So, looks like there are a few people out there who are willing to support and defend the Constitution and the rule of law.

I am fairly sure nothing will come of it but there was some interesting news issued by the Senate Armed Services Committee that states there is a strong case for prosecution of some administration officials related to the use of torture.

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Most Americans have long known that the horrors of Abu Ghraib were not the work of a few low-ranking sociopaths. All but President George W. Bush's most unquestioning supporters recognized the chain of unprincipled decisions that led to the abuse, torture and death in prisons run by the American military and intelligence services.

Now, a bipartisan report by the Senate Armed Services Committee has made what amounts to a strong case for bringing criminal charges against former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld; his legal counsel, William Haynes; and potentially other top officials, including the former White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and David Addington, Vice President **** Cheney's former chief of staff.

The report shows how actions by these men "led directly" to what happened at Abu Ghraib, in Afghanistan, in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and in secret CIA prisons.

It said these top officials, charged with defending the Constitution and America's standing in the world, methodically introduced interrogation practices based on illegal tortures devised by Chinese agents during the Korean War. Until the Bush administration, their only use in the United States was to train soldiers to resist what might be done to them if they were captured by a lawless enemy.

The officials then issued legally and morally bankrupt documents to justify their actions, starting with a presidential order saying that the Geneva Conventions did not apply to prisoners of the "war on terror" - the first time any democratic nation had unilaterally reinterpreted the conventions.

Full article at http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/18/opinion/edtorture.php?page=1

Unfortunately for you, and the people writing this silly nonsense the Geneva Conventions protect UNIFORMED combatants from torture. Which is why the old USSR was not violating the Geneva Conventions when they would torture captured spy's.

Well after watching terrorist cut the heads off of contractors and blowing themselves up killing everyone all around them,I am not going to feel the least bit sorry for them no matter what happens to them.I think if a terrorist is caught shooting at you then he should be tied to a pole strapped with explosives and blown to tiny bits.

Also the Geneva conventions only applies to a real Army(that the United nations recognizes)with people wearing a military uniform.It does not apply to a bunch of rag tag people with AK-47s and a pipe bomb.If that was the case we could say the entire Middle east is one big Army.I also do not think we should be held accountable to the Geneva conventions when our enemy could care less about it.

So...are you saying that when someone behaves badly, that we are supposed to lower ourselves to that same behavior?

Yes, that is exactly what he is saying.
He'd rather humanity devolves instead of evolving

I am not saying we need to act like a bunch of thugs with no morals at all.What I am saying is that this is a enemy that will stop at nothing and is only hell bent on destroying himself and as many people as he can take along.If they want to die a martyr's death(which is their highest honor)I don't see why we can't give it to them.If they want to surrender then I think we should process them accordingly and do the Geneva conventions thing.But if they want to go out in a blaze of glory so be it.The laws for the Army and Marines are getting so ridicules that you practically have to wait until you are in a life or death situation until you can fire back.The ACLU wants to ship all the terrorist from overseas here to have tax payer lawyers represent them!This kind of thinking is absurd.

You said, "I think if a terrorist is caught shooting at you then he should be tied to a pole strapped with explosives and blown to tiny bits."

Exactly he was trying to kill you.He was shooting at you.He wanted to kill you.He can die a martyrs death.If on the other hand you were just breaking down doors and you found guns and bombs in someone's house then he should be arrested and thrown in jail.See the difference?

I also feel the same way about justice in America.If someone is caught on tape,with eyewitness,and DNA matching what is the point of keeping them on death row for 20 plus years.I say send them to the gas chamber right after court.The people who executed Sadamm hussien had the right idea!

I look at the insurgency like this and plz dont take it as me approving of their actions or Im some kind of traiter!!!! What would happen if the US was invaded and our Arm Forces defeated. Would the rest of America throw in the towel and not fight? Yes there are terrorist there, most brought in from other countries after we invaded. IMO Saddam probably viewed the different groups as a threat to his dictatorship!

They do it to us, so we should lower ourselves and do it to them. Because they 'deserve it'?

They do it to us, so we should also engage in the worst kinds of behavior with no thought to how that will affect the people performing the behaviors in the long run. Creating more monsters.

Since the Geneva Convention is only to protect 'uniformed' military personnel, it is okay to engage in torture if the opposing forces are not part of a government sanctioned military?

It that is true, then Hitler's torture of civilians would constitute as legal rather than war crimes. But given the number of War Criminal trials we had over that, I think there is room to argue that it is not just for 'uniformed' military personnel.

Which leads me to my next point, because they do it to us, that means it is okay for us to us to set up off-soil prisons to bypass US laws about the treatment of prisoners so we can engage in torture and there-by exhibit characteristics of some of the people throughout history that most human beings recognize as true monsters?

Ultimately, anyone who says torture is acceptable is lining him or herself up with Hitler in my book.