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Topic: .........IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORD ? ........
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Sat 11/29/08 10:01 PM
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The author of the message below,
just tells it like it is.

I must warn you , He is a bit ruff( I prefer being kind no matter what),
but
I believe his Words speak the TRUTH nonetheless ,
and
thus needed to be heard by ALL.

Mostly, the reason this word needs to be heard ,
is
because the Time is short,
and
the enemy is busy trying
to
devour all he can ,
in
these final last days.


Here is the Message now.flowerforyou

:heart: Be Blessed Everyone Now.:heart:



......Is The Bible God's Word?.......

( by David J. Stewart )

"All Scripture is given by Inspiration of God,
and is Profitable for Doctrine,
for Reproof,
for Correction,
for Instruction in Righteousness:" -
2nd Timothy 3:16

Evidence That the Bible is God's Word:

Because it claims to be (as read in our Scripture above).

Because It hits the nail right on the head concerning the sinfulness of mankind.

2nd Timothy 3:1-7 reads,

" This know also,
that in the last days perilous times shall come.

For
men shall be lovers of their own selves,

covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful,

unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers,

false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors,

heady, highminded,

lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness,
but
denying the power thereof:

from such turn away.

For of this sort are they which creep into houses,
and lead captive silly women laden with sins,

led away with divers lusts,

Ever learning,
and
never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."


Mankind is evil through and through. The humanists say man can improve. The New Age gang says that we can become gods.

Evolutionists claim we all came from apes (with NO proof whatsoever).

The Mormons say we can become gods.

Do you think the American Psychiatric Association
is going to tell you that
you're a sinner on your way to Hell if you die in your sins?
No!

This is NOT JUST RELIGION MY FRIEND , this is YOUR LIFE!!!

What Book is there on this earth that gives you the PLAIN TRUTH about mankind and life?

THE WORD OF GOD is the ONLY ANSWER!!!

The Bible plainly teaches that man is prone to destruction because man has a sin-nature (Romans 3:10,23;5:12;7:21).

Archaeology is in agreement with the Word of God.

Not one spadefull of dirt has ever been uncovered to disprove the Word of God.
In fact, many Archaeological expeditions
have provided substantial evidence in support of Biblical claims.
We don't need Archeology
to prove the Bible,
the Bible is evidence enough by itself.

Yet,
here are more proofs if you need them.
The Bible Itself is all the evidence I need.

The Bible is scientifically accurate.

Isaiah 40:22 declares that the earth is round.

Leviticus 17:11 declares
that
the life is in the blood.

For centuries doctors foolishly drained
the blood out of their patients resulting in certain death.

The Bible also mentions astronomy, Job 9:9
mentions Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades.

Proverb 17:22 teaches that good health is
directly linked to being happy.

Psychiatrists offices are overflowing today
with
the stressed out people.

Happiness can only come from being SAVED
and
Living for the TRUTH of GOD'S WORD.


The Bible was miraculously written.

The Bible was written over a 1,500 year period
by
40 different men
as
GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT MOVED THRU THEM!!!

There is NO earthly way possible that
so many men (most of whom never met each other),
could have written
so
many different books
in
different styles
that
all perfectly merge into one meaningful Book,

BUT....

WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!!!!!


The world's hatred for the Word of God.

John 3:20 reads,
"For every one that doeth evil hateth the light,
neither
cometh to the light,
lest
his deeds should be reproved."

This is why the unsaved world
hates
Jesus Christ and His Word so intensely,
because
They expose sin!

NO book on this planet is hated anywhere near as much as the Bible.

Most people hate the Truth.

Speaking the Truth is a fast way to make enemies,
"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?.

" The world hated Jesus without a cause because He spoke the Truth (John 15:25).

The world's hatred for Christians.

Jesus said, "I have given them thy word;
and the world hath hated them, because
they are not of the world,
even
as I am not of the world" -John 17:14.

I've been despised and hated my whole life because of my Christian testimony.

I know what it's like to be ostracized by others,
to be lied about,
to be called a hypocrite,
to be laughed at and ridiculed,
to be the black sheep of the family.

But I know God will make everything right in Heaven.
Jesus told us that we'd be hated.

It's really Jesus and the Bible that they hate, not us.
I'm not going to feel bad about something that God said would happen.

