Topic: pregnant man pregant again
Winx's photo
Thu 11/13/08 12:46 PM
Edited by Winx on Thu 11/13/08 12:55 PM
Wish I had more than one.:cry:



snarkytwain's photo
Thu 11/13/08 12:55 PM

Will the children grow up in a normal child hood? I don't think so. They'll have to grow some pretty thick skin to endure the beatings and teasing they'll have to take. That, in itself, is sad.


Someone always has to come first when change comes about. When that change is important to the joy and welfare of humankind, it's worth it.

And yes, I have precedent to say so.

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Thu 11/13/08 12:56 PM
it's just too much for me to think it's ok

Lightitup's photo
Thu 11/13/08 01:01 PM

No not poor kids, Poor person. Beatie is obviously really confused. One of my best friends is transgender, I knew her when she was still Peter (not a joke)Imagine not feeling right in your own skin. Its terrible and sad and frustrating. I have seen how hard it is to be ridiculed and made fun of. To loose jobs and friends for being who you are. I pray Beatie finds his/herself, what ever gender.


I forgot to mention my friend has a 10 year old, that lives with her. Her kid still calls her dad and I must say it wasnt easy to adjust, for anyone. But the kid isnt messed up and understands it better than most adults. These kids are going to grow up with their mom/dad being this way. Alot different then it happening when your 5 years old and Daddy comes home with boobs. I say Beatie's kids will do fine, as long as Beatie is honest with them. And screw ignorant people who cant see past their pointy little nose. America is changing, Gay couples are adopting and having children now, and there is nothing anyone can do. So instead of fighting it, flow with it. You can have your opinions, but dont hate something just cause you dont understand it.

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Thu 11/13/08 01:05 PM
i never said i hated it...
i said it was too much...too different and that is why i think the kids will have a tough time
yes, gay couples IS more widely accepted...but when you have a father figure giving birth...
i hope you're right...i really do.

do they live in a big city? does anyone know?

Lightitup's photo
Thu 11/13/08 01:14 PM

i never said i hated it...
i said it was too much...too different and that is why i think the kids will have a tough time
yes, gay couples IS more widely accepted...but when you have a father figure giving birth...
i hope you're right...i really do.

do they live in a big city? does anyone know?

I wasnt talking specifically to you. It is a hard consept to grasp. I can appreciate that, it was hard for me to grasp too.

Queene123's photo
Thu 11/13/08 01:41 PM


i never said i hated it...
i said it was too much...too different and that is why i think the kids will have a tough time
yes, gay couples IS more widely accepted...but when you have a father figure giving birth...
i hope you're right...i really do.

do they live in a big city? does anyone know?

I wasnt talking specifically to you. It is a hard consept to grasp. I can appreciate that, it was hard for me to grasp too.


thomas and his wife live in bend oregon. so yea i would say its pretty much of a big city

Lynann's photo
Thu 11/13/08 01:46 PM
Kids are mean little bastards more than we would like to think.

Even in schools where everyone is similar in appearance, background and financial status kids are tormented about their names, the color of their hair, freckles, what their parents do...basically anything is fair game.

Adults are suppose be more respectful and mature and put aside childish hateful games. Sadly many do not.

Real life seldom fits into safe little modes.

Seriously, I think maybe 5% of adults out in the world had perfectly adjusted normal Beaver Cleaver family lives and that number might be high.

I beleive this family is located in the northwest. Seattle comes to mind but I might be wrong.

papersmile's photo
Thu 11/13/08 01:47 PM

Poor kids?

These children are loved and wanted.

Plenty of straight people squeeze out multiple children they never wanted or care for. Those are poor children.




maybe so.

but if you really cared about your children, wouldn't you want them to live a life of normalcy, or as close to as possible?

so why go to the media to 'tell your story' and subject the child to the attention?

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Thu 11/13/08 01:50 PM
exactly...
most people aren't going to say ...awe wow...they were able to have the babies they've always wanted....awe wow....how lucky are they?

most people are going to think of The Big Red Top and the kids are going to hear the blunt of it

Lynann's photo
Thu 11/13/08 01:58 PM
My life wasn't normal growing up and I am damned glad.

It made me strong, independent, able to think on my feet and inquisitive.

We are human beings not sheep.

Little cookie cutter lives are normal for some I suppose but I am glad they aren't for me.

