The poor kid was crying out for help otherwise he would not have done it in such a public manner. People who are driven to suicide be it mental or becuase of their circumstances are not doing it for attention. If someone is talking about killing themselves, TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. Five years ago i started having seizures and my diabetes got so unmanagable i could not take care of myself anymore. Then all at once my life was destroyed,I had an insulin reaction and ended up hospitalized for a month.My fiance couldn't handle it and left me and when i got of the hospital all i had was a bag of clothes, eviction notice, dear john letter, $1200 in medication and medical bills and the news that my employers no longer needed me. So i spent the next six months on the streets, sleeping in a cemetary in downtown KC becuase homeless shelters don't take people with health conditions and tell you to go to the hospital. News flash, you cant sleep in a hospital emergeceny room 30 minutes before security asks you to leave or they will have you escorted out for loitering. So there i was jobless,homeless, broke and wasting away on the streets. Government,family,friends and average people refused or said they could not help. I got to the point i realised no one cared what happened to me and that it was only a matter of time. I tryed to kill myself six times. In each case i would have succeded if not for some quirks of fate intervening. Regular people, strangers and people who certainly had more important things to do would find me as i was dying and go get help. To this day i can't thank them enough for saving me.
To all those who would have done nothing take a good look at yourselves and ask if i was dying and had no hope would i have needed someones help. There is an old axiom: Evil happens becuase good men do nothing.

thnx for that Maikuru,

i have had similiar things happen to me also when much younger, though not the health problems that led you there.

though it never led to me actually taking my life, i would be a liar if i said the thoughts didn't cross my mind at those times.

your input is appreciated alot.

I heard about this on the Bill Handel show this morning. The father is calling for the viewers and site owners to be held responsible, however, that's not going to happen. It's not a crime of any sort to NOT report something. You can watch a crime or suicide all day long and you are not required to report it. However, I am still wondering about the people who encouraged this guy. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

thnx for the one up Ruth, i'll try to stay up on it if i can - if not maybe you can post things you see/hear - it would be interesting to find out what happens in the end.

I will.

Here are my thoughts on this . . . .


Many times people will take pills then call a friend. There are many reasons people do things, but it always has relevance.


If someone wants to off themselves, with as close as possible to a 100% success rate, they do not use pills and they do not tell anyone.


If someone feels alone in this world, and thinks that no one cares . . . they may eat a bunch of pills then call someone . . . . or in this case, get on a live web cam and announce there intentions.


I would have tried to get the man help. To me it was clear he was asking for help.

Maybe I am wrong . . . . But you cannot know now.
Right on! I am glad you are still with us, and that life has come around. Your story moved me, 10 years ago I would not have understood.

I use to never think about death, or suicide and it use to never occur to me why people would do this . . . . and sometimes life really throws a curve ball.
Constant pain, no hope, no help, no one cares . . . . it adds up . . I understand, NOW I understand, didn't use to, but now I do.

8 years of constant pain was almost enough. Your never the best person to make life or death decisions when you are there in it up to your eyes.

<quote> Right on! I am glad you are still with us, and that life has come around. Your story moved me, 10 years ago I would not have understood.

I use to never think about death, or suicide and it use to never occur to me why people would do this . . . . and sometimes life really throws a curve ball.
Constant pain, no hope, no help, no one cares . . . . it adds up . . I understand, NOW I understand, didn't use to, but now I do.

8 years of constant pain was almost enough. Your never the best person to make life or death decisions when you are there in it up to your eyes.<quote>

Your right jeremy when things get that bad, your not in any position to help yourself much less make an intelligent decision. Desperate times make people desperate and do desperate things. Its human nature. My hope is that people care enough to help others out of such times.

Good post. Good thread, we should all take this to heart.

thnks guys for your input.

Thanks for your moving and deeply personal post.

Maikuru I am glad you are with us. Maybe part of your purpose was to share your story with all of us.

Be well. HUGS