I don't like to be hated,
but
I love the Truth and want to please God by proclaiming It far and wide.

The attack from false religions.

The book of Koran is a jumbled mess containing no prophecy at all.

The Koran attacks Christians, Jews, and the doctrines of the Bible.

The Jehovah Witnesses (JW's) claim that Michael the archangel became Jesus.
They deny Christ's deity.

The Mormons deny Christ's deity.

The Catholics pervert the Bible by teaching the necessity of the sacraments for salvation, etc.

Wiccan witches reject the Word of God as fables.

New Agers teach that there are millions of ways to God,
just
follow the light;

but
the Word of God proclaims that there is
ONLY
ONE WAY TO HEAVEN
and
that's through JESUS CHRIST!!!

Every false religion in one way or another
twists and corrupts
the Word of God.

The attack is AGAINST the WORD OF GOD!!!

The woeful condition of the world.

The Bible clearly teaches
that
Satan is the "god" of this world (2nd Corinthians 4:4).

John 10:10 plainly declares that the Devil only comes
to
kill, steal, and destroy.

It's obvious that there are evil forces at work beyond human suffering and war.

Most people believe in God and Satan, so
why is it so hard to accept the idea that
GOD
WOULD WANT TO
COMMUNICATE
WITH
HIS CREATION?? (Humanity)

It doesn't surprise me
that
spoiled Americans would deny the existence of God and Satan,
but
ask anyone in a third world nation if they believe.

Pride blinds men's eyes.

1st John 5:19 declares that the whole world lieth in wickedness.

The existence of Satanists and occult groups.
The fact that all these Satanic groups,
like the Church of Satan are proof of Satan.

Wicca witches deny the existence of Satan,
but Biblically they are of Satan.

Just because they deny the Devil doesn't mean he doesn't exist.

Hitler was known to levitate above the floor.
He was infatuated with the occult.

America is plagued with occult groups such as
Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, Freemasonry, and many more.

Freemasonry commonly displays an upside down pentagram representing the Devil.
They worship the great architect, Baphomet (Satan).

Just look online at some of the witchcraft websites speaking about spells,
charms, astral projection, astrology, etc.

The Bible clearly
FORBIDS
such activities
(Deuteronomy 18:10; 1st Samuel 15:23; Isaiah 47:13, Ephesians 5:11).

The Holy Spirit in my heart.

Romans 8:9 reads,
"But
ye are not in the flesh,
but
in the Spirit,
if so be that the
Spirit of God dwell in you.

Now
if any man have not
the
Spirit of Christ,
he is none of his."

And Romans 8:16,
"The Spirit
itself
beareth witness with our spirit,
that
we are the children of God:"

What a wonderful Truth,
God's Holy Spirit
lives
within the body of every believer.

I know that the Bible
is God's Word
because
the Holy Spirit within my body
tells me so.

It's not something I can describe.

All I can say is
that
when I read the Word of God,
it
all makes perfect sense to me.

I thank God for His Precious Word!

All of the modern corrupt Bibles.

The fact that Satan
is
trying to eradicate the Truth
by
corrupting It's contents speaks volumes.

The fact that every modern Bible diminishes
the deity of Christ,
the blood atonement,
the Godhead,
and many other doctrines as compared to
the King James Bible
is
evidence that the Bible is indeed God's Word.

Sadly,
even many believers
have
bought into the Devil's lie
of
swapping their trustworthy King James Bible for a perversion like the New International Version which completely removes the words
"Godhead," "sodomites," and even
"begotten" in John 3:16.

It is so obvious that Satan is relentlessly attacking God's Word.

Man wouldn't have written the bible.

Man couldn't have written the Bible if he wanted to,
and
wouldn't if he could have.

Why would men write a book condemning themselves?

Not one book throughout history even comes near to the Bible's description of mankind.

Jeremiah 17:9 reads,
"The
heart is
deceitful above all things,
and
desperately wicked:
who can know it?"

What man could write such a thing?

The lie of evolution.

The fact that
evolution
is taught as if it were a fact all across the world
is
evidence of man's unwillingness to learn the Truth.

Evolution has no scientific basis,
it cannot be tested or studied.

Evolution is NOT science, but a mere theory of atheist conjectures.

If
the Bible is not true,
then why is
mankind desperately trying to hide his ignorance concerning creation.

There is NO answer
which makes sense
EXCEPT GOD!!

