Jesus walked the Earth. You were actually one of the disciples let us say!

and from there he would be eventually crucified by the Romans, yet you had a way to get him away from this atrocity of being killed without losing your life and escape with him far away from the Roman Empire where it is safe.

((Edited in - Let us say he didn't agree at first, but later thanked you wholeheartingly for saving his life))

Would you have done it?

I wish I could have done it, because he truly was a man that tried to show other alternatives to resolve problems without using violence.

and yes I know everyone is saying that is not possible, but just imagine it would have been possible. That you convinced Jesus (your friend) to not let the Romans humilate him!

Also if you can imagine with me further what would Christianity be today if this event did happen instead of how we know it written in the bible?

Would Christianity still exist? Would the majority of the people be Jewish or Muslim instead? Would it be Paganism or Wiccas or my favorite Buddhism?

Tell me your short story version of what would happen if the events shifted.

Thank you

I'm thinking the more important think to ask is: do you think he would appreciate you taking him away?

let us say at first he didn't want to, but later is thankful that you did save his life. How would the history of Christianity be today if this would have happened. I am also looking for a kind of short story of what you think would have happened if this event took place instead.

I believe that some of the biggest lessons Christ taught was by dying for others when he did not have to. His selfless love for all of mankind was proven by his death. He also proved to the "church's" of that time, that even a blood sacrifice of God in flesh would not change anything if people did not stop pursuing a self indulgent lifestyle. He stated in his next to last sentence, "father forgive them for they know not what they do". He was saying that to try to get people to understand that they had been lied to for so many generations about what the truth was, that they no longer understood what it was God wanted them to be doing. More than likely, no one could have stopped what happened to him. It was his destiny. He died in our place. If we can get to the point of understanding, we will immediately have our knowledge transformed to wisdom. All made possible by the words and actions of only one man in the history of the planet, Jesus of Nazareth!

there still are those religions, but with the inquisition from the fourth century on to the 19th century, and looming heresy abound, and puritans, baptists and the massive wave of evangelism that actually wants the world to end prematurely, and will bring it about forcefully so they can see their maker, there has been no room for other religions to expand. there's still some who belong to this religion that kill at will in the southern forests and swamps for heresy...i've seen this just outside of new orleans in the bayous... vicious, and bloody. and yes, to answer your question, i would have gotten jesus out of rome.

You have written this with much passion. I can feel it and I appreciate that you give the time to reply. Thank you!

yet let us say that you did change the course of history and actually prevented him to allow himself be crucified. Let us also say he was angry that you did this, but later was very thankful that you saved his life.

How do you think the story would be then? Could you write a short story if the event would have ended differently? It doesn't matter if it ends bad or good. I just want to hear your side of the story in your opinion. Thank you

i'll tell you one thing!!!!!!! he didn't want all these millions of people to die from all of these wars, and power struggles, and millions from the inquisition to die in "the name of god" that was man's doing, and his lust for power and greed, using and abusing god's name....and it's happening now too. for oil, from an evangelistic president... possibly 300,000 iraqi's?

Your answers are always very wisely written and I always anticipate your answers(thank you), yet I wonder would baptism, puritans exist if Christianity didn't?? Would the Bible be in volume only half as big as it is today? Would there at all be a denomination existing?

Would Rome have gone a different direction also?

It seems mankind wages wars with or without a religious belief in our history. You are right there are many wars happening because of religious purposes. Sometimes I think religion is more of a idealogy of a accepted lifestyle then just a belief or faith some call it. Not that I approve of this! It is as if one determines a person by his or her values on a belief system instead of judging each individual seperately for who they are. We seem to value ourselves more if we can have the feeling of being accepted in society by flocking to what is most acceptable then instead of just doing what we feel is best for ourselves. I am not saying everyone is like this, but the majority it seems like it.
Jesus was a man at the time who truly tried to show a different approach that somehow disturb the Roman Authority and perhaps threatened Jewish customs at the same time. It seemed like when a bigger society is threatened they will use violence to try to save their system.

