Name an ability and maybe we can devise a test. It is not hard to make a test if something has an effect.

Of the three paranormal effects I listed each can have a test.

I urge anyone with psychic abilities to practice up and go register to win a million dollars. Any kind of paranormal anything, anything that science scoffs at, roll up your sleeves and show us you can do et! Do et for me! Because I want to learn to speak to trees is why.

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

Really? If you have no idea what I am talking about, then why do you continue to bring it up? Or is that your way of saying that you intend to let it go? If so, thank you.

Perhaps there is a misunderstanding between us concerning what constitutes a "long time ago".

What I have been referring to recently was what had been said recently, in the religion forum amidst the correspondence in my last thread.

From now on, I will attempt to consciously remember to highlight the sections of your responses to me which I feel are of a personal nature and do not address the topic at hand but rather the author. The goal being to remove ant uncertainty of the nature of our posts...

That sounds fair to me...

Thanks for answering my question Bushido

Please do, because to the best of my memory it was you who got personal before I did. In fact, I don't even know what post you are referring to now. So by all means point it out to me.

In the past I responded to one of your posts and you mentioned that I was responding to "the author" in a personal manner, rather than the topic and I did not think I was at all. Perhaps I missed something. I thought you just assumed such, because I never intended it that way.

No, it was me that was confused. I misunderstood the meaning of “ego” and hence used it incorrectly. There is nothing in Freud’s model of the psyche that corresponds to what I mean. And there is nothing in the materialistic “brain is mind and mind creates self” model that corresponds to what I mean either. And the words “spirit” implies a form of some sort, which is not what I mean. And the word “soul” always implies a “component” or a “possession”, which doesn’t work either. The word “self” is the most accurate I can come up with. So replace “ego” with “self” in that paragraph and you’ll have the most accurate translation I can come up with.

Likewise “satisfaction” has unavoidable connotations that I do not know how to get around when faced with an interpretation that believes it to be of a deterministic nature. You may substitute “goals” or “purposes” or “intentions” if you like. All those words relate to what I mean in a similar fashion. They all denote some sort of achievement or attainment or “motion toward a specific future situation”. Pick whichever one you want.

And if you see a contradiction in the resulting interpretations of free will and what I said, all I can say is that it is in your interpretation, not in my intention, and I will offer an apology for the misunderstanding in advance because, as I said, I literally do not have the words to describe what I mean. They have been very completely and comprehensively defined away.

Now if I were to make up a new word, as Billy suggested to JB a while back, I think would use NPE (acronym for “Non-Physical Entity”). If you wish to substitute that for “ego” in my statement, you may do so. It is exactly what I mean because I have assigned my meaning to it.

Now considering what I have learned today, I do not expect there to be much, if any, understanding of the meaning of that word by you, Billy, Nathan, River, and others, because it is contrary to almost everything science has conjectured about life, individuality, consciousness and perception.

But as I’ve said several times before in different ways, the bottom line is that the concept satisfies my criteria for explaining phenomena I have observed, where as the conventional scientific conjectures do not.

Brain-type series. The one physical uniformity of mortals is the brain and nervous system; nevertheless, there are three basic organizations of the brain mechanism: the one-, the two-, and the three-brained types. Urantians are of the two-brained type, somewhat more imaginative, adventurous, and philosophical than the one-brained mortals but somewhat less spiritual, ethical, and worshipful than the three-brained orders. These brain differences characterize even the prehuman animal existences.

From the two-hemisphere type of the Urantian cerebral cortex you can, by analogy, grasp something of the one-brained type. The third brain of the three-brained orders is best conceived as an evolvement of your lower or rudimentary form of brain, which is developed to the point where it functions chiefly in control of physical activities, leaving the two superior brains free for higher engagements: one for intellectual functions and the other for the spiritual-counterparting activities of the Thought Adjuster.

While the terrestrial attainments of the one-brained races are slightly limited in comparison with the two-brained orders, the older planets of the three-brained group exhibit civilizations that would astound Urantians, and which would somewhat shame yours by comparison. In mechanical development and material civilization, even in intellectual progress, the two-brained mortal worlds are able to equal the three-brained spheres. But in the higher control of mind and development of intellectual and spiritual reciprocation, you are somewhat inferior.

All such comparative estimates concerning the intellectual progress or the spiritual attainments of any world or group of worlds should in fairness recognize planetary age; much, very much, depends on age, the help of the biologic uplifters, and the subsequent missions of the various orders of the divine Sons.

While the three-brained peoples are capable of a slightly higher planetary evolution than either the one- or two-brained orders, all have the same type of life plasm and carry on planetary activities in very similar ways, much as do human beings on Urantia. These three types of mortals are distributed throughout the worlds of the local systems. In the majority of cases planetary conditions had very little to do with the decisions of the Life Carriers to project these varied orders of mortals on the different worlds; it is a prerogative of the Life Carriers thus to plan and execute.

These three orders stand on an equal footing in the ascension career. Each must traverse the same intellectual scale of development, and each must master the same spiritual tests of progression. The system administration and the constellation overcontrol of these different worlds are uniformly free from discrimination; even the regimes of the Planetary Princes are identical.

http://www.urantia.org/papers/index.html

Mirror, are you reading much of Urantia or just searching it? Its quite an amazing work of.... I don't know what it is. Propaganda or fiction.? If so, I haven't quite made up my mind about the purpose (or agenda) of that book.

I think its agenda might be to replace the Bible for Christianity.

What your post is saying is that earthers (humans) are the two brained type. That would be the two hemispheres of our brains.(Probably)

Urantians are earth humans. (Or people who live on the earth.)

you can be mindless with a brain...
but you can't be brainless with a mind...

Is that your opinion or do you have scientific data to back that up?

"Dain Brammage" has always been my biggust feer!!

I'm more afraid of Dind Mammage than Dain Brammage.

Thanks for clarifying that for me Jeanniebean, and yes I have been reading the Urantia for many months.Since you told me about it. Yes, its kinda like a "bible". A galactic bible.