These children are loved and wanted!! They were created in love by people who wanted to make a family.

To me that simple conscious choice, the choice to create and nurture a new life, is nothing short of amazing and wonderful.

Children are miracles. Each one a unique and special little stranger who carries great promise for the future. That family has my best wishes. They need it with all the hate in the world.


papersmile's photo
Thu 11/13/08 02:02 PM
Edited by papersmile on Thu 11/13/08 02:07 PM


fair enough.

but was your mother born a female, had a sex change, but still longed to conceive, and was on the front page of major tabloids and on the news at 6:00? there's not normal and then there's NOT normal.

i have nothing - at all - against transsexuals. in fact, i feel much empathy for the turmoil they must suffer their entire lives, perhaps even after the surgery, and i don't begrudge the female turned male from wanting, and having, children of her own.

however, i stand by my opinion that it is a parent who truly wants to be a mother who shields their child from as much pain and ridicule as she possibly can. i'm not talking about just sheltering them here, this is a major issue.

personally, i think the couple wants the attention, perhaps even above their wanting a child.

snarkytwain's photo
Thu 11/13/08 02:04 PM


Poor kids?

These children are loved and wanted.

Plenty of straight people squeeze out multiple children they never wanted or care for. Those are poor children.




maybe so.

but if you really cared about your children, wouldn't you want them to live a life of normalcy, or as close to as possible?

so why go to the media to 'tell your story' and subject the child to the attention?


Normalcy is towing the line. Stepfordization of society. Lemmings falling off cliffs they don't know are there. Blind followers. Robots.

Normalcy is the very FURTHEST thing I want for my children.

exactly...
most people aren't going to say ...awe wow...they were able to have the babies they've always wanted....awe wow....how lucky are they?

most people are going to think of The Big Red Top and the kids are going to hear the blunt of it


Most people are morons.

I went through hell in school. Teased, ridiculed, beaten up, hated. All because I was a little different than the others. Not physically, not even mostly mentally. Just... different. And they could sense it. I grew up a stronger person for it, and proud to be who I am -- not part of the pack of viscious lemming robots that those kids were and became.

All the greatest people from history have been different. Nobody who ever made a change for the better for mankind has ever been normal. Nobody. I charge you to find one who was.

Tromette's photo
Thu 11/13/08 02:04 PM

noway This he/she/it needs to make up his/her/it's mind what he/she/it wants to be.. noway


Obviously he/she wants to be a boy who can have babies.

Queene123's photo
Thu 11/13/08 02:40 PM

Kids are mean little bastards more than we would like to think.

Even in schools where everyone is similar in appearance, background and financial status kids are tormented about their names, the color of their hair, freckles, what their parents do...basically anything is fair game.

Adults are suppose be more respectful and mature and put aside childish hateful games. Sadly many do not.

Real life seldom fits into safe little modes.

Seriously, I think maybe 5% of adults out in the world had perfectly adjusted normal Beaver Cleaver family lives and that number might be high.

I beleive this family is located in the northwest. Seattle comes to mind but I might be wrong.


BEND OREGON!! not Seattle

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Fri 11/14/08 10:59 AM
you can wear a fur coat and crap in a litter box but it doesnt make a cat

this is not a man having a baby. It's just a women who has had lots of surgeries

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Fri 11/14/08 11:08 AM

I was thinking that he was having them too close together.

I wouldn't want to be pregnant that quickly, if I had a choice.


I was thinking that too Winx, that's hard on a ummm ....person's body. I suspect it's because of the hormone therapy, if this ummmmmm person has the child bearing done quickly said person can go back to hormone treatment. I cannot call someone with a uterus a man.

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Fri 11/14/08 11:11 AM
Edited by littleredhen on Fri 11/14/08 11:21 AM

you can wear a fur coat and crap in a litter box but it doesnt make a cat

this is not a man having a baby. It's just a women who has had lots of surgeries


I agree. This person has been legally declared male, & while I defend the right for him/her to live as he/she chooses, 2 X chomosones & a uterus = woman to me.

Beezy47909's photo
Fri 11/14/08 11:12 AM
how da hell he do that and why he do that?

Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/14/08 11:22 AM

how da hell he do that and why he do that?


men play the game...and...women know the score...actually...I have no fuggin clue how or why...:smile: