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Topic: No Kill Animal Sanctuary
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Mon 11/17/08 10:33 PM
love Myself and two friends are trying to start a NO Kill animal sanctuary here in the great Pacific Northwest. Anyone got any advice? And if your at all willing to join the No Kill movement and help clear the name of "bully Breeds" just send a message and a lil prayer!! Thanks!! Oh and if you can help that is awesome too!!!

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Mon 11/17/08 11:32 PM
You will need sponsours to help feed those animals. Also cat toys, litter, dog toys etc......flowerforyou

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Mon 11/17/08 11:36 PM
You'll need your own sob story to talk people into it

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Mon 11/17/08 11:37 PM

You'll need your own sob story to talk people into it

Ummm... Okay, you want to write it for me?

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Mon 11/17/08 11:37 PM
i JUST show people my boobs!!!devil noway laugh

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Mon 11/17/08 11:39 PM
I'm not at all familiar with what you call it...is this just a basic animal sanctuary? For wild animals? This could take a lot of work if this is your aim, you would need property (quite a bit of it) and I'm pretty sure some sort of license (par your state requirements, so maybe not).

Or are you throwing domesticated animals into a forest? That would be abandonment, so I probably wouldn't go that way if I were you.

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Mon 11/17/08 11:39 PM
Ummm... Okay, you want to write it for me?







Why did I open my mouth?!frustrated



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Mon 11/17/08 11:44 PM

I'm not at all familiar with what you call it...is this just a basic animal sanctuary? For wild animals? This could take a lot of work if this is your aim, you would need property (quite a bit of it) and I'm pretty sure some sort of license (par your state requirements, so maybe not).

Or are you throwing domesticated animals into a forest? That would be abandonment, so I probably wouldn't go that way if I were you.


I admit that wasn't all that clear, no not wild animals, well maybe in the future, bot for now domesticated animals dogs cats horses cows goats.. Too many animals are euthanized for no good reason, and pitbulls are not at all dangerous if raised right..

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Mon 11/17/08 11:46 PM
Link killing domestic animals to global warming

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Mon 11/17/08 11:47 PM


I'm not at all familiar with what you call it...is this just a basic animal sanctuary? For wild animals? This could take a lot of work if this is your aim, you would need property (quite a bit of it) and I'm pretty sure some sort of license (par your state requirements, so maybe not).

Or are you throwing domesticated animals into a forest? That would be abandonment, so I probably wouldn't go that way if I were you.


I admit that wasn't all that clear, no not wild animals, well maybe in the future, bot for now domesticated animals dogs cats horses cows goats.. Too many animals are euthanized for no good reason, and pitbulls are not at all dangerous if raised right..


Ah, so you are talking about a ranch type setup? That would be cheaper, but you would probably still have to go through a lot of paperwork. My advice is to talk to people that already have something like that set-up to get an idea of what to look forward too...and advice on top of that! Best of luck to you, domestic animals are taught...and with patience can be re-taught!flowerforyou

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Mon 11/17/08 11:49 PM
http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/startsanc.pdf

Found this with a google search, look around online and in your area for tips and information on the process in your city/state.

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Mon 11/17/08 11:54 PM

Link killing domestic animals to global warming


That is why you are a genius!!

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Mon 11/17/08 11:56 PM

http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/startsanc.pdf

Found this with a google search, look around online and in your area for tips and information on the process in your city/state.


I don't have to even look at the website to know what that is!! We are taking a road trip there this spring to spend a few days learning their ways. As well as Villa Lobos....

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Mon 11/17/08 11:57 PM


http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/startsanc.pdf

Found this with a google search, look around online and in your area for tips and information on the process in your city/state.


I don't have to even look at the website to know what that is!! We are taking a road trip there this spring to spend a few days learning their ways. As well as Villa Lobos....


You should get a lot of information from that alone, so that should definatly set you up in the right direction. Best of luck to you on this, it is a fantastic idea!flowerforyou

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Mon 11/17/08 11:59 PM

Too many animals are euthanized for no good reason, and pitbulls are not at all dangerous if raised right..


Pitbulls are adorable! I am totally going to adopt one when I get out of vet school. My family has watched a few for Stray Rescue of St. Louis and they were the most lovable dogs. They're not monsters at all, unless some prick makes them that way. My roommate is so against them because one drowned her grandma's little yipey Yorkie. Yorkie's are cute, but I want a real dog... one that can bark instead of sounding like a squeaky toy. I can't seem to get it through her head that that could have been any dog that got her grandma's dog, but she insists the only reason that dog attacked was because it was a pitbull. And she thinks they're ugly. It pisses me off to no end. It almost makes me want to adopt a pit for next school year since I can have a dog, maybe she won't bring her stupid little chiuahuah with her then, in fear that my dog with eat it for breakfast, lol. I'm not a fan of little dogs. And banning pits just ticks me off even more! Seriously, it's like discriminating against people of different races. The dogs didn't do anything wrong, it's the jerks who give them the wrong image. I wrote a paper about pits, it's a touchy subject with me.