It is just sad to see PeaceKeepers who dedicate their whole lifes preaching how to resolve issues peacefully always end up being murdered. I give a tear to Mahatma Ghandi. I give a tear for Martin Luther King Jr. I give a tear to Jesus.

most certainly! when the rennisance started, there was a loosening of religion, and not as much heresy, and artwork and inventions abound, with no christianity, things would have prospered to large degrees, but laws would have been different as well, and who knows what those laws would be, for greed may have travelled more over the common man verses just the church, and may have been more like babel, which is actually where the iraq war is at present. it could have been many things, and many directions but it's supposed to be just as it is, for we have free will, and are supposed to help the weak, and take care of our friends and families, and that's bottom line.
all secrets of the universe were cancelled the day the romans and christians sacked the alexandria library, for it also went for science, and power of neolithic sites, which is dangerous to the church......and thankyou for the wonderful compliment!!!! it was an incredible question!!!!

well, you have a well rounded mind, and that common sense will get you far, and keep you on the right path to spirituallity, whatever that may be for you, for you see the real icons and not the false ones, and those you mentioned are the real path to forever, if taken in good context with common sense.

I don’t think there would be any such thing as Christianity. Certainly, the resurrection could not have occurred if he didn’t die. So the whole foundation of Christianity would not exist.

I think he probably would have had a significant following. But it would not be as fanatic as Christianity. Probably more of a peaceful philosophy like Buddhism. Possibly called “Jesusism”. Or the two might have merged or one been assimilated by the other.

Obviously, the Crusades and the Inquisition would not have occurred, so civilization might even be more advanced than it is today.

Just some thoughts.

sorry, I really don't understand your question, but I will try to give an answere. If I were capable of getting him out of Rome I probably would have tried to get him to leave, as the discples really did. He would not go! He already new what his destiny was. Remember that he was actually God in flesh. His spirit and Gods spirit are one in the same. His body was flesh, (brain, heart, bones, all of it). This has been one of the biggest tricks of satan to use with people. Satan tries to make us think that we will always have feelings (mental and physical) like these bodies of ours produce. We will not. When we transform from occupying the flesh into the spirit realm we will have a different type of "body". What it is exactly I don't know. We will still recognize each other and be able to communicate, but there will be no more need for knowledge of anything. We will know all of what we wish to know at the same moment we want to know it. We won't be God, but we will be like God in many respects. Lucifer was enough like God that he thought he could take over his kingdom. God warned him not to do it, that he had already lost. We (I think) are part of Gods device to prove this to satan=(lucifer before his fall from Gods presence). Have you ever done something and had someone tell you you can't do that, after you already have? This is a very good example of how disconnected from reality people have become. I don't know if any of this helps, but I hope it has. I wish you well.

Yes the Alexandaria Library. Another great mystery of what we are missing out on. It also leads me to think that perhaps the Muslim Religion would have not existed if Jesus would have been saved from dying?? I wonder about this also. Didn't the Muslim Belief System evolve 600 years later?

Could Jesus have travelled to Asia to seek wisdom from Buddhism before returning back to get the ideas of peaceful solutions? Where did he get his knowledge from. Some would say he is God and had it all along, as others would say he was the son of god and naturally had the wisdom to teach his lessons, and of course even some would say he is a fairytale invented by a writer named Josephus Flaviorus (spelled wrong). Then some actually believe he was a normal human being. If so then where did he get the ability to influence so many people. Where did he get his education and wisdom or better said from whom?

This sounds very logical to me sir

There are many writings that support the idea that Jesus did in fact study many of the different types of religions of that day. Google them you will find them.

Thankyou for sharing your wisdom and knowledge on the subject and I wish you also save passage to happiness.

Thanks, I'm already happy in spirit, just not so much in the flesh thing right now. But thats ok, I've had a tremendous amount of fleshly bliss already in my life!

Thank you.

Defintion of logic: "a way to be wrong with confidence"

But it's fun

Of course I would have wanted to, but I know that he would not have allowed that to happen. He came to be the sacrifice for our sins. He could have saved himself, He was the Son of God. He didn't need his disciples to save him. If he wouldn't save himself, so that he could be the sacrifice, then he would not have saved himself.