haaaa- Now that's funny and serious. perfect.

No time does not exist, it took me many years to discover this ;) Modesty is a virtue - *STRANGE* <-------- ^^^^^^^

well according to christianity, time does not really exist, god created it because our simple minds couldnt grasp the concept of eternity!!

Hmmmm could you get me that verse from the bible?

nope haha don no where its at, ill look an check it out though

Judging by the smell of some things that have sat for some time, I would say yes. One may say the presence of air makes the food rot, however, without time added to the equasion, the food would not rot. That fact alone certaintly proves that time does in fact exsist.

Yes time exists, with or without observers. Defining such a concept is difficult because its experienced subjectively, a few math equations show it is not uniform and is itself shaped and distorted by other forces in the universe. I'ts actually a very good question, lemme get back to you on it.

That doesn't prove that time exists. It just proves that it seems to exist. It is not always the simplest answer that is the correct one. Reality as a whole is very complex. Time seems to flow linearly only because of the direction we are looking. If we turned our heads, (really turned them) we'd be able to look either way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime

Does space exist? For any of you time is an illusion proponents out there, does space exist?

Can you move around or is that also an illusion?

Now you are on to something.

Does space exist in your dreams or does your mind create the illusion of it?

Its all just quantum entanglement, light, sound, reflection, energy, waves... including matter.

It is a dream-like mind created holographic reality.

Just like your dreams. Does time and space exist in your dreams?

That made little sence. Do you feel you made a piont?

Is anything really provable? No axiom states that the simpliest awnser is the correct one. You stae time seems to flow linearly? How si it you observe this? Or is that just a metaphore?
If we turned our heads, (really turned them) we'd be able to look either way. <---- This is the only thing you claimed that seems to be supported by evidence, however its self-evident. Reality is not complex it just is, how we filter it can be complex, youre only stating your inability to grasp reality a whole, no one would disagree with this, especially on your behalf. Although I enjoy picking apart illl thought out ideas with no supporting points, I wonder is it worth the time?

We can't see forward or backwards through time, we can only see the present. Time is a linear dimension in space-time of which we are only able to perceive our current position. The universe is like a giant chain of pearls with each pearl being a Planck time image of the universe. Think of it as frames in a movie. Unlike the standard 30 fps of a movie, there would be 1.855094832e+43 fps.

This is so totally not true Spider.

Scientists can look back in time when they look through their telescopes and witness a super nova which because of the speed of light actually happened many light years ago. And yet they are just now witnessing it. Therefore they are indeed looking back in time.

I disagree, it sounds like being informed of a distant event by telephone.

No, because space-time is one entity. So what you see through a telescope is the light from a distant event. The light itself is actually going into the telescope. So whatever the observer sees in the telescope is in the past. The observer is seeing the past (in the present), but not looking backwards in time.

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If you watch a home movie from the 1950's, you aren't seeing the past, you are seeing an image of the past. It's the same with your example. They aren't seeing the past, they are seeing the light from the past. The scientist cannot adjust his/her telescope to see any point in the past, they can only see the light that has just reached the earth as he/she looks through the telescope.

They are not looking back in time in so much as it really is that time now. Like looking through a time portal would be actually seeing that epoch.

The light is like a mold, if someone took a mold of my body at birth then a mold every interval of growth then looking through a telescope would be like looking back at a certain section of these molds. You are not looking back at the time the mold was taken, you are looking at the impression that was made at that time.

You get a record, but don't get a time machine.

Light when emitted, or reflected makes a mold of what it is emitted by or reflected from ect.

First, space-time is not an "entity."

So you are seeing the light that has just reached the earth as you look through the telescope.

In this sense, everything you see with your eyes is "just seeing the light" as it reaches your eyes. It just gets there a lot quicker.

Everything you see is an image if I accept your explanation. It is a three dimensional holographic image of light and sound which is just vibrations. Face it, we are living in a holographic reality of light and sound.

The fact that our reality may be composed of fewer or greater than 3D has no bearing on the concept of the topic at hand that I can tell.

A hologram is only an 2d image that appears to be 3d, how this changes the nature of light, or time, or really anything is a mystery to me.

Perhaps its just not clear why you even mentioned this . . .


And while space may not be an entity, it certainly is a thing.

Entity


The universe has it's own distinct existence, therefore it is an entity.

I doubt I ever make valid points. I'm just trying to bring a different viewpoint to the conversation. Trying to help people think about things.