Topic: Do child molesters go to hell? | |
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To start off, I don't believe in child mols, it is not right, but
in the chirstian view of things, If he made the sinners prayer, he is in heaven. When Jesus saves a person, they are not only saved for thier past sins, but also for the sins that they haven't done yet. If that is not true, then none is saved at all. Because the death was for the past, preasent, and future sins of all. We are in the future. That is Gods promise in His Son, and His greatest gift. If you belive that even a Mol should go to hell, then that's a reason to think that you should to, because Jesus was sent to earth to save the sinners, the Gentiles, not the Jews. It's the blood line not just the indivuals wrong and very bad immoral decisions that they make. Sure it's not right, but we all do wrongs. Orangially we were all going to hell. A sin is a sin. I am not a Mol. It's not right. But would killing the child be worse? I think not. Mankind puts the different degrees of sin on the table to make themselves feel better about the sins that they have commited. There is no worse sin or better sin, They are all bad. Does that make it right? Hell No. |
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actually will ifeel comfortable around murderers, it's the rapists and
child molesters that i rather not sit next too. |
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True. But the point is that It is all just a definition To make us
feel more comfortable about ourselves and our own sins. We should not 'feel' different about other peoples different variations of sins. For all sin and fall short. Does that make it right? Hell no. |
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I can feel the conflict you're going thru. As Stevie Wonder
and Paul McCartney once sang, "There is good and bad in everone" People are multi-dimensional. There no person who is all good or all bad. However, there is something called accountability and conscience. This man had to know that what he was doing was wrong. He had the ability to seek out help so he could stop what he was doing. He chose to keep on doing it. He created his own Hell on Earth. When Jesus was on the cross he was crucified along with two murderers. One mocked him, the other said (paraphrasing) take me to where you're going. Jesus said OK. If this man accepted Christ as his saviour and asked forgiveness of his sins the man would indeed get to Heaven. Jeffrey Dahmer, a child molester/serial killer got accepted Christ while in prison. He got murdered himself there. I believe that Jeffrey Dahmer is in Heaven so it is possible that this man is in Heaven. However, there is also a chance this man did not accept Christ as his saviour and did not ask forgiveness for his sins and may very well be in Hell. It's not up to me to judge this guy, just giving you my opinions. |
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Great opinion Jim. Good input. More people need to think about this
and the evils that 'men' do. |
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my lil bro was molested........i swear had the chance to do something i
would have i believe it to be the worst kind of evil praying on innocent children in the words of my favorite sunday comic strip garfeild people like that should be drug out in the street and shot |
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i agree with honey .......cut their pee wee out. and about their souls
going to hell I think is straight to hell no stops and no mercy.......unless they really are sorry, but if I were God I will not forget this things, because they are not human beings. Childrens are precious and God greatest gift to any woman, not all if us our that lucky to received this gift from God. I don't know what I would do to one of this bastard if they would touch a child of mind, I guess will have to forgive me for killing and helping the world get rid of so much evil. |
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i forgot where it happened at but there was a story on the news about a
molester who was sent to prison and they found him the other day and the other prisoners had forcibly inked the little girls name to his forehead in very large letters. |
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If christ forgives him then thats all fine and dandy but I think that
all of those sick fucks should be taken to the back of the shed n put two in their heads! kill 'em all n let god sort 'em out I say! |
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ok..here we go, I KNOW I'm gonna catch some flak for this BUT, the fact
of the matter is..these ppl aren't criminals in the standard sense of the word..for most of them it's a form of mental illness, the reason we get so shocked and appalled is because they go after children...many of them know what they are doing is sick and want to stop, but they CAN'T. It's really not much different than a schizophrenic going on a killing spree because the voices in his/her head told them to. I'll cite a recent example here in Canada. A convicted pedophile begged the court, as part of his sentence, to chemically castrate him. He admitted in an almost pleading voice that he was sick and needed help and that incarceration alone was NOT going to prevent him from offending again. He wasn't trying to get out of his sentence, but he knew that without some sort of medical intervention, once he was out, it was only a matter of time before he re-offended..the court turned down his request. And guess what, he ended up killing himself once he was released. Now I'm sure not saying all pedophiles are that self aware, there are those out there that are just plain preditory in nature and don't care who they hurt, but those ppl are more socio-psychopathic personalities. But if they are truly aware they are sick and want the help, we as a society should not turn our backs on them..God wouldn't. Now having said that, I sure know why ppl get so angry and hateful about this crime because it IS so thouroughly reprehensible and makes you want to seek retribution, especially if someone close to you is/was affected by it. Lord knows that if someone molested one of my kids, they'd better fkin hope the cops got to them before I did!!! |
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i understand what you are saying animal but don't you think that they
should try to resist those temptations and try to do everything they can to keep it from happening? it is their responsibility to deal with it and if they don't ask for help and go do it anyway it doesn't look like they are trying that hard. the kinds of people that you mentioned in your comment need help and they should be given the help but what about the people who don't seek treatment and don't resist but enjoy what they are doing. i don't know of anybody who would excuse someone with a mental illness for going on a killing spree. they end up ostrcized and in prison just like they do. |
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That's part of the problem King, at least in Canada. There is a viable
alternative such as chemical castration but in this country it appears it's NOT an option that is given to them. As for the ones that have no remorse and/or think there's nothing wrong with what they're doing..let em burn in hell and suffer the torment in prison before they go, and if God ends up forgiving them for whatever reason..well that's between them and God. As for the example I cited about the guy up here, he finally did do something about it, he made sure he was never a threat to any child again, please don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to excuse their behaviour by any stretch of the imagination. But again on the one hand, the law claims it to be a crime, and on the other hand you have an organization called NAMBLA ( North American Man/Boy Love Association) which is a LEGAL organization. How can we trust a gov't that says if you act alone your a criminal but if yer in an "organization" that does this shit, it's perfectly acceptable? Even some legal organized religions on this continent engage in adult/child sex as part of their "religious rights".And it's not just men with young girls, but women with young boys...it's fucked..why is this the only crime, that's when it's organized, all of a sudden becomes legal? |
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i wasn't taking it the wrong way animal, i happen to agree with what you
were saying. they don't have the chemical castration here in the US but i think that they should have it available. as far as the nambla thing, you are right. i don't understand that either and any organization that is based off something that is considered a criminal act should not be allowed to organize. there are loop holes through free speach and other things that protect them but i don't think they should be allowed to operate. i hope they are not a tax free institution. |
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I bet the religions are tax exempt
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that's what i was talking about and some of the rights groups are also
tax exempt. |
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that is just sooooo fucked..and ppl wonder why society is so messed up
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