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feralcatlady's photo
Tue 12/23/08 08:12 AM
Your right they Tom.....


I don't need to defend God....nor do I need to justify what "I Know" to be.......

Describe God without sound dellusional




There are many various 'religious beliefs' that appear Christian', but is 'another gospel' being presented, as Galations 1: 6-9 says:

I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. ~ (NKJV)

With that said, here are 10 fundamental beliefs I have as a Christian. As professing Christians we should share these beliefs, for they are the foundation of our Faith.


* I believe in One God who created the universe and everything in it.
(Isaiah 43: 10-13; Isaiah 44: 24; Deut. 6: 4; 1 Corinthians 8: 4-6)

* I believe that God became flesh, in Jesus Christ. So He is One with God.
(John 1: 1-5; Isaiah 9: 6-7)

* I believe Jesus Christ was born of a virgin. In saying this, I believe Mary was a virgin when she 'gave birth'.
(Luke 1: 26-38)

* I believe Jesus died on the Cross for our sins, that we may be forgiven. And that He was bodily raised to life on the third day.
(Luke 23: 33-34; Luke 24: 1-7; Isaiah 53: 3-7)

* I believe we shall have 'eternal life' by accepting God's plan of Salvation which is accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour.
(1 John 5: 10-12; Romans 10:9; 1 Timothy 2:5)

* I believe in being 'baptized' by full-immersion after receiving Jesus as Lord and Saviour. I do not believe that water baptism saves a person. Salvation is a free
gift by accepting Jesus.
(Romans 6: 3-4; Matthew 28: 19; Ephesians 2: 8-10)

* I believe in the work of the Holy Spirit through ordinary people, and that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are relevant for today.
(1 Corinthians 12, John 1: 33; Acts 1: 5-9, 2: 1-18; 1 Cor. 14: 2-4, 14-19)

* I believe that the word of God (the Bible) is the only authority, and is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and is the only truth that we must live by. I do not believe or accept any other teachings and beliefs, there is only 'One Truth'.
(2 Timothy 3: 16-17; Hebrews 4: 12; 1 Peter 1: 25; Mark 13: 31)

* I believe that Jesus Christ will come back again to gather up His Church.
(Acts 1: 11; 1 Thessalonians 4: 13-18)

* I believe there is a real 'Heaven' and a real 'Hell'. And where we spend our eternity is determined by which one we choose while we're alive. There are no second chances after 'Death'.
(Revelation 21: 22-27, 20: 10-15; Hebrews 9: 27-28)

Thank you Thank you very much....


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Tue 12/23/08 08:21 AM



Here is the law of existence.

The observer decides what is real.

So, There is no use in arguing with anyone.

We are all observers and we all decide what is real -- to us. Why would you want to mess with another person's reality?

Don't do it. Create your own.

Another law of existence:

You cannot create another person's reality completely. You can help it along, but you cannot vibrate for them.

If you believe in someone else's reality and not your own, that is delusional.

Only you decide what is real.






True, as long as you don't let those nasty things like facts and evidence get in your way.
Then you can believe whatever you want.
I for one like facts.
And there are very few in the bible.


Facts and evidence? That's funny.

You can believe whatever you want about anything you want at any time, even facts and evidence.

Proof of anything is only a matter of belief.

(The Bible? Who is talking about the Bible? Are you changing the subject?)huh huh




flowerforyou Your absolutely right JBflowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 12/23/08 08:22 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 12/23/08 08:23 AM

Your right they Tom.....


I don't need to defend God....nor do I need to justify what "I Know" to be.......

Describe God without sound dellusional




There are many various 'religious beliefs' that appear Christian', but is 'another gospel' being presented, as Galations 1: 6-9 says:

I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. ~ (NKJV)

With that said, here are 10 fundamental beliefs I have as a Christian. As professing Christians we should share these beliefs, for they are the foundation of our Faith.


* I believe in One God who created the universe and everything in it.
(Isaiah 43: 10-13; Isaiah 44: 24; Deut. 6: 4; 1 Corinthians 8: 4-6)

* I believe that God became flesh, in Jesus Christ. So He is One with God.
(John 1: 1-5; Isaiah 9: 6-7)

* I believe Jesus Christ was born of a virgin. In saying this, I believe Mary was a virgin when she 'gave birth'.
(Luke 1: 26-38)

* I believe Jesus died on the Cross for our sins, that we may be forgiven. And that He was bodily raised to life on the third day.
(Luke 23: 33-34; Luke 24: 1-7; Isaiah 53: 3-7)

* I believe we shall have 'eternal life' by accepting God's plan of Salvation which is accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour.
(1 John 5: 10-12; Romans 10:9; 1 Timothy 2:5)

* I believe in being 'baptized' by full-immersion after receiving Jesus as Lord and Saviour. I do not believe that water baptism saves a person. Salvation is a free
gift by accepting Jesus.
(Romans 6: 3-4; Matthew 28: 19; Ephesians 2: 8-10)