Evolution is proof of one thing, that man is afraid of the Truth.


A man recently
sent me a letter
asking
how I knew the Bible was God's Word.

He said that the Bible contained many contradictions that confused him.

A simple web search under "Alleged Bible Discrepancies" will
provide
hundreds of links to answer any skeptics questions.

Googling just the above
alone ,
provided 701 links.

Several excellent books
have
been written on this issue
which
will also show up in any web search under
"Alleged Bible Discrepancies."

The problem is
that
a lot of people want to argue, they're belligerent.

They DON'T want to learn the TRUTH, they
just want to argue what they believe.

I don't argue with people, I generally just send them Bible verses.

Let them argue with God.

The gentleman who wrote me
also
asked how Noah was
able
to provide Eucalyptus plants for the Koala's on the ark.

He also wanted to know
why
the tower of Babel was an issue
when
planes today fly much higher than the tower of Babel could have been built.

Then he asked
where
Cain got his wife.

I sent him the following Scripture...

"But avoid foolish questions,
and
genealogies, and contentions,
and
strivings about the law;
for
they are unprofitable and vain.
A man that
is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Knowing that
he that is such is subverted,
and sinneth,
being
condemned of himself." -Titus 3:9-11

The word "subverted" simply means
that
he is destroyed of himself.

He is corrupted
to
the point where he is unreasonable.


You can't logic with him because he has become his own worst enemy.

The Word of God directs us NOT to answer questions which have no answer...

"But foolish and unlearned questions avoid,
knowing that they do gender strifes." -2nd Timothy 2:23

I don't try to answer questions that have no obvious answer.

The Apostle Paul clearly said that God
has only provided us
with
a limited understanding,

"For now we see through a glass, darkly;
but
then face to face:
now
I know in part;
but
then shall I know
even
as also I am known" -1st Corinthians 13:12.

Too many believers try to answer questions
which do not need to be answered.

I'm not going to try to figure out where Cain's wife came from.
Does it matter?

To
the godless reprobate that is already biased against God's Word,
you've
got to prove everything to him
or else
he claims he won't believe.

The truth of the matter is
that
he wouldn't believe anyway
even
if you could prove it to him.

Abraham told
the rich man in Hell
concerning
his brothers still living,

"If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither
will they be persuaded,
though
one rose from the dead" -Luke 16:31.


What is Proof?

I get all sorts of letters
from people
wanting "proof"
that the Bible is God's Word.

What is "proof."

Is it not relevant?

Proof is based upon evidence.

The evidence that I might consider as "proof" of something may not be enough evidence for you.

You can present the same evidence to 10 different people
and
they may not all except it as proof.

Hence, some people believed that
the
earth was round hundreds of years ago simply because
Isaiah 40:22 said that it was (or because they saw that the moon was round).

Yet, there were also plenty of skeptics back then
who
adamantly proclaimed that they'd go to their graves believing that the earth was flat.

Everyone who believed the earth was flat was wrong,
but
they were sincerely wrong.

Likewise,
many people today are
sincerely wrong
about the Word of God.

To me,
the
WORD OF GOD
itself

is
PROOF ENOUGH

that

It
is
the

ETERNAL

INSPIRED

INFALLIBLE

INCORRUPTIBLE

PRESERVED

WORD OF GOD!!!

If it is not enough proof for you, then
your fate is in your own hands.

I receive so many letters from people who
want to argue over foolishness.

They don't really want to find the Truth of God's Word.

Arguing,
like gossip,
is a cheap form of entertainment for some people.

The Apostle Paul in this Scriptures we just read ,
advises us to "reject" belligerent people who just want to argue foolishness.

By "Reject" Paul simply means that we shouldn't
waste our time trying to convince someone
who already has formed a biased opinion.

I receive many wonderful letters from people
who need my help,
and
I always do my best to help them.

It's not that we should give up on anyone,
but
there are so many people
who
haven't heard the gospel that need our help.

Let us be productive for God
and
not allow critics to preoccupy our precious time which can be spent helping
those who want to be helped.

Romans 10:15 reads,

"...How beautiful are the feet of them that
preach the gospel of peace,
and bring glad tidings of good things!"

Notice that the Bible doesn't say it is beautiful
to
argue with people.

What is beautiful
is
the GOOD NEWS of JESUS CHRIST.