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Tue 11/18/08 12:00 AM
Best Friends and Villa Lobos are actually our inspiration for the Sanctuary. Best Friends is the place that took many of Micheal Vicks pitties.

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Tue 11/18/08 12:03 AM

Best Friends and Villa Lobos are actually our inspiration for the Sanctuary. Best Friends is the place that took many of Micheal Vicks pitties.


That is why I posted the link, they have done incredible things with Vick's dogs so far and are continuing the process.

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Tue 11/18/08 12:03 AM


Too many animals are euthanized for no good reason, and pitbulls are not at all dangerous if raised right..


Pitbulls are adorable! I am totally going to adopt one when I get out of vet school. My family has watched a few for Stray Rescue of St. Louis and they were the most lovable dogs. They're not monsters at all, unless some prick makes them that way. My roommate is so against them because one drowned her grandma's little yipey Yorkie. Yorkie's are cute, but I want a real dog... one that can bark instead of sounding like a squeaky toy. I can't seem to get it through her head that that could have been any dog that got her grandma's dog, but she insists the only reason that dog attacked was because it was a pitbull. And she thinks they're ugly. It pisses me off to no end. It almost makes me want to adopt a pit for next school year since I can have a dog, maybe she won't bring her stupid little chiuahuah with her then, in fear that my dog with eat it for breakfast, lol. I'm not a fan of little dogs. And banning pits just ticks me off even more! Seriously, it's like discriminating against people of different races. The dogs didn't do anything wrong, it's the jerks who give them the wrong image. I wrote a paper about pits, it's a touchy subject with me.


Currently in Denver Colorado the police have murdered 1200 Pitbulls or dogs with Pitbull Charictaristics. This is wrong, they are going door to door and removing these animals from peoples homes for no good reason!!! This has to stop, more people need to stand up and fight!! If a cop came to the door and tried to kill my Pit/Akita mix, they would have to shoot about three people first, including my 83 yr old grandfather...

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Tue 11/18/08 12:05 AM
Edited by littleredhen on Tue 11/18/08 12:09 AM
1st I want to say you have a very noble idea,& I wish you the best of luck.

How much land to you own & how much money do you have?

How many animals do you plan on housing & do you know the housing & care requirements of each?

Do you know the manhours involved for caring for the animals you plan to house?

Do you know the laws reguarding kennels & livestock in your community? If you plan on adopting out the "bully breeds" are you aware of the liabilities you could face if one harms a person?

As a former shelter worker I know things are not so simple. In a perfect world there would be no need for euthanisia but I have had to do it.

Our shelter had 3 full time & 2 part time kennel workers caring for over 100 animals daily. That is 340 man hours a week just for basic care. This does not include management, animal control officers, office workers or volunteers.

We took in aproximatly 3,000 animals a year & the adoption rate was about 15%. Remember we only had room for 100 at a time. The math is horrible but unavoidable.




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Tue 11/18/08 12:09 AM



Too many animals are euthanized for no good reason, and pitbulls are not at all dangerous if raised right..


Pitbulls are adorable! I am totally going to adopt one when I get out of vet school. My family has watched a few for Stray Rescue of St. Louis and they were the most lovable dogs. They're not monsters at all, unless some prick makes them that way. My roommate is so against them because one drowned her grandma's little yipey Yorkie. Yorkie's are cute, but I want a real dog... one that can bark instead of sounding like a squeaky toy. I can't seem to get it through her head that that could have been any dog that got her grandma's dog, but she insists the only reason that dog attacked was because it was a pitbull. And she thinks they're ugly. It pisses me off to no end. It almost makes me want to adopt a pit for next school year since I can have a dog, maybe she won't bring her stupid little chiuahuah with her then, in fear that my dog with eat it for breakfast, lol. I'm not a fan of little dogs. And banning pits just ticks me off even more! Seriously, it's like discriminating against people of different races. The dogs didn't do anything wrong, it's the jerks who give them the wrong image. I wrote a paper about pits, it's a touchy subject with me.


Currently in Denver Colorado the police have murdered 1200 Pitbulls or dogs with Pitbull Charictaristics. This is wrong, they are going door to door and removing these animals from peoples homes for no good reason!!! This has to stop, more people need to stand up and fight!! If a cop came to the door and tried to kill my Pit/Akita mix, they would have to shoot about three people first, including my 83 yr old grandfather...


The time & resources would be better spent going after the people who train & fight dogs!

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