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Topic: Gay Marriage should be legal!
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Thu 12/04/08 06:00 AM





I am proud to be a Bible Thumper......that is me.....I spread the Gospel as the Lord tells us.....I love the Lord with all my heart:heart: ....I do not tell people they HAVE to believe it....but like others....I am allowed to post my opinion and back it with facts.

Lindyy
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ha ha a proclamed Bible thumper that flaunts boobslaugh laugh God forbid not in your pictures now..... but have been in the past!laugh laugh Yes that is in gods words to flaunt your belongingslaugh laugh or most all of themlaugh laugh Hope that worked a date for you!laugh laugh


Oh, dear......nothing constructive to add to the post?:banana: :banana: rofl rofl



I'm on your side Lindyy happy I have answered these idiots questions and backed them up with facts and they still can't admit when your right.They even tried to convince me that the majority shouldn't rule when it comes to voting.We are dealing with your typical Liberals with mental disorders.


huh


Yep, he said in another thread that he doesn't call people names like middle school. Yet he calls people in this thread that don't think the way he does idiots.

frustrated frustrated

These "christians" baffle me.

Winx's photo
Thu 12/04/08 06:03 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 12/04/08 06:06 AM






I am proud to be a Bible Thumper......that is me.....I spread the Gospel as the Lord tells us.....I love the Lord with all my heart:heart: ....I do not tell people they HAVE to believe it....but like others....I am allowed to post my opinion and back it with facts.

Lindyy
:heart: :heart: :heart:
ha ha a proclamed Bible thumper that flaunts boobslaugh laugh God forbid not in your pictures now..... but have been in the past!laugh laugh Yes that is in gods words to flaunt your belongingslaugh laugh or most all of themlaugh laugh Hope that worked a date for you!laugh laugh


Oh, dear......nothing constructive to add to the post?:banana: :banana: rofl rofl



I'm on your side Lindyy happy I have answered these idiots questions and backed them up with facts and they still can't admit when your right.They even tried to convince me that the majority shouldn't rule when it comes to voting.We are dealing with your typical Liberals with mental disorders.


huh


Yep, he said in another thread that he doesn't call people names like middle school. Yet he calls people in this thread that don't think the way he does idiots.

frustrated frustrated

These "christians" baffle me.


I thought that we were adults here that debated without name calling. People that say things like that are the ones that make Republicans look bad.frustrated



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Thu 12/04/08 06:26 AM
Edited by Unknow on Thu 12/04/08 06:33 AM



Well for one it is not a right.There is nothing mentioned in the orginal Constitution about marriage.There was a amendment added to the Constitution a few years ago saying that "Marriage is between a man and a woman".So for all legal reasons nobody's rights are getting trampled and marriage is between a man and a woman.

Gay marriage is not what the majority of people want in the country.It has been voted on many times and rejected.Even a ultra left wing liberal state like California rejected it not once but twice.It was not rejected by a hundred or a thousand but by tens of thousands.

Aids is rampant among gay men.Aids is on the rise.

Taken from http://www.avert.org/america.htm a Aids charity website

Men who have sex with men: At the beginning of America’s epidemic, AIDS primarily affected men who have sex with men (MSM). Today, although there are more high-risk groups, MSM still account for around two thirds of HIV diagnoses among male adults and adolescents.10 There have been concerns that an increasing number of MSM are having unprotected sex, leading to a rise in the number of new HIV infections among this group.11 The CDC has reported that between 2001 and 2006, HIV/AIDS diagnoses among MSM increased by 8.6 percent.12 It is thought that the availability of antiretroviral treatment may have lessened the fear surrounding AIDS, leading to complacency about condom use.13


Children from adopted gays have a higher suicide rate than from other traditional families.Gays live a average of 44 years


Gay couples do not care about democracy in America.They do not believe in "Majority rules"(as in our current prop 8 issue).If they win a issue and people complain it's too bad for you.But when they loose they say people are racists,homophobes,and evil.They sue and overturn laws to suit their needs.Speaking out against gays is considered a hate crime in many cities in America.