I have written an article concerning this
which I hope you will read titled, The Simple Gospel.

We must all read the Bible for our self
and
then personally decide
whether or not
we believe It is God's Word.

There is NO magic bullet.

Either
you BELIEVE
the
Bible is God's Word
or
you don't!

I believe 100%!


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The Heart of the Matter...

To him who believes, no explanation is necessary; to him that believeth not, no explanation is possible.



http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/gods_word.htm



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Sat 11/29/08 10:14 PM
soo...the bible is god's word because it says it is.

Well i say the bible isn't god's word because i say it isn't tongue2

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Sat 11/29/08 11:20 PM
Jasmine....

although I believe without a shadow of doubt that the Word of God is true 100 per cent ,

I feel it is up to God to Reveal Truth , not man...

man's job is simpy gettgn the Word out there.... sharing the Good news in LOVE( not in judgment of others who don't yet believe).....

that's all.....

and God does the Rest!!!



Also,I don't neccessarily agree with some other things mentioned in this article(shared above)....

but
my agreeing or disagreeing , isn't important...

simply because overall.... the message had some important things to say, that needed to be said.

What I also disagree with in the article :

the author saying the world hates christians.

Personally, I believe in lifting up Jesus, not pointing out man's faults...or focusing on the world hating us.

Frankly,
when Christians are IN LOVE with the LORD,
and
STAYING FOCUSED on the JESUS....
and
Staying Busy LIFTING UP THE LORD JESUS CHRIST ( and instead of focusing on man's faults or shortcomings)....

then
Christians aren't gonna be concerned with whether anyone hates them or not....

simply because
they are gonna be tooo busy
LOVING EVERYONE....
to be wondering otherwise.

Also.. I don't agree with what the author shared....
in regard
to the different versions of the bible.

Personally,
I beleive
the many different versions of the bible,

do NOT
take away from the original God Divinely Inspired message....

but in fact,
help
WITH UNDERSTANDING THE MESSAGE OF GOD'S WORD ,
by
simply giving better insight into the Word.

I believe in reading ALL the different versions of the Bible....
because ....
I believe one can learn and grow in God's Word,
from reading them
ALL
(although I love the Old KJV the best..with the thee's and thou sayestlaugh:wink::heart: ).

But again.... overall....
the
message written by the author(above) ,needed to be said...
although
his overall tone,
I don't neccessarily agree with.

No christian is perfect..so hopefully, I would ask that everyone will just overlook his "tone" in the message...and just forgive him. laugh:wink::heart:flowerforyou

Nite Jasmine....flowerforyou Nite Everyone....flowerforyou

Be Very Blessed Nowflowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou




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Sat 11/29/08 11:22 PM
nitey nite flowerforyou waving

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Sun 11/30/08 06:37 PM
And Romans 8:16,
"The Spirit
itself
beareth witness with our spirit,
that
we are the children of God:"



It makes sense to me that if we are the children of God that when we grow up we will also be Gods.


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Sun 11/30/08 06:39 PM

soo...the bible is god's word because it says it is.

Well i say the bible isn't god's word because i say it isn't tongue2



laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 11/30/08 07:38 PM

And Romans 8:16,
"The Spirit
itself
beareth witness with our spirit,
that
we are the children of God:"



It makes sense to me that if we are the children of God that when we grow up we will also be Gods.




close but not quite, Jeannie...

GOD made us in His Image ...and Yes,

God made us to be LIKE GOD

but....

NOT NOT NOT TO BECOME GOD!!!

(that was Lucifer's big mistake...he

tried to BECOME God)


There is ONLY ONE GOD.....

and always Will be ONLY

ONE GOD ALMIGHTY .


But other than that....yes....

we were made to be like God.

In fact....

That was God's Plan right from the start...

but then sin entered in...

creating SEPARATION

between

man and God .....

BUT

thru Accepting Christ Jesus....

the Gap between man and God is

FOREVER SHUT....

as we are ONCE MORE

brought into

FELLOWSHIP AND RELATIONSDIP

WITH GOD ALMIGHTY.....

THE WAY GOD MEANT IT TO BE

RIGHT FROM THE START!!!


And since we are made to be like

God.....

that means

heaven will not be a boring place....

with us just sitting around on lily

white clouds...

doing nothing, right?flowerforyou


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Sun 11/30/08 08:21 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 11/30/08 08:28 PM
I don't become my father either.

