Topic: Emotional and physical health in magick
Abracadabra's photo
Fri 12/19/08 03:15 PM

James, how long have you been a spiritual seeker? There is something called the Dark Night of the Soul that every spiritual seeker eventually goes through. You might google it.


That's an interesting question Ruth, and I honestly don't know the answer because I'm not sure of the definition of what it mean to be a 'spiritual seeker' myself.

I always felt that I was spiritual person. It's more like I'm losing something that I had, rather than trying to seek soemething that I didn't.

Owl look into the book.

One thing for sure is that I'm not troubled by nightmares or anything like that. It's not like I'm fretting about anything.

I can even accept atheism truly.

I guess I was just hoping for something more romantic than that.

Spirituality is a romantic concept.

I just wanna be a romantic is all.

flowers




Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/19/08 03:20 PM
It's not a book. It's a condition. And, you are the type of person who would have it happen to them. I have had it happen to me. A couple of times.

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 12/19/08 03:37 PM

It's not a book. It's a condition. And, you are the type of person who would have it happen to them. I have had it happen to me. A couple of times.


Ok, I see this now.

I just Googled it and read about it.

Perhaps this is a condition I need to deal with. I've just recently run across this very same concept being discussed on Penczak's forums, although they didn't refer to it as the "Dark Night of the Soul".

It is true that I have never felt abandon or seperate from God in my entire life.

By that I simply mean that there was never in my time when I was a true atheist. At all times I felt connected with the spirit.

In fact, I still do feel intuitively connected even though intellectually my brain is saying, "It's absurd".

laugh

So maybe I just need to convince my brain.

Well, I'm being heavily drawn into shamanism. In fact, just last night I ordered some books on it and several shamanic journeying CDs.

My interest in shamanism is profound right now. And it's not an intellectual interest, but rather I'm being intuitively drawn to it.

In fact, I felt that way when I ordered those books and CDs. My brain was almost saying, "Why are you ordering this stuff?"

By my intuition was just doing it.

I think I'm clearly on a path of following my intuition over my brain at this point.

So maybe things are just as they need to be.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/19/08 03:38 PM
I have not googled it yet but is it just what it sounds like? Kind of a rut spiritually? Or more like passing from one belief to another?

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Fri 12/19/08 03:40 PM
In fact, I felt that way when I ordered those books and CDs. My brain was almost saying, "Why are you ordering this stuff?"


I have a personality in side of me that does the same thing. She tells me, "this is a bunch of mumbo jumbo crap!" She tells me "You are such an idiot."

I mentally punch her out and tell her to shut up I am in charge here. She is my indwelling skeptic.

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Fri 12/19/08 03:41 PM

No more procrastination. I'm working on the portrait. Here is a link to my studio web cam.


http://www.springfieldcolorado.com/live-art/


Wow Jeannie, I didn't know you were such a great artist. I want to go to a store and buy a canvas a thousand oil tubes and some brushes and start right away just by looking at your art work.

Your information is great to. I must have spend a hour reading your information. I hope you don't mind me butting into your private website, but it is some really great stuff.

I like the holographic article also. Isn't our minds astonishing. I mean we can think up of so many possibilities of how everything could be or is in reality in our own imagination.

Well in the long run I like your paintings. Very superb work. I mean I love art to and even draw with pencil before coloring on photoshop, but it is nothing compared to oil painting that is for sure.

Well thank you for the entertainment for today. Now I will go drink some hot cocoa and watch a old turner classic 30's movie.


Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/19/08 03:44 PM


So maybe things are just as they need to be.


they are. Don't fight it. And, I don't believe there is anything you can do about it anyway if it is a Dark Night or whatever you want to call it. It will pass.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/19/08 03:45 PM

I have not googled it yet but is it just what it sounds like? Kind of a rut spiritually? Or more like passing from one belief to another?


More like a spiritual dryness. A doubting of everything you believed and a depressive state.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/19/08 03:47 PM


No more procrastination. I'm working on the portrait. Here is a link to my studio web cam.


http://www.springfieldcolorado.com/live-art/


Wow Jeannie, I didn't know you were such a great artist. I want to go to a store and buy a canvas a thousand oil tubes and some brushes and start right away just by looking at your art work.

Your information is great to. I must have spend a hour reading your information. I hope you don't mind me butting into your private website, but it is some really great stuff.

I like the holographic article also. Isn't our minds astonishing. I mean we can think up of so many possibilities of how everything could be or is in reality in our own imagination.

Well in the long run I like your paintings. Very superb work. I mean I love art to and even draw with pencil before coloring on photoshop, but it is nothing compared to oil painting that is for sure.

Well thank you for the entertainment for today. Now I will go drink some hot cocoa and watch a old turner classic 30's movie.




I know. Isn't her website totally awesome?

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Fri 12/19/08 03:51 PM


No more procrastination. I'm working on the portrait. Here is a link to my studio web cam.


http://www.springfieldcolorado.com/live-art/


Wow Jeannie, I didn't know you were such a great artist. I want to go to a store and buy a canvas a thousand oil tubes and some brushes and start right away just by looking at your art work.

Your information is great to. I must have spend a hour reading your information. I hope you don't mind me butting into your private website, but it is some really great stuff.

I like the holographic article also. Isn't our minds astonishing. I mean we can think up of so many possibilities of how everything could be or is in reality in our own imagination.

Well in the long run I like your paintings. Very superb work. I mean I love art to and even draw with pencil before coloring on photoshop, but it is nothing compared to oil painting that is for sure.