Please show proof of what you say. Plz show aids is more rapid in gay men. I believe you will find it more in 16-25 heterosexuals.Aides is not a gay disease. Prove gays only live to 44 and have a higher rate of suicide. You posted it! As for explaining to the child, what about hetero couples with children born out of an affair? Happens all the time. How can you say gay couples dont believe in democracy. They volunteer for the military, work jobs and pay taxes... You posted it PROVE IT!!!!!
I stand corrected one one..Here's some good facts about aides and will show its not just a gay disease.www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/ One more thing I would to add. I guess all those people who supported a woman's right to vote before it became a law was "Unpatriotic" just to name one.

adj4u's photo
Thu 12/04/08 09:21 AM
bigotry

abounds

Winx's photo
Thu 12/04/08 09:24 AM

bigotry

abounds


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Foliel's photo
Thu 12/04/08 09:24 AM
Edited by Foliel on Thu 12/04/08 09:25 AM
Please do NOT call me a liberal or an idiot for I am neither.

I do not agree with your point of view and that is my right. Just as it is your right to not agree with mine. You will notice that none of the so called libs have stooped to calling the religious people idiots.

I guess believeing that everyone should have the same rights makes me a lib.


BTW I know a great many gay men and women who are over 44 years old...so much for the average

Lord_Psycho's photo
Thu 12/04/08 10:35 AM
people are crazt just put all the ugly people in a island n let them be!!!!

Winx's photo
Thu 12/04/08 10:41 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 12/04/08 10:42 AM


Well for one it is not a right.There is nothing mentioned in the orginal Constitution about marriage.There was a amendment added to the Constitution a few years ago saying that "Marriage is between a man and a woman".So for all legal reasons nobody's rights are getting trampled and marriage is between a man and a woman.

Gay marriage is not what the majority of people want in the country.It has been voted on many times and rejected.Even a ultra left wing liberal state like California rejected it not once but twice.It was not rejected by a hundred or a thousand but by tens of thousands.

Aids is rampant among gay men.Aids is on the rise.

Taken from http://www.avert.org/america.htm a Aids charity website

Men who have sex with men: At the beginning of America’s epidemic, AIDS primarily affected men who have sex with men (MSM). Today, although there are more high-risk groups, MSM still account for around two thirds of HIV diagnoses among male adults and adolescents.10 There have been concerns that an increasing number of MSM are having unprotected sex, leading to a rise in the number of new HIV infections among this group.11 The CDC has reported that between 2001 and 2006, HIV/AIDS diagnoses among MSM increased by 8.6 percent.12 It is thought that the availability of antiretroviral treatment may have lessened the fear surrounding AIDS, leading to complacency about condom use.13


Children from adopted gays have a higher suicide rate than from other traditional families.Gays live a average of 44 years


Gay couples do not care about democracy in America.They do not believe in "Majority rules"(as in our current prop 8 issue).If they win a issue and people complain it's too bad for you.But when they loose they say people are racists,homophobes,and evil.They sue and overturn laws to suit their needs.Speaking out against gays is considered a hate crime in many cities in America.



What does AIDS have to do with gays getting married?!

And this is truly a ridiculous statement:

"Gays live a average of 44 years."

That is false!!!




Lynann's photo
Thu 12/04/08 11:03 AM
Edited by Lynann on Thu 12/04/08 11:03 AM
Name calling seems to come easily to some here.

It's a measure of their intellect.

If you can't bring a real fact based argument to an issue call names and claim God is on your side.

On thread after thread no matter its subject matter or content the president, the war, the economic crisis, gay marriage, crime, health care...

Doesn't matter what the issue is their retort is always the same in the end.

Name calling, the assertion theirs is the only right and moral position and then the tried and true "because the bible tells me so" line.

This along with a stunningly consistent ability to ignore facts or proofs even when they are placed before them.