* I believe in the work of the Holy Spirit through ordinary people, and that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are relevant for today.
(1 Corinthians 12, John 1: 33; Acts 1: 5-9, 2: 1-18; 1 Cor. 14: 2-4, 14-19)

* I believe that the word of God (the Bible) is the only authority, and is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and is the only truth that we must live by. I do not believe or accept any other teachings and beliefs, there is only 'One Truth'.
(2 Timothy 3: 16-17; Hebrews 4: 12; 1 Peter 1: 25; Mark 13: 31)

* I believe that Jesus Christ will come back again to gather up His Church.
(Acts 1: 11; 1 Thessalonians 4: 13-18)

* I believe there is a real 'Heaven' and a real 'Hell'. And where we spend our eternity is determined by which one we choose while we're alive. There are no second chances after 'Death'.
(Revelation 21: 22-27, 20: 10-15; Hebrews 9: 27-28)

Thank you Thank you very much....


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:smile: You got your facts all wrong:smile:

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Tue 12/23/08 10:44 AM
Edited by feralcatlady on Tue 12/23/08 10:47 AM
proof mirror not just words that mean nothing.....you can ay all wrong...but please proof of what you say would be nice just once.....this is what your great at....no proof and jump to conclusions...



Your right they Tom.....


I don't need to defend God....nor do I need to justify what "I Know" to be.......

Describe God without sound dellusional




There are many various 'religious beliefs' that appear Christian', but is 'another gospel' being presented, as Galations 1: 6-9 says:

I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. ~ (NKJV)

With that said, here are 10 fundamental beliefs I have as a Christian. As professing Christians we should share these beliefs, for they are the foundation of our Faith.


* I believe in One God who created the universe and everything in it.
(Isaiah 43: 10-13; Isaiah 44: 24; Deut. 6: 4; 1 Corinthians 8: 4-6)

* I believe that God became flesh, in Jesus Christ. So He is One with God.
(John 1: 1-5; Isaiah 9: 6-7)

* I believe Jesus Christ was born of a virgin. In saying this, I believe Mary was a virgin when she 'gave birth'.
(Luke 1: 26-38)

* I believe Jesus died on the Cross for our sins, that we may be forgiven. And that He was bodily raised to life on the third day.
(Luke 23: 33-34; Luke 24: 1-7; Isaiah 53: 3-7)

* I believe we shall have 'eternal life' by accepting God's plan of Salvation which is accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour.
(1 John 5: 10-12; Romans 10:9; 1 Timothy 2:5)

* I believe in being 'baptized' by full-immersion after receiving Jesus as Lord and Saviour. I do not believe that water baptism saves a person. Salvation is a free
gift by accepting Jesus.
(Romans 6: 3-4; Matthew 28: 19; Ephesians 2: 8-10)

* I believe in the work of the Holy Spirit through ordinary people, and that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are relevant for today.
(1 Corinthians 12, John 1: 33; Acts 1: 5-9, 2: 1-18; 1 Cor. 14: 2-4, 14-19)

* I believe that the word of God (the Bible) is the only authority, and is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and is the only truth that we must live by. I do not believe or accept any other teachings and beliefs, there is only 'One Truth'.
(2 Timothy 3: 16-17; Hebrews 4: 12; 1 Peter 1: 25; Mark 13: 31)

* I believe that Jesus Christ will come back again to gather up His Church.
(Acts 1: 11; 1 Thessalonians 4: 13-18)

* I believe there is a real 'Heaven' and a real 'Hell'. And where we spend our eternity is determined by which one we choose while we're alive. There are no second chances after 'Death'.
(Revelation 21: 22-27, 20: 10-15; Hebrews 9: 27-28)

Thank you Thank you very much....


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:smile: You got your facts all wrong:smile:

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Tue 12/23/08 11:39 AM




But that is my point I guess...Because GOD IS IN EVERYTHING....Every little thing that happens in this world he knows about and he knew exactly what everyone is going to do before "they even know" what they are going to do.
Yes God is the creator of all, but also with us 24/7.


well I guess that puts an end to that "Free Will" theory




I guess we should blame him then everytime a baby gets raped?


God works in mysterious ways
flowerforyou yepflowerforyou

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Tue 12/23/08 12:27 PM
Cool Mrs. Santa Clause suit icon Feralcatlady.

drinker

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Fri 12/26/08 11:18 AM



Ok then give me evidence that he doesn't exsist


"feralcatlady" ..it's not up to others to prove or disprove your delusions .. it's up to you to prove it's not a delusion

so I will give you that opportunity by asking you to answer this one simple question

simply describe God without sounding delusional
I dont think believers or non believers have to prove anything to anyone. Can't be done, on either side of the coin.


Yep, true!

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Fri 12/26/08 11:25 AM
Edited by Plainome on Fri 12/26/08 11:49 AM

I dont believe in any of this.

there is no heaven or hell

you die you go to the ground thats that.


thats what I believe and that wont change.



only my belief,I dont go around talking bad about what others believe or any of that.
just because I dont believe in what others do,does not make me a bad person.