Well thank you for the entertainment for today. Now I will go drink some hot cocoa and watch a old turner classic 30's movie.



I have a holographic article? I forgot about it. Where did you find that?

Thanks for dropping by my web site. That is like having a visitor inside my very home.

Especially my web cam page. That is my bedroom/art studio.
I am working there now.




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Fri 12/19/08 03:53 PM
I swear the picture Jeannie is drawing looks like my father when he was young. Scary to tell you the truthlaugh

Well not my real father anyway. I don't know who they are. I lived most of my childhood years in a orphanage, but at age 15 I was allowed to live with some folks who I call my parents.laugh


But the oil painting Jeannie is doing at the moment has similiar face features as him.

Very good work. Bravo Jeannie:smile:


Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/19/08 04:02 PM


I have not googled it yet but is it just what it sounds like? Kind of a rut spiritually? Or more like passing from one belief to another?


More like a spiritual dryness. A doubting of everything you believed and a depressive state.


Hmm. I guess Im safe in that respect. Ive really never invested myself into one belief system. You might refer to that as "Agnostic" or in my case, just not giving a rat's ass about it. I just dont feel the need to worry until such a time as Im dead and even then, I might not care all that much because its out of my hands. happy

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Fri 12/19/08 04:14 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 12/19/08 04:15 PM

I swear the picture Jeannie is drawing looks like my father when he was young. Scary to tell you the truthlaugh

Well not my real father anyway. I don't know who they are. I lived most of my childhood years in a orphanage, but at age 15 I was allowed to live with some folks who I call my parents.laugh


But the oil painting Jeannie is doing at the moment has similiar face features as him.

Very good work. Bravo Jeannie:smile:



Thanks smiles, you are so kind. I am in a real crunch to finish this by Christmas.... 6 days away.. eeeek. I am hoping it goes well. Sometimes they do... sometimes I wish I never took the job.




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Fri 12/19/08 04:18 PM
Edited by smiless on Fri 12/19/08 04:19 PM


I swear the picture Jeannie is drawing looks like my father when he was young. Scary to tell you the truthlaugh

Well not my real father anyway. I don't know who they are. I lived most of my childhood years in a orphanage, but at age 15 I was allowed to live with some folks who I call my parents.laugh


But the oil painting Jeannie is doing at the moment has similiar face features as him.

Very good work. Bravo Jeannie:smile:



Thanks smiles, you are so kind. I am in crunch to finish this by Christmas.... 6 days away.. eeeek.




Now is that possible to do a oil painting in such a short period of time? I guess it is.

(-----------Bob Ross is amazing to watch on television when they show it occassionally. He draws his land scenery in a hours time, but again that is land scenery and not a portrait where you need alot of detail, shading,and description at its finest.

I am starting to understand how to get colors to work for me. It is a slow process. I am good at drawing things, but coloring is difficult.

Practice, practice, practice that is really all anyone can say in the long run.

Okay let me stop chatting so much. I am surprised my wife still is with me. I can talk anyone under the tablelaugh

Going to get some cognac to settle down:smile:


Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/19/08 04:18 PM



I have not googled it yet but is it just what it sounds like? Kind of a rut spiritually? Or more like passing from one belief to another?


More like a spiritual dryness. A doubting of everything you believed and a depressive state.


Hmm. I guess Im safe in that respect. Ive really never invested myself into one belief system. You might refer to that as "Agnostic" or in my case, just not giving a rat's ass about it. I just dont feel the need to worry until such a time as Im dead and even then, I might not care all that much because its out of my hands. happy


It's not so much about one belief system as it is.........it's hard to describe. You're not doubting a religion so much as you feel you have lost your connection to God. It's like one minute you were standing in the most beautiful, warm, perfect room. And, the next minute the lights go out and it's pitch black and not so warm. You have lost your way. That may not be the best description of it and I know everyone will go through something a little different.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/19/08 04:24 PM
Ive seen Bob Ross Smiless! Hes funny! And fast! laugh

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Fri 12/19/08 04:25 PM
Well if I lived up there in Pennsylvania I would knock on his door with a case of soda (since he doesn't drink any beer) and a deck of cards and play some cards to brighten his spirits.

But of course I can imagine that he would rather have Ruth, Jeannie, or Krimsa come over then melaugh

I think James has discovered new doors in his life and for the first time he sees a whole new branch of history that draws his attention to deeper thinking and spirituality. Shamanism, witchcraft, the history of it, the magic, the ups and downs of it, and so forth.

I am sure there will be many more emotions in the future with his studies. I am sure everyones support on his journey is highly appreciated.

If anything he has the sites jester always trying to cheer him up.

smilessdrinker

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Fri 12/19/08 04:27 PM

Ive seen Bob Ross Smiless! Hes funny! And fast! laugh


You seen him live! Wow you are lucky.

I only watched him on television and I fascinate myself how he does this. A true artist and became a millionare.

Amazing when you can watch someone with so much passion, skill, and happiness create beautiful sceneries of our beloved Earth.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/19/08 04:28 PM
I think Abra will be okay, hes just "phasing" right now. Like the moon. happy

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/19/08 04:30 PM


Ive seen Bob Ross Smiless! Hes funny! And fast! laugh


You seen him live! Wow you are lucky.

I only watched him on television and I fascinate myself how he does this. A true artist and became a millionare.

Amazing when you can watch someone with so much passion, skill, and happiness create beautiful sceneries of our beloved Earth.


No no just on a show on PBS (Public Broadcast) he has like a 30 minute show and he just paint landscapes. Ive only seen it a few times and he paints very quickly.