I remember when one dude at our
school got shot and killed durin a drug robbery, and no news coverage
came out about it. There's a lot of kids who actually think about doin
sh*t like this, and that's pretty freakin crazy, cuz folks know now if
they keep pushin and bullyin, this is what will eventually happen. If we
treat everyone we come across with respect and compassion, maybe sh*t
like this wouldn't have to happen.


OH! I also just thought about this......... this guy was freakin SMART!!
Why do you think he shot only two people in the first shootings?
Distraction. With everyone payin attention to that side of the campus,
and the lack of notification by university officials, he had ample time
to go to the other side and do whatever the hell he wanted. Damn.

What really bothers me is the dang media reiterating over and over how
this is the biggest school mass shooting in the history of America. All
I can see is the bubble over another psycho and/or copycat's head saying
"Oh yeah? I'll top that figure"!

What really bothers me is the dang media reiterating over and over how
this is the biggest school mass shooting in the history of America. All
I can see is the bubble over another psycho and/or copycat's head saying
"Oh yeah? I'll top that figure"!

I hear ya there. What's even worse, is there ARE kids out there that are
already thinkin about it, and all the media wants to do is glorify it,
and get those kinda kids pumped up. Give it about 2 or 3 months when
security goes back down, and some dumbass will top it.

Actually, serial killers, once the fly off the handle, are surprisingly
predictable. The body armor (which they've yet to confirm) isn't
unusual, either. And in the case of this style of killer, they almost
always attempt suicide at the end.

And the girl he shot first, at least, appears to be the one "personal"
killing of the group. He would have went after her with a knife if he
didn't have another option. There are many hundreds of ways to kill
another human being. And the internet lists almost all of them. If he
didn't have on type of mass murder, he'd have found another. People like
this always do.

Wow. Please excuse the typos. I'm tired.

That's cool, good points.

I live in Virginia and know many people who went to VA Tech and have
many friends who have children there. It was a very stressful day when
we heard the news; I prayed for everyone there. Please continue to pray
for the victims and their families.

lets see

front page of almost every newspaper if not every

lead story in tv news

front page on web news pages

many pictures of his image brodcast everywhere

will be compared forever as to any other tragedy of this sort

and people wonder wht he did it

interesting

he we now live forever and probaply
have a movie made about him

his actions no matter how deplorable

are glorified in the pages of history

just because it is negative glorification doesn't matter
it is glorification just the same

kinda like bad attention is better than no attention

and some still ask why he did it

why the body armor if indeed he had body armor
he had an agenda to be #1 killer and did not
want taken down till he accomplished it

but hey what do i know