Even more disturbing are those that comment on threads without even reading the posts.

To them I say this. Cling to your prejudices, hatred and limited thinking all you want and post it all please. Your true colors show. Your pathetic meanness shines through.

Your hate, pettiness and limited thinking only serves as an example to the rest of us. It fuels the desire to educate to replace ignorance. It drives us to fight hate with love. It motivates us to not be silent but to instead speak out for justice for all.

I thank you.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Thu 12/04/08 02:31 PM

I still think my roommate, who is religious, has the right idea....

Abolish all marriage, then there won't be marriage issues at all.

I also certainly hope, that marriage is not all about procreating as someone suggested, because then alot of sterile straight couples are in trouble.....

Hell any couple not able to bear children is in trouble.

Abolish marriage..I like it!!

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Thu 12/04/08 02:41 PM

Name calling seems to come easily to some here.

It's a measure of their intellect.

If you can't bring a real fact based argument to an issue call names and claim God is on your side.

On thread after thread no matter its subject matter or content the president, the war, the economic crisis, gay marriage, crime, health care...

Doesn't matter what the issue is their retort is always the same in the end.

Name calling, the assertion theirs is the only right and moral position and then the tried and true "because the bible tells me so" line.

This along with a stunningly consistent ability to ignore facts or proofs even when they are placed before them.

Even more disturbing are those that comment on threads without even reading the posts.

To them I say this. Cling to your prejudices, hatred and limited thinking all you want and post it all please. Your true colors show. Your pathetic meanness shines through.

Your hate, pettiness and limited thinking only serves as an example to the rest of us. It fuels the desire to educate to replace ignorance. It drives us to fight hate with love. It motivates us to not be silent but to instead speak out for justice for all.

I thank you.


I wholeheartedly agree.
Because of this behavior I seldom come here to post.
This name calling of a certain fraction of the posters here clearly annoy me. I want to learn something about others, but I have left the stage of adolescent behavior too far behind me to put up with it.

Winx's photo
Thu 12/04/08 02:45 PM

Please do NOT call me a liberal or an idiot for I am neither.

I do not agree with your point of view and that is my right. Just as it is your right to not agree with mine. You will notice that none of the so called libs have stooped to calling the religious people idiots.

I guess believeing that everyone should have the same rights makes me a lib.


BTW I know a great many gay men and women who are over 44 years old...so much for the average



No kidding. I have a gay Uncle in his 60's. Sheesh.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Thu 12/04/08 02:56 PM

Name calling seems to come easily to some here.

It's a measure of their intellect.

If you can't bring a real fact based argument to an issue call names and claim God is on your side.

On thread after thread no matter its subject matter or content the president, the war, the economic crisis, gay marriage, crime, health care...

Doesn't matter what the issue is their retort is always the same in the end.

Name calling, the assertion theirs is the only right and moral position and then the tried and true "because the bible tells me so" line.

This along with a stunningly consistent ability to ignore facts or proofs even when they are placed before them.

Even more disturbing are those that comment on threads without even reading the posts.

To them I say this. Cling to your prejudices, hatred and limited thinking all you want and post it all please. Your true colors show. Your pathetic meanness shines through.

Your hate, pettiness and limited thinking only serves as an example to the rest of us. It fuels the desire to educate to replace ignorance. It drives us to fight hate with love. It motivates us to not be silent but to instead speak out for justice for all.

I thank you.

Nicely said.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Thu 12/04/08 02:57 PM


Please do NOT call me a liberal or an idiot for I am neither.

I do not agree with your point of view and that is my right. Just as it is your right to not agree with mine. You will notice that none of the so called libs have stooped to calling the religious people idiots.

I guess believeing that everyone should have the same rights makes me a lib.


BTW I know a great many gay men and women who are over 44 years old...so much for the average



No kidding. I have a gay Uncle in his 60's. Sheesh.

Me too.lol

Winx's photo
Thu 12/04/08 05:05 PM



Please do NOT call me a liberal or an idiot for I am neither.