Nor do I grow up and become my mother.

But I will become an adult human being.

If God is "my father" and I (as soul) am "his child," then one day I will become an adult "God"...."like him" as you say.

I am not talking about actually becoming HIM.

I DON'T WANT HIS JOB.

geeeeeze. huh

BUT if you say there is only "one God" then what you are saying is that there is only one "ruler" or "boss" of heaven and that is what "God" actually means.

SO THAT WOULD MEAN: God is not a description of a being or entity it is simply a job description, like "President."

There can only be one President.






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Sun 11/30/08 08:34 PM
The bible is GOD's word. The people who wrote the first part of the bible were given those words by GOD himself. In the new testiment, the words that are highlighted in red a words spoken directley from Jesus Christ. Read Revelations, It is speaking to the time to come, in which the saved or the church will be caught up to be with Jesus in the air, leaving all unbelievers behind. If you don't know Jesus as your personal savior, now is the time to do it. I think that his coming will be very soon, people say I'll do it later. It will happen within a blink of an eye. You won't have time to pray then, It'll be too late. Search your heart, pray, find a church you feel comfortable in, and seek christian advice. Sunday School is the best way to do that. They teach you in there, and don't hesitate to ask questions if you are curious and just don't understand. If the teacher doesn't take the time or blows you off for something else. That's not the church for you. Go to another, and another. There is one out there who can help you come to the true knowledge of Jesus Christ, GOD the father, and the Holy Ghost.

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Sun 11/30/08 11:25 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Sun 11/30/08 11:37 PM
No Jeannie, God is NOT

just a

description of some

being ,

holding a so called PRESIDENT'S Job

over All his creation.flowerforyou


God is NOT JUST a

DESCRIPTION .



GOD IS AN ACTUAL SUPREME BEING


WHO IS GOD ABOVE ALL

AND

WHO REIGNS SUPREME

OVER ALL.



But yet,

we as Beleivers

are JOINED with CHRIST .


And Christ being part of the

Godhead ,

means that

by accepting Jesus (God's Son) ,

we are joined WITH God.

(When we Join Christ by accepting

Him ,Christ is the Head ,and

Beleivers are the Body ).


One more thing....

ALL Glory Now

Has been given by God the Father

to CHRIST JESUS (God's Son ) ....

because of what Jesus did on that

cross for us All.

And also....

There is only ONE NAME under heaven

by which man can be SAVED.

JESUS is that Name.

ONE WAY JESUS.


And when we join Jesus, we become

ONE in Christ...

yet we are NOT Christ.

But Yet still...

we become ONE with Christ

and One in Christ.


One last thing.....

even though God Rules Supreme ,

God CREATED MAN

TO HAVE RELATIONSHIP

AND

FELLOWSHIP

WITH HIM !!!!


THAT WAS GOD'S PLAN IN MIND

TO BEGIN WITH!!!


AND WHEN THAT RELATIONSHIP WAS

BROKEN,

GOD LOVED US SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH ,

THAT HE GAVE

HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON

TO TAKE OUR PLACE ON THAT CROSS...

SO

THAT HIS CREATION (MAN)

COULD BE RESTORED

BACK INTO RELATIONSHIP

AND

FELLOWSHIP

WITH ALMIGHTY GOD...ONCE MORE!!!

NOW...THAT'S CALLED LOVE!!!


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Mon 12/01/08 09:28 AM
IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORD ?

I don't believe it is. But everyone has their personal opinion and belief and they have a right to them.

I believe the Bible was written by political men with an agenda, and it was not written by who you think.

The Old testament was not called the "Old testament" until the New Testament was written. The old testament is old time Judaic law and doctrine that the Romans hated and sought to destroy by writing the New Testament and creating Christianity. The Romans hated the Jews and were threatened by them.

The New Testament, the Church and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso (pronounced Peso) family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it - Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles, Paul, John the Baptist - all are fictional. The Pisos created the story and the characters; they tied the story to a specific time and place in history; and they connected it with some peripheral actual people, such as the Herods, Gamaliel, the Roman procurators, etc. But Jesus and everyone involved with him were created (that is fictiotional!) characters.”



