Topic: Drugs
mcattygarnett's photo
Mon 12/08/08 07:00 PM




Have you ever been addicted to any kind of drugs? If so what made you stop and save your life?

I have never done drugs, but I just lost a good friend of mine to his drug addiction.:cry: sad :cry: sad


I hit a bottom...then decided to quit. For some people bottom happens to be death.


But why do they have to go that far? I am sorry I just dont understand. This is the third person that I have been close to that has done this, and it never gets easier.flowerforyou



I am glad that you quit as well and I hope that you are living a full and happy life.flowerforyou


I work at a drug alcohol treatment center and see this all the time. It is very hard to explain to someone who is not an addict. Think of it like an allergy, say poison ivy once you start scratching you can't stop.


I dont think that anyone that had never done drugs can fully understand what you are talking about.

livelife68's photo
Mon 12/08/08 07:03 PM





Have you ever been addicted to any kind of drugs? If so what made you stop and save your life?

I have never done drugs, but I just lost a good friend of mine to his drug addiction.:cry: sad :cry: sad


I hit a bottom...then decided to quit. For some people bottom happens to be death.


But why do they have to go that far? I am sorry I just dont understand. This is the third person that I have been close to that has done this, and it never gets easier.flowerforyou



I am glad that you quit as well and I hope that you are living a full and happy life.flowerforyou


I work at a drug alcohol treatment center and see this all the time. It is very hard to explain to someone who is not an addict. Think of it like an allergy, say poison ivy once you start scratching you can't stop.


I dont think that anyone that had never done drugs can fully understand what you are talking about.


That's one reason why AA and NA works so well. We understand each other.

mcattygarnett's photo
Mon 12/08/08 07:07 PM






Have you ever been addicted to any kind of drugs? If so what made you stop and save your life?

I have never done drugs, but I just lost a good friend of mine to his drug addiction.:cry: sad :cry: sad


I hit a bottom...then decided to quit. For some people bottom happens to be death.


But why do they have to go that far? I am sorry I just dont understand. This is the third person that I have been close to that has done this, and it never gets easier.flowerforyou



I am glad that you quit as well and I hope that you are living a full and happy life.flowerforyou


I work at a drug alcohol treatment center and see this all the time. It is very hard to explain to someone who is not an addict. Think of it like an allergy, say poison ivy once you start scratching you can't stop.


I dont think that anyone that had never done drugs can fully understand what you are talking about.


That's one reason why AA and NA works so well. We understand each other.


so true

Winx's photo
Mon 12/08/08 07:46 PM



Have you ever been addicted to any kind of drugs? If so what made you stop and save your life?

I have never done drugs, but I just lost a good friend of mine to his drug addiction.:cry: sad :cry: sad


I hit a bottom...then decided to quit. For some people bottom happens to be death.


But why do they have to go that far? I am sorry I just dont understand. This is the third person that I have been close to that has done this, and it never gets easier.flowerforyou

I am glad that you quit as well and I hope that you are living a full and happy life.flowerforyou


Drugs change the wiring in the brain. The brain then thinks it needs the drugs or they can't survive. Their brain hides the truth from them.

no photo
Mon 12/08/08 07:51 PM
My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.


no photo
Mon 12/08/08 07:55 PM




Have you ever been addicted to any kind of drugs? If so what made you stop and save your life?

I have never done drugs, but I just lost a good friend of mine to his drug addiction.:cry: sad :cry: sad


I hit a bottom...then decided to quit. For some people bottom happens to be death.


But why do they have to go that far? I am sorry I just dont understand. This is the third person that I have been close to that has done this, and it never gets easier.flowerforyou

I am glad that you quit as well and I hope that you are living a full and happy life.flowerforyou


Drugs change the wiring in the brain. The brain then thinks it needs the drugs or they can't survive. Their brain hides the truth from them.


it's not really even the drug that causes the high. It's the neurotransmitters naturally released from the brain. Acetylcholine, epinephrine/adrenaline, dopamine, Serotonin and sh*t

if you crush your hand with a hammer, your brain will release endorphin to dull the pain. If you take heroin it causes a zillion times more endorphin to be released


mcattygarnett's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:13 PM

My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.

Winx's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:21 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 12/08/08 08:56 PM





Have you ever been addicted to any kind of drugs? If so what made you stop and save your life?

I have never done drugs, but I just lost a good friend of mine to his drug addiction.:cry: sad :cry: sad


I hit a bottom...then decided to quit. For some people bottom happens to be death.


But why do they have to go that far? I am sorry I just dont understand. This is the third person that I have been close to that has done this, and it never gets easier.flowerforyou

I am glad that you quit as well and I hope that you are living a full and happy life.flowerforyou


Drugs change the wiring in the brain. The brain then thinks it needs the drugs or they can't survive. Their brain hides the truth from them.


it's not really even the drug that causes the high. It's the neurotransmitters naturally released from the brain. Acetylcholine, epinephrine/adrenaline, dopamine, Serotonin and sh*t

if you crush your hand with a hammer, your brain will release endorphin to dull the pain. If you take heroin it causes a zillion times more endorphin to be released




What you said is true. In addition to that:

It does affect the wiring when it changes the way the neurons in the brain communicate via the synapses. It involves the neurotransmitters and electrical impulses. The neurons release the dopamine. Long term use of crack reduces the amount of of dopamine receptors in the brain, btw.

The brain reuses/recycles the dopamine over and over again. When a person smokes crack, the dopamine is totally used up (sucked dry) and like you said, that's the high. Big problem -- it takes a long while to remake that dopamine. The addict can no longer feel pleasure until they get high again.

Then the addict can no longer feel normal without the drug.
They can no longer function without it. They're hooked.



Winx's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:22 PM


My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.