I do not agree with your point of view and that is my right. Just as it is your right to not agree with mine. You will notice that none of the so called libs have stooped to calling the religious people idiots.

I guess believeing that everyone should have the same rights makes me a lib.


BTW I know a great many gay men and women who are over 44 years old...so much for the average



No kidding. I have a gay Uncle in his 60's. Sheesh.

Me too.lol


Maybe we should introduce them. bigsmile

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Thu 12/04/08 05:54 PM

oh my. I should have brought some popcorn.
this is quite a show !

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Thu 12/04/08 07:39 PM
I thought I lived in America, but lately I am not so sure.

Gays are gay not stupid. A gay couple would teach their adopted kids the same way a straight couple would where kids come from. A person born gay would be able to love a person of the same sex, of course, but having sex with them might be an issue.

The church can't stand this issue, they of course would prefer it be a choice, that way they can claim that they can be cured, changed, saved from themselves.. ugh If proved they are born gay that would cause the bible to be one again suspect. Cant have that now can we.

Some gays very well might be born that way. Some, like me made that conscious choice as an adult. I was abused by family members as a child, in a supposed god fearing family. Then treated poorly by males when I was in my twenties who didn't understand the word no, didn't understand that women could support themselves, didn't understand that women could have friends with out sleeping with them, didn't understand that a woman might prefer not to serve you diner every single night just because she is the woman, and on and on. I never needed much of an excuse to choose women, because men gave me so many not to choose men.

I chose women because I prefered to be treated as an equal, something that most men still haven't gotten a handle on as of yet.

And for the very few that I have met that were willing to treat me as an equal, it was already too late but they remain my closest friends.

I imagine even if some old homophobic dude in the bible was proven wrong about gays, most radical straights would find some other problem with it. For others it's Probably the ick factor.

But I dont' think they realize we all have ick factors. I find straight sex pretty icky but I don't tell my straight friends they shouldn't be having it.

I am also celebate.. Please Thomas, don't faint.. I have been for 30 years. I can live and have lived very happily for that many years with out sex, and yet I still consider myself gay. I have had a partner in life for 25 years. And yes a gay woman that remained committed to me despite the fact that I chose to be celebate. Now that is one special person in my book, and yet some or sorry to say most straights would deny me the same rights to marry the person I do so love, because their religion is against it. Never mind that religion should have nothing to do with it. Again, where am I living? America? Hmmmm


Thomas you are one very uninformed human being, you really should think about getting an education.

Thomas says: I stand corrected.The bill I am talking about is called The Federal Marriage Amendment.Although it passed in both house and congress it still did not get the majority to add a amendment to the constitution.

Now see how easy that was, I surely hope you can also correct your other false statements as well. How about backing up your own content before posting it. Now finding a site that agrees with your facts then posting them, especially when they are wrong.

Personally that vote should not have been up to the people, to pit one group of americans against another, something the Right is very adept at doing. Lucky for us that it didn't work with the election this time. By the way, it was already decided in the court, but the Right couldn't have that, they wanted to be sure they could get it decided by the people. And yes according to the supreme court they have every right to try to overturn something that isn't right, Thomas, but then your not gay are you? So it's no skin off your nose what the majority wants.

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Thu 12/04/08 07:47 PM

Idiots reproduce every day

Why not let gays get married?

Gays don't bother me

Idiots do!


That was priceless! I will have to remember that one...

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Thu 12/04/08 08:28 PM

I don't know...I just wish we could go back to less disagreement...less government intervention...fewer liberals...they're the pains in the asses that fugged everything up...Christmas...the Pledge Alligance...no smoking...gay rights...busing...affirmative action...Liberals...damn !!!!!!!!


Oh ya, those terrible liberals that want freedom for all, not just the nut jobs on the right.

Lynann's photo
Thu 12/04/08 08:31 PM
Welcome to the political thread Boo!

Nice post.

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