Topic: Pastor Ted blames everyone except himself
snarkytwain's photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:31 AM
It has nothing to do with his mistakes. We all make them and God knows they often come from deep-seeded issues none of us have the right to judge.

It has everything to do with his own hypocracy. How many people did he condemn for the very same thing? How many people did he call sinners, did he despise in his mind and on his pulpit? How many people? He wants mercy he never gave.

Lynann's photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:34 AM
Sorry but I tend to think he cares much less about the forgiveness of his fellow man than he cares about getting back on the fat gravy train that financed all his drugging and whoring around.

Call me a cynic I know...

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Mon 11/17/08 09:40 AM

It has nothing to do with his mistakes. We all make them and God knows they often come from deep-seeded issues none of us have the right to judge.

It has everything to do with his own hypocracy. How many people did he condemn for the very same thing? How many people did he call sinners, did he despise in his mind and on his pulpit? How many people? He wants mercy he never gave.


According to him, he preached what he believed, but his personal problems drove him to do something he hated.

It's entirely possible do have your willpower give in and do something which you are fully aware is wrong and hate yourself for doing it, but be unable to stop yourself.

I'm not saying that was definitely the situation, because I don't think anybody but him knows all the facts. But I am saying that makes sense to me as a possibility.

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Mon 11/17/08 01:49 PM


It has nothing to do with his mistakes. We all make them and God knows they often come from deep-seeded issues none of us have the right to judge.

It has everything to do with his own hypocracy. How many people did he condemn for the very same thing? How many people did he call sinners, did he despise in his mind and on his pulpit? How many people? He wants mercy he never gave.


According to him, he preached what he believed, but his personal problems drove him to do something he hated.

It's entirely possible do have your willpower give in and do something which you are fully aware is wrong and hate yourself for doing it, but be unable to stop yourself.

I'm not saying that was definitely the situation, because I don't think anybody but him knows all the facts. But I am saying that makes sense to me as a possibility.
The Devil made him do it.

Lynann's photo
Mon 11/17/08 01:52 PM
haah Wasn't that Flip Wilson?


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Mon 11/17/08 02:11 PM
For some odd reasone I get the feeling that everyone who defends Ted condemed clinton for his hetro sexuale affair

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Mon 11/17/08 02:17 PM

For some odd reasone I get the feeling that everyone who defends Ted condemed clinton for his hetro sexuale affair


You mean the affair he committed a felony and broke his oath of office to hide? For me, it was never the adultery, but the felonies and violation of his oath of office that bothered me. And since he was my employee, I had every right to be upset about what he was doing on the clock.

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Mon 11/17/08 02:19 PM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 11/17/08 02:20 PM

For some odd reasone I get the feeling that everyone who defends Ted condemed clinton for his hetro sexuale affair
Had to come to madmans post he seems to stay off of mine. GREAT PIC!!!Seems to be what Ive been debating for days. Hope I dont go to mingle jail for doing itlaugh

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Mon 11/17/08 05:31 PM
'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'

-The Bible

http://www.answers.com/topic/those-who-live-in-glass-houses-shouldn-t-throw-stones

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Mon 11/17/08 05:32 PM
What is the 'mingle jail' I keep hearing about?

And how would someone get paroled from this 'jail'? laugh

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Mon 11/17/08 05:35 PM

What is the 'mingle jail' I keep hearing about?

And how would someone get paroled from this 'jail'? laugh
I got my "Free Lunch" and boxers ready..laugh

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Mon 11/17/08 05:38 PM

For some odd reason I get the feeling that everyone who defends Ted condemned clinton for his hetro sexuale affair


Actually, Madison, I did not think Clinton should have been hung for what he did, at least not by a bunch of Senators who have done the same. What I thought Monica should have done is hammered him with a sexual harassment suit. I manage about 23 people--more than 80% women. If I were to have done to one of my employees (as their boss) what the President did to an intern, I would be (and rightfully so) out of a job.

And I felt the same way about Senator Packwood (I'm not kidding, look it up if you think I'm making up that name as a poor attempt at humor) and I will feel that way the next time it happens.

I have no power--none, as a manager, compared to the President and I'd lose everything in a case like that. I always thought that it should have been looked at that way. But that's just me.

-Drew

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Tue 11/18/08 06:44 AM
Monica swallows, no blue dress, no propagandistic moral outrage Gore wins rideing in on the good economy and Clintons coatails and no George Bush, just imagine that! Monica was a butterfly effect ................A butterfly flaps its wings in some part of the world and starts a chain of nonlinear effects that can result in a hurricane striking anywhere on the planet."
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071110122753AARyGyd

Lynann's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:44 AM
Hells bells Newt lead the charge to punish Clinton when he, Newt was doing an intern himself.

The American people are overly concern with sex. It's almost funny given the number of marriages that fail and affairs that are conducted that when a public official does it Americans are shocked.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying affairs are okay. I am saying that they happen the people involved should be able to work out their private lives on their own.

Bill and Hilary worked it out. The preserved their marriage and supported each other. Newt got divorced. Tell me which one supports family values.

I also think some of this moral outrage is fake.

Certainly Newt's was. That is unless he was going home at night and feeling so bad he was punished there. (talk about an ugly mental picture) For detail on Newt see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258001,00.html

Moral outrage plays well in America. It allows us to do ugly things in our own lives big and small like condemn others, cheat on our taxes, act in un-chritian ways, flirt on-line when married...what ever the offense then cleanse ourselves of guilt by pointing at someone like Bill Clinton and say we are offended and outraged.

It really is funny that after all these years people are outraged that Bill got head but they are not bothered by Reagan lying and selling weapons to Iran or

Lynann's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:48 AM
Hells bells Newt lead the charge to punish Clinton when he, Newt was doing an intern himself.

The American people are overly concern with sex. It's almost funny given the number of marriages that fail and affairs that are conducted that when a public official does it Americans are shocked.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying affairs are okay. I am saying that they happen the people involved should be able to work out their private lives on their own.

Bill and Hilary worked it out. The preserved their marriage and supported each other. Newt got divorced. Tell me which one supports family values.

I also think some of this moral outrage is fake.

Certainly Newt's was. That is unless he was going home at night and feeling so bad he was punished there. (talk about an ugly mental picture) For detail on Newt see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258001,00.html

Moral outrage plays well in America. It allows us to do ugly things in our own lives big and small like condemn others, cheat on our taxes, act in un-chritian ways, flirt on-line when married...what ever the offense then cleanse ourselves of guilt by pointing at someone like Bill Clinton and say we are offended and outraged.

It really is funny that after all these years people are outraged that Bill got head but they are not bothered by Newt doing the same damned thing.

Remember that parable from the bible? Who are you to cast the first stone?

Selective outrage and indignation, it sure is interesting to watch. It says so much about the people who engage in it as well.


snarkytwain's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:48 AM

Hells bells Newt lead the charge to punish Clinton when he, Newt was doing an intern himself.

The American people are overly concern with sex. It's almost funny given the number of marriages that fail and affairs that are conducted that when a public official does it Americans are shocked.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying affairs are okay. I am saying that they happen the people involved should be able to work out their private lives on their own.

Bill and Hilary worked it out. The preserved their marriage and supported each other. Newt got divorced. Tell me which one supports family values.

I also think some of this moral outrage is fake.

Certainly Newt's was. That is unless he was going home at night and feeling so bad he was punished there. (talk about an ugly mental picture) For detail on Newt see http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258001,00.html

Moral outrage plays well in America. It allows us to do ugly things in our own lives big and small like condemn others, cheat on our taxes, act in un-chritian ways, flirt on-line when married...what ever the offense then cleanse ourselves of guilt by pointing at someone like Bill Clinton and say we are offended and outraged.

It really is funny that after all these years people are outraged that Bill got head but they are not bothered by Reagan lying and selling weapons to Iran or


Lynann, I continually find myself nodding and applauding your posts. I couldn't have said it better myself.

One word: hypocracy.

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Tue 11/18/08 08:53 AM
everyone seems to focus on Clinton's sexual escapades and defending them.

it wasn't the affair that got him in trouble. It was the laws he broke trying to keep people from finding out

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 11/18/08 08:54 AM
Edited by snarkytwain on Tue 11/18/08 08:54 AM

everyone seems to focus on Clinton's sexual escapades and defending them.

it wasn't the affair that got him in trouble. It was the laws he broke trying to keep people from finding out


Yes, but that only reaffirms Lynann's statement that people are overly concerned with sex.

Lynann's photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:49 AM
Perjury...

You don't see people posting about that. You see references to the blue dress, Monica, cigars, affairs...yada yada

Personally I think Clinton handled the whole thing wrong.

He should have done what Bush has done and simply refused to answer the questions of congress.

Lie about a blow job...moral outrage,impeachment proceedings start.

Lie about weapons of mass destruction...people pay for that lie with their lives...no moral outrage.

What is wrong with people?


Lynann's photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:49 AM
Perjury...

You don't see people posting about that. You see references to the blue dress, Monica, cigars, affairs...yada yada

Personally I think Clinton handled the whole thing wrong.

He should have done what Bush has done and simply refused to answer the questions of congress.

Lie about a blow job...moral outrage,impeachment proceedings start.

Lie about weapons of mass destruction...people pay for that lie with their lives...no moral outrage.

What is wrong with people?