We also miss them when they are alive and using drugs. They are not themselves anymore. It's like an invasion of the body snatchers took over their body and their body is only the shell of whom they are.flowerforyou

no photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:27 PM



My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.


We also miss them when they are alive and using drugs. They are not themselves anymore. It's like an invasion of the body snatchers took over their body and their body is only the shell of whom they are.flowerforyou


Winx.flowerforyou
More than one person I've known has refered to addiction as the living death.

mcattygarnett's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:28 PM



My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.


We also miss them when they are alive and using drugs. They are not themselves anymore. It's like an invasion of the body snatchers took over their body and their body is only the shell of whom they are.flowerforyou


Your right, and we do get a few encounters with the person that they use to be when they are not on drugs. It is a no win situation either way. Because the sober, kind and loving person isnt around that long. flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:29 PM




My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.


We also miss them when they are alive and using drugs. They are not themselves anymore. It's like an invasion of the body snatchers took over their body and their body is only the shell of whom they are.flowerforyou


Winx.flowerforyou
More than one person I've known has refered to addiction as the living death.



The person that I was close to that was using once said this when he was actively using, "He wouldn't wish it on his worse enemy."

mcattygarnett's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:34 PM





My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.


We also miss them when they are alive and using drugs. They are not themselves anymore. It's like an invasion of the body snatchers took over their body and their body is only the shell of whom they are.flowerforyou


Winx.flowerforyou
More than one person I've known has refered to addiction as the living death.



The person that I was close to that was using once said this when he was actively using, "He wouldn't wish it on his worse enemy."


I know a couple of people that have said the same thing.

Winx's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:48 PM




My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.


We also miss them when they are alive and using drugs. They are not themselves anymore. It's like an invasion of the body snatchers took over their body and their body is only the shell of whom they are.flowerforyou


Your right, and we do get a few encounters with the person that they use to be when they are not on drugs. It is a no win situation either way. Because the sober, kind and loving person isnt around that long. flowerforyou


That can break a person's heart. It's like you lost your best friend and they're still there physically.flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:48 PM






My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.


We also miss them when they are alive and using drugs. They are not themselves anymore. It's like an invasion of the body snatchers took over their body and their body is only the shell of whom they are.flowerforyou


Winx.flowerforyou
More than one person I've known has refered to addiction as the living death.



The person that I was close to that was using once said this when he was actively using, "He wouldn't wish it on his worse enemy."


I know a couple of people that have said the same thing.


They're living in a private hell.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:49 PM

Nope. I'm addicted to books and computer games. I can't go into a bookstore. I may come out with 50$ in paperbacks. I can spend hours on the computer and totally ignore the stuff I ought to be going. I played a computer game non-stop for over 24 hours once. Well, stopped long enough for bathroom breaks.


HAH!!! My brother was always quacking at me about spending an hour in the Barnes and Noble store whenever we went to the Mall...lmao

JustAGuy2112's photo
Mon 12/08/08 08:55 PM
From the age of 13 until I turned 21, I was a full on drunk.

What made me quit?? My daughter was born. I stopped drinking that very day.

These days, I'll go out a couple times a year and get polluted. Occasionally have a drink at home when it's been a long frustrating week at work.

It's kinda funny. I'm the guy who will go to the bar with friends and have just a couple of drinks ( literally ) the whole night.

I am constantly being asked " How can you DO that?? "

I really don't know. I just do.

mcattygarnett's photo
Tue 12/09/08 05:00 AM

From the age of 13 until I turned 21, I was a full on drunk.

What made me quit?? My daughter was born. I stopped drinking that very day.

These days, I'll go out a couple times a year and get polluted. Occasionally have a drink at home when it's been a long frustrating week at work.

It's kinda funny. I'm the guy who will go to the bar with friends and have just a couple of drinks ( literally ) the whole night.

I am constantly being asked " How can you DO that?? "

I really don't know. I just do.



I quit drinks a few years back, because I found that all it did was make me sick the next day and sometimes for a week. Now I am the driver for my friends when they want to go out and get plastered.

mcattygarnett's photo
Tue 12/09/08 05:01 AM







My old addiction
Changed the wiring in my brain
So that when it turns the switches
Then I am not the same.

First lines from a song by David Wilcox.

I think he knows.

I have lost several friends to drugs and alcohol. Some in recovery, some not.
Some intentional, some not.
Always sad just the same.




I dont think that it matters either way, we miss them and it is really hard to get over.


We also miss them when they are alive and using drugs. They are not themselves anymore. It's like an invasion of the body snatchers took over their body and their body is only the shell of whom they are.flowerforyou


Winx.flowerforyou
More than one person I've known has refered to addiction as the living death.



The person that I was close to that was using once said this when he was actively using, "He wouldn't wish it on his worse enemy."


I know a couple of people that have said the same thing.


They're living in a private hell.


yes they are, and I could not imagine the hell that they are living.

SamaraNJ's photo
Tue 12/09/08 05:10 AM

that's awesome!!! The one drug that controlled me was nicotine. Some ppl don't look at it as a drug but it is. I quit smoking 3 months ago and I just keep taking it one day at a time with no cigarettes.


ugh.. i quit cold turkey about 9(??) years ago.. something like that.. after smoking for about 7 or 8... and it was so f*n hard... I would sit and cry cause I didn't want to smoke... and that was just a cigarette.. after quitting smoking and feeling how addicted I was just to a cigarette.. I got a very small taste of how a drug addict must feel... and I can't imagine the strength of the addiction when it comes to something like heroin... I used to think they were weak, horrible people throwing away thier lives and family for drugs... After quitting smoking.. instead of hating addicts, I feel sorry for them more than anything now.. I know its like mountains to molehills.. but I can understand...