His mom was an American therefore he is an American.

if you only read your own writing and thoughts you would realize how big an idiot you really sound like.you must be one of those fools that put bush in the white house and tried to screw this country "again" with mccain.what a pathetic loser!!!!!!! grow up and get a life!!

You are probably right. To bad you didn't post each bill in its entirety. John McCain voted against increasing funding for vets for 4 straight years. I would hope he did so because of add on's or the wording of it. If not he should be ASHAMED of himself

Mirror, my friend, we went through this before, just because a parent is an American citizen does NOT make the child an American....you MUST be born in the country to be an American...otherwise you are just of the parents' lineage, i.e. I was born in USA therefore I am an American....

My grandparents were born in Sweden....therefore I am of Swedish lineage, but NOT a Swedish citizen.......

Goodness......must I educate you on everything?

Lindyy

WHAT A HATEFUL, NASTY POST.....

Constructive posting would be appreciated.....
Edited by Lindyy on Mon 12/01/08 04:02 AM

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/184940

Everyone knows that it was because of the earmarks 'add ons' as you put it, that Senator McCain voted against certain bills.......

Thanks for asking, good questions.
It has been said better than I could say it, so I am going to do another copy/paste if you please----http://peoplespassions.org/documents/birth_certificate.htm

--in part--
So where does this leave us? Well for starters, it leaves many of us....some in tin foil hats, some not....wondering why the Obama campaign did not supply the definitive, actual, long-form birth certificate. Contentions are, because one such authentic certificate does not exist.

"That's a pretty distant plea, from the far right, wouldn't you say? I mean he couldn't have gotten this far without being properly vetted, right?" That is the assumption that most people are making. "This isn't possible. You're out of your mind. Get off the internet." People have made the assumption, but that's all they've made....the assumption. Fact: Senator Barack Obama is yet to provide an actual birth certificate to any governing or other body, validating his eligibility, per the United States Constitution, to have his name on the ballot as the next, prospective President of the United States of America.
--snip--In August, "nut job, tin foil-hat-wearing right wing conspiracy theorist", lifetime Democrat, former US District Attorney General for the State of Pennyslvania, Philip Berg, challenged Barack Obama in court - seeking to ultimately compel him to produce an actual birth certificate. After months of fighting this, and months of expending time, money and resources by the Obama campaign - the case was ultimately thrown out. "Well if the case was thrown out, it must mean it was baseless." Wrong again. The case was thrown out, not unlike the one against Ohio's SOS, Jennifer Brunner, due to the standing of the party that brought the case, to do so. There was no decision on merit. There was no ruling. There was only the citation that a citizen could not bring the charge. But still, the question remained, why did the Obama campaign, or rather, Barack Obama himself - who the case was brought against, not quell the charge entirely by simply producing an actual, authentic, long-form birth certificate....thereby validating his eligibility to be complicit with the United States Constitution, Section II, Article I, prove his natural born citizenship, and march comfortably through the rest of a fair, tested, and properly vetted election process? This time, I have no answer. Do you? Does he? Many of us are waiting.

He had plenty of time to manufacture and execute and incredible campaign. Outspending his opponent by estimates of up to 5 to 1, he certainly had resources. He did find time, amidst this very quiet and clearly extraordinarily tricky trial that the media mostly would not touch, due to the "nut job" nature of the theories - to go to the state in question, Hawaii, to visit his grandmother. When did he have time to make this trip? Not only at the tail end of the election, but coincidentally - at the tail end of the trial questioning his natural born citizenship, in fact only a few days after he and his attorneys watched the clock expire on the court-recognized demand by the Plaintiff to produce the document. But alas, no time or resources to actually hand a piece of paper over to the courts, the Board of Elections, the Federal Elections Commission or even the Democratic National Committee.

"Well Hank, that law in the Constitution is pretty minor compared to what Barack Obama will do for us as President." That's very, very questionable - to anyone who truly understands the nature of capitalism and/or national security. Actually, that's an unfair statement. I would say, in the opinions of many, many Americans - that's very questionable to those who believe they, or Senator Obama's opponent, better understand the nature of capitalism and/or national security, than does Senator Obama. So let's not ignore the Constitution entirely, just because potentially a little more than half of the voters believe he's the man for the job. After all, I may very well be considered able-minded to more responsibly and effectively spend $100,000.00 better than a bank or it's customers....but this doesn't give me the authority to go in and steal it.

Obama has not yet properly disclosed the one document that would remove all doubt, and properly vet him for the position he has pursued, by way of the trust of the American people and the millions and millions of dollars of contributions they have handed over to him, and his effort. He simply, has not yet done this.

He has given a less credible document to a website enabled and hosted by a foundation Barack Obama worked under, to provide advocacy on the issue. But that document authenticates the claim the same way hearsay ineffectively would support a defendant's testimony. It is still, one removed from the actual truth. No. In fact it's even less credible than that. The fact is, the contention of Philip Berg is that Barack Obama was actually born in Kenya, per a hospital record that allegedly exists there for Barack Hussein Obama II, as well as his paternal grandmothers proud citations of having been in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born. The document Senator Obama provided the website, per the Hawaii Department of Health, could be attained by someone who was not born in the United States. It's effectively moot. This is the Presidency of the United States of America. This is a matter of upholding a basic fundamental of the United States Constitution. These are bases of significant stature. I have seen many people get many passes, but this simply cannot be one of them. Whatever may or may not be done in the next 4-8 years, is entirely insignificant relative to what will happen to our process, and the indiscretion "We the people" allow to occur by affording someone the ability to cheat the American people on his way to the most powerful position on the entire planet.