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Mon 12/01/08 09:32 AM
yes and no

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Mon 12/01/08 09:34 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 12/01/08 09:37 AM
MS said:

God is NOT JUST a

DESCRIPTION .
GOD IS AN ACTUAL SUPREME BEING


So if the term "GOD" describes an actual supreme being, and this supreme being has children, then his children are also supreme beings.

Right?

If a human being has children, their children are also human beings. Right?

All human children grow up to become human beings.
So then all "supreme being" children will grow up to be "supreme beings."

So if you are a supreme being, are you not also what is considered to be a god?

If not, then what is the meaning of the term God?

If there can only be one God, then that must mean that the meaning of the term God is that he is ruler, King, president, Leader, Master etc.

But if God is a supreme being and has children, then the children are also supreme beings when they grow up or become spiritually mature.

Otherwise don't go calling us "The children of God."

We are either God's family (supreme beings) or we are his creation which amounts to being his "pets."

You can't have it both ways!







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Mon 12/01/08 02:57 PM
I guess I am really grateful for the fact that I've kinda turned into a simple man of sorts. I believe what I believe and I am not in the least bit, ashamed to admit it. Christ is my saviour, I am not perfect, just forgiven. I also know beyond any reason of a doubt if it were not for miraculous events, I WOULD BE DEAD! later

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Mon 12/01/08 03:50 PM

I also know beyond any reason of a doubt if it were not for miraculous events, I WOULD BE DEAD!



Miraculous events happen all the time. What's that got to do with any particular religion?

Besides, why would you want to live?

If you truly believe that death will take you to God then death should be the one thing that you most look forward to. flowerforyou

Christian's fear of death is the most ironic thing I've ever heard. laugh


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Mon 12/01/08 03:57 PM


I also know beyond any reason of a doubt if it were not for miraculous events, I WOULD BE DEAD!



Miraculous events happen all the time. What's that got to do with any particular religion?

Besides, why would you want to live?

If you truly believe that death will take you to God then death should be the one thing that you most look forward to. flowerforyou

Christian's fear of death is the most ironic thing I've ever heard. laugh


I don't fear anything concerning death for myself, all ready been there. The next time I hope I remember not to come back!

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Mon 12/01/08 06:07 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 12/01/08 06:30 PM

MS said:

God is NOT JUST a

DESCRIPTION .
GOD IS AN ACTUAL SUPREME BEING


So if the term "GOD" describes an actual supreme being, and this supreme being has children, then his children are also supreme beings.

Right?

If a human being has children, their children are also human beings. Right?

All human children grow up to become human beings.
So then all "supreme being" children will grow up to be "supreme beings."

So if you are a supreme being, are you not also what is considered to be a god?

If not, then what is the meaning of the term God?

If there can only be one God, then that must mean that the meaning of the term God is that he is ruler, King, president, Leader, Master etc.

But if God is a supreme being and has children, then the children are also supreme beings when they grow up or become spiritually mature.

Otherwise don't go calling us "The children of God."

We are either God's family (supreme beings) or we are his creation which amounts to being his "pets."

You can't have it both ways!











Yes Jeannie.....

When we become born again , we
become the
Children of God....

who in turn,
grow up and mature..
and
become
LIKE
God....

but

we Never Never Never
BECOME
GOD.

And if anyone per chance, thinks he can BECOME God, he is a rebell and NOT of God ....and was NEVER born again to begin with!!!!!

The Truth is.......true born again Christians have NO DESIRE
to
REBELL against God.....
or
BECOME God....

but
ONLY HAVE A DESIRE
to
REVERENCE AND LOVE GOD!!!!



Lucifer REBELLED against God....
and
thought he would BECOME GOD...
because

there was NO LOVE in Lucifer for God whatsoever...
but
ONLY PRIDE !!


WHEN WE TRULY LOVE GOD,
(which comes from a changed heart by becoming born again ) ,

we
CAN NOT AND WILL NOT
go around
rebelling against God......

thinkinging just because we now can become LIKE God,
that
we think we now can BECOME God!!!!!!

NOT
if we are TRULY BORN AGAIN , that is!!!

However....

a child of God(until he matures and grows up more) ,

will sometimes
become rebellious or disobey God...

BUT BUT BUT.....

a TRUE child of God won't stay that way for long.....

simply because the Holy Spirit INDWELLING
that child of God,

will become sooooo grieved within a child of God,

that the child of God can't help
but
come RUNNING back to God!!

