Secret US Order Governs Raids Anywhere on Earth
Monday, November 10th, 2008

The New York Times is reporting tonight that a secret military order signed by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in spring of 2004 gave the military formal authority to conduct attacks against al-Qaeda anywhere in the world, including nations not current at war with the United States.

The order explicitly mentions 15 to 20 countries across the Muslim world with specific levels of approval needed for missions in each country. A strike in Somalia would only require the defense secretary’s approval, while attacks in Pakistan and Syria need presidential approval.

It is unclear from the report how broadly the directive defines “al-Qaeda terrorist network,” but as it appears to have been the source of the authorizaiton to attack “suspected elements of a robust foreign fighter logistics network” in Syria, not to mention the innumerable attacks in Pakistan over recent months which have targeted everything from Pakistani Taliban-linked religious schools to unfriendly tribes it is being very broadly interpreted.

The report, which cites senior US officials, also brings to light previously undisclosed attacks, such as a 2006 Navy Seal raid in Pakistan’s Bajaur Agency. An attack on September 3 of this year was previously believed to be the first incident of US ground troops attacking targets inside Pakistan.
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What a surprise, first, I love how all these "secret" reports somehow always find their way into MSM news.

Secondly, Wasn't this type of military hubris the kind of thing that Hitler did?

I hope that article comes to no suprise.. America has been doing this for years before bush..

Lets get real...

In a world where governments exist... so also will the tools of diplomacy.

One of those tools is undercover military ops... It has been going on for as long as government has existed...

Using an existing tool in conjuction with other options is part of the JOB our government is supposed to do.

Isn't that pretty normal behavior for the military? I mean, how else would we fight the terrorists?

The point is that with one side of "our" (America's) mouth we say we respect the sovereignty of other nations, but the reality is that is just a shiny word to make others feel like they have some authority. (not just America either every country)

I wish humanity could accept truth, the issue is that we cannot . . . so we like to feel good at the expense of complete honesty.

Sad but true.

This is another excellent question.

Terrorism is merely a tactic used by those that are desparate and ill equiped. We must revisit our attacks and ask ourselves why we were attacked in the first place.

If you dig deep enough you will see a tangled web of decite, empty promises, billions of dollars, etc.

For instance, we, America, the United States, formed Al Qaeda. We helped them organize, and we gave them weapons, training and funding back in the 80's to fight against a soviet occupancy.

For decades now, we have been a strong arm for the U.N. fighting in diplomatic wars that have nothing to do with ourselves. We give weapons and money to countries/ organisations we end up fighting in the end. Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Afganistan, the list goes on.

The answer, I firmly believe, is NOT to fight this. We need to stop this madness by minding our own business. Pull all troops out of everywhere, sell the bases back to the respective countries, pull out of the U.N. and NATO, become independent once again. We should not attempt the position of "World Police", especially when the "world" does not pay us taxes...

Yeah, what he said...

I'm a good questioner.

Thanks. That actually all makes sense.

Excellent post.

that is whatyou call diplomacy

lie to them to get what ya want

and

if it doesnt work

ya send in the troops

been going on for as long as someone has had something someone else wanted

it is what it is

We either subsidize or destroy. We don't really do anything else.

you left out

destroy the subsidized

Thats only because our criminal government has to have a boogeyman, but we have so many weapons, that they have to actually create the boogeyman.

Look at the 2 main ones we've heard about over the Bush Admin. Saddam and Bin Laden, both created by our Government.

that is a fact

no doubt about it

control by fear

work for the weak of mind and spirit

If you go back to 2001 , there were only dozens , not hundreds , not thousands and not millions of Al-Qaeda members . All the world knows that those dozens were either killed or captured in Afghanistan . The US Administration uses the pretext of Al-Qaeda to make colonies and steal their resources including the oil . Osama Bin Laden and his deputy were expelled from their own countries and they had no support from the Masses . Bin Laden worked with the CIA and Americans in Afghanistan to fight the Soviet .
In my opinion the American propaganda instigated by the neo cons , the Zionists and Israel is there to justify futile wars against Muslims for many goals such as :
A : The oil , the resources and the lands .
B : Permanent military bases in Muslim countries such as Iraq , afghanistan....etc .
B : the domination of Israel of the Middle East .

G.W. Bush was and still is under the thumbs of the neo cons , the Zionists and Israel who keep on pushing him from one precipice to another .
According to Barry Zwicker in his book " Towers Of Deception " , explains that the CIA and MOSSAD keep on killing INNOCENT men , women and children and say it is the work of Al-Qaeda .
How many FAKE videos were aired by the propaganda machine and were attributed by the Administration to Al-Qaeda ?. Loads of videos !.

Aye and those other governments do the same... From one side they say 'friend' from the other they condem... and yet from shadow to shadow the spies and SpecOps still kreep...

Respecting a country ends when that country can not or will not end aggression from criminals hiding within its borders...

My definition of criminal (in this contex)... If an organization is damaging the world community they are a criminal...

Most of what I have seen of the 'Terrorist' groups IS just that... They care not where or whom they attack... They attack allies, enemies, anyone that is unable to fight back and even sometimes themselves...

Removing them will bring less suffering than allowing them to continue...

that is the best way to control an empire, to terrorize its subjects.
so who is the terrorist?

I reckon untill I start hacking off peoples heads... Killing children cause the ATTENDED school... or other such UNACCEPTABLE NONSENSE...

I am not smart enough to determnin that.

You tell me... Who DO you think the terrorist is.

Greater good for the greatest number...

We have a world to think about now.

NOT a simple matter of my way is right anymore.

my good friend when a single undercover operation instead of killing the criminal, terrorists, or whomever you want kills civilians as well.
then it kills children, mothers, and seniors.
that per se is an action of terror.
9/11 broke my heart, but that was just a response from all the terror which has been generate several years ago.
as you said in one of your posts I wish to live to see a generation of children who don't know what a war is.
Nevertheless, if a government keeps a policy which is based upon the premise "blow everything and then make questions," we are hopeless.

Was it?

Perhaps in a world where ANY military action by the US is AUTOMATICLLY declared by our enemies to have been carried out on 'innocent civilians' I begin to suspect that such is but propaganda.

Ask a few members or ex members of the military how it feels when you carry out an assignemt, lose some friends, get back to debrief and find out that the world thinks you were fighting civilians...
never realized an rpg was a normal civilian walking stick)...thanks for enlighting me.