He may not have known Bill Ayers was an unrepentant domestic terrorist when he sat in his living room and arguably launched his political career. He may have been 8 years old when Ayers committed these acts, but at 40 years old....he may not have heard him repeatedly declare that he was not remorseful for his terrorist behavior. It may have been coincidental that Ayers and Obama both gave interviews within a week of each other in September of 2001, where they each discussed the importance of the redistribution of wealth. He might really have slept through 20 years of Jeremiah Wright's sermons, never once hearing the race-filled propaganda and anti-American sentiments we all eventually caught wind of. Perhaps it slipped his mind when he claimed to have no ties to ACORN, that he led training sessions for them....or contributed over $800,000.00 to their umbrella for the 2008 election season. Maybe that's all true.

What part of "natural born citizenship" escaped him though? This one, I have to hear. And if it's an illegitimate question, then I would plead with Senator Obama to retain all the money he's expending fighting the multiple cases that have popped up across the country, once and for all provide proof of his natural born citizenship by way of an actual birth certificate, and....I don't know, maybe give what he would have spent on the trials to the middle class he is so concerned about.

Hank Rand
Lakewood, Ohio ---end copy---

Yes, please research this, alot. BUT, note, don't use google anymore when you want to find true and recent information on Obama.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/boycott-google-boycott-google/

--in part--

Google, the world’s number one search engine, is apparently adjusting its search engines to restrict access to anti-Obama information on the world wide web. I don’t know of a more intelligent, hard-working, ethical anti-Obama blogger than Atlas Shrugs. If Google is disappearing Pamela’s work, it’s flagrant political content-based censorship. Welcome to Obama’s Regime. And they say he’s a “liberal?”

Read Pam’s report here. It’s shocking and disturbing. But not surprising, in that Google CEO Eric Schmidt is reportedly in line to be Obama’s chief Tech Advisor
--end copy--


On Dec 5 the Supreme Court will either allow or disallow the usurpation of both the Constitution and the Government of the United States — easily the most pivotal decision since our nation’s founding — and the silence of the news media is deafening (if not downright scary).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH7rSHcvgU

VIA WeThePeople Running December 1st and 3rd will be full page ads in the Chicago Tribune asking Obama to produce his vault copy birth certificate, "Open Letter" to Mr. Obama

http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/Obama-USA-TODAY-ad.htm

Sign the petition at

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/

---Agreed, all that "allowed this to happen" should be held accountable. BB

wrong again

Citizenship is one of the most coveted gifts that the U.S. government can bestow, and the most important immigration benefit that USCIS can grant. Most people become U.S. citizens in one of two ways:

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By birth, either within the territory of the United States or to U.S. citizen parents, or
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By Naturalizatio


http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=
96719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=96719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD



what part of




By birth

either within the territory of the United States

or

to U.S. citizen parents



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Goodness......must I educate you on everything?

DON'T GET OFFENDED PLEASE, BUT I HAVE TO SAY THIS... HOW STUPID DO YOU NEED TO BE TO BELIVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.???... I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THINGS WORK... THERE IS RULES AND STEPS TO FOLLOW IN EVERITHING WE NEED TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO ENROLLE YOURSELF WITH STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERMENT, OR EVEN PAPER TO FILL OUT TO GET A MEMBERSHIP AT ANY ORGANISATION... TRY GOING TO THE DMV, AND TELL THEM YOU NEED A DRIVERS LICENS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROOF OF IDENTITY THEY ESK YOU FOR (IN ALMOS EVERY STATE TWO PICES OF I.D. WITH PICTURE AND A ADDRES PROFF)... THEN LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY TELL YOU... DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIVE TO BE POSIBLE FOR ANYONE (NOT ONLY OBAMA) TO STEP ON A APLICATION TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WITHOUT THE REQUAIRED DOCUMENTATION... AND IF IT IS POSIBLE, DON'T YOU THINK THAT MAYBE HILLARY OR MCCAIN,WOULD HAVE STEP ON THAT LIKE A CAT ON A MOUSE... I DON'T MEAN TO INSULT ANYONE BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME EASIER TO BELIVE ALL THIS TO BE A DESPERATE MOVE (DIFAMATION) FOR SOME SMALL SORE LOSERS THAT CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT OF BARACK OBAMA BEEING THE PRESIDENT OF THIS CONTRY... JUST THINK OF IT, REALLY THINK OF IT AND TELL ME IF ANY OF THIS SOUND LOGIC OR NOT... XoXoX...

Prove the tape is "made up".

DOGPILE? And you criticize posters who use Google?

OH, just what is it about copying and pasting that you do not like? It is providing the facts with which one has formed an opinion......

There you go again. You HAVE NEVER HEARD ME CRITIZES ANYONE WHO USES GOOGLE.(You should thalk to OP) PROVE IT SHOW ME THE POSTS. PROVE THE TAPE IS REAL..WOA!!!! YOU CANT!!!!!!!!! 20years experience??

I was talking to Mirror and being silly.....geez....

You are so right AJ...People will believe anything they read on here without checking the facts. Autheniticity is a word some people dont seem to comprehend..