And With a broken and contrite spirit!!


This is because ,
after
becoming born again,

a born again child of God
has
God's LOVE
dwelling in his/her heart now..

and wants to PLEASE God..,
out
of LOVE for God....

because again...

God's Holy Spirit lives in that born again child's heart!!!!

Meaning... God dwells in the heart of a born again beleiver...
and
where God is ...LOVE IS!!

Amen!!

So in a nutshell,Jeannie....

WHEN People are TRULY BORN again .....

yes....

they will grow up eventually....
but
also
WILL have a LOVE for God....
to where
they want to PLEASE GOD...
and
NOT want to rebel or try to BECOME GOD!!

The LOVE in the Believers hearts FOR GOD...

MAKES BELIEVERS WANT TO

ADORE

AND

WORSHIP

AND

PRAISE

AND

LOVE GOD...

WITH ALL THEIR

HEARTS

AND

MINDS

AND

SOULS.....

AND BELIEVERS NEVER NEVER EVER

TIRE OR GROW WEARY IN

LOVING AND WANTING TO PLEASE OUR GOD!!


BECAUSE THE SAME LOVE THAT GOD HAS

FOR ALL OF US.....

NOW ALSO DWELLS IN THE HEART OF

BELIEVERS !!!

And so...in conclusion Jeannie....

once more...

as
Children of God(filled with GOD'S LOVE now)...
we
become LIKE God...
but
we never desire to BECOME God!!

And once more ....

God didn't SAVE us,and make us to become LIKE God......

just for us to just be sitting around on lily white clouds,
doing
nothing for all ETERNITY!!!!

NO!!

ETERNITY WITH GOD IS NOT GONNA BE BORING!!!flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

WE ARE MADE TO BECOME LIKE GOD FOR A PURPOSE...

in fact,

part of that plan and purpose
God has for his children is...

they will be reigning and ruling WITH God .

There is A PLAN and PURPOSE
in
ALL GOD DOES....

and
that INCLUDES.......

GOD'S PLAN And PURPOSE
FOR
HIS CREATION(HUMANITY) TOO!!!!!


(Meaning....no ... we are NOT just created to be God's pets, Abra!!:heart:flowerforyou )



:heart::heart::heart:

cottonelle's photo
Mon 12/01/08 06:10 PM
i played god with a ant hill once, then i got bored and just destroyed it

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:05 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Mon 12/01/08 07:06 PM
Evidence That the Bible is God's Word:

Because It hits the nail right on the head concerning the sinfulness of mankind.


But this isn't true.

The vast majority of the people on Planet Earth are nice people. Not sinners at all.

This is where Christian fundamentalists are way out of line.

They are trying to claim that all humans are sinners just because the Bible says so. But the evidence just isn't there.

The vast majority of people you meet in this life are nice people and not sinners at all.

Fundamentalists will try to claim that "All have fallen short of the glory of God", because the Bible says that this is true.

But it's not true.

And that should clearly show you that the Bible then can't be true because it makes bogus claims about reality.

I was just warned that I've been reported for abuse in this thread. But I'm not going around telling eveyone that they are sinners and have fallen short of the glory of their creator.

As far as I'm concerned that's an abusive accusation to be slamming on people in the first place.

Christians may feel like they are unworthy of God, but there's no reason to try to push that idea onto everyone else.

There has never been a time in my life when I have turned against my creator or have ever been at odds with my creator.

If they bible claims that I'm at odds with my creator then clearly the Bible is wrong.

It's as simple as that.

I know better. flowers

I don't need some ancient mythology to tell me where I stand with my creator. I know where I stand with my creator. And I'm not at war with my creator, neither am I at odd with Her.

I think it's disgusting that Christians go around trying to convince everyone that they are at odds with their creator just because some book says that it's true.

Clearly the book does not contain the truth.

That should be obvious to anyone who knows that they are not at odds with their creator.

This proselytizing to get people to feel like they are at odds with God is extremely negative and serves no one any good.

It's a disgrace to both man and God. frown



martymark's photo
Mon 12/01/08 09:17 PM
Ya know, why is it that people are so wanting to put parameters around God that they have limited "God's Word" to what is in the Bible. Here are some words from God, that would make them Gods word, I guarantee it, I LOVE YOU!

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