I can care less about the ones who look down on me,because of what I dont beleive in


With all due respect my friend (though I know you are not literally my friend as we do not know eachother), but going to the "ground" and turning to dust..........well that is not and can not be the "end" as the "ground" and the earth in it is not THE END but is simply another stage of life. The earth (dirt, ground, dust) has nutrients and "energy" that it gives off to the plants, which in turn give off to the animals............it is a cycle. One that if you actually observe NEVER "ends".

Not saying you have to believe that, or in Heaven and Hell, as I don't believe in "Heaven" and "Hell", but I do believe what I can easily perceive with my eyes, and that is "death" is not the end it is simply a change.........

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Fri 12/26/08 11:33 AM
I believe that God is love, that Christ's "Sermon on the mount" was the perfect message, that my salvation was bought by his sacrifice, and that there's no burden of proof upon me to prove anything to anyone who believes differently.:smile:

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Fri 12/26/08 12:09 PM

I believe that God is love, that Christ's "Sermon on the mount" was the perfect message, that my salvation was bought by his sacrifice, and that there's no burden of proof upon me to prove anything to anyone who believes differently.:smile:


I agree 100%....and I honestly don't have a problem with people believing whatever gets them through the day....But also expect the same respect...Tell me I am delusional and My God, Christ and the Bible are a myth....well I do have a problem with that....If a panthiest wants to believe that is is god, the flowers, the trees, the sky, the mountain are all god or they are all one....I say go for it...but give me the same respect....because I notice the people that want to argue the most have never once put what they believe and their only thing is to call someone delusional for their beliefs....hmmmmmm

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Fri 12/26/08 12:31 PM
I believe that we are only but a spec in the universe and to think that we are the special children of the almighty Creator of all things is just the proof of how high we think of ourselves.

Why were human on this small rock giving the spark of reasoning and deduction I don't know, some say it was The Creator some say it was just evolution I tend to go towards evolution even if not a 100% convince.

I do not believe in life after death, yes our remains do continue the cycle of life after we died but we as individuals it ends there.

I believe that we justify our beliefs because we are to afraid to think there is nothing else out there and we're stuck with humanity so we created God, heaven and hell to make our mind at ease.


These are my beliefs and mine alone, me myself & I that's how it starts and that how it ends we do meet people in between but the results is the same for everyone.

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Fri 12/26/08 01:14 PM


I do not believe in life after death, yes our remains do continue the cycle of life after we died but we as individuals it ends there.




Or that individuality was an illusion in the first place??

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Fri 12/26/08 01:25 PM
Feral, I can respect your beliefs.........and I can understand what you are saying, but you see people debate the Bible with you and call it a "myth" because you try to use it as a law. When you use it as proof or fact, when you have those long posts of quoted scriptures........that opens you and them (the scriptures and the Bible) up to be debated and called a farce.

However, when you testify (as the early Christians did) of your life, and how Christ made a difference for you, and how your life has changed. Your personal experiences and even answered prayers...............No one can argue with those. They may not attribute them to any "God", but they are yours.

I know, for me, I hate it when people use the Bible or present it to me as if it is the infallible word of "God". I find that offensive because I personally do not believe the true word of any true God can be contained in a book. But that is my opinion, and when someone tries to use the Bible, or any holy book for that matter, as the infallible word of "God" that is what I will tell them, and then I will give them evidence of the trees, etc.

Use what is real, use the stars in the sky as testiment to divine design. Use the intricate lives of bees and their beehives of something greater than ourselves...........and SHARE

that you believe it is your Christ.

However, when you use a Bible, that speaks of Heaven, and Hell, and that all non-believers will have their place in the Lake of Fire, and such........people are going to do their best to disprove it.

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Sat 12/27/08 09:18 PM

When God speaks I listen and I obey and not because I am scared but because my love for him his countless.

It's hard to speak of what you don't know.


In LA they used to call that an acid trip!!!

It's hard to speak of what you don't know.


Good, so don't then, your startin to tick me off. mad rant :laughing:

Ok ok I couldn't help myself!!! slaphead

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Sat 12/27/08 09:40 PM

Buddhism is my vehicle, Jesus is my gasoline, and Gandhi is my freeway

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Sun 12/28/08 08:02 AM

Feral, I can respect your beliefs.........and I can understand what you are saying, but you see people debate the Bible with you and call it a "myth" because you try to use it as a law. When you use it as proof or fact, when you have those long posts of quoted scriptures........that opens you and them (the scriptures and the Bible) up to be debated and called a farce.

However, when you testify (as the early Christians did) of your life, and how Christ made a difference for you, and how your life has changed. Your personal experiences and even answered prayers...............No one can argue with those. They may not attribute them to any "God", but they are yours.

I know, for me, I hate it when people use the Bible or present it to me as if it is the infallible word of "God". I find that offensive because I personally do not believe the true word of any true God can be contained in a book. But that is my opinion, and when someone tries to use the Bible, or any holy book for that matter, as the infallible word of "God" that is what I will tell them, and then I will give them evidence of the trees, etc.

Use what is real, use the stars in the sky as testiment to divine design. Use the intricate lives of bees and their beehives of something greater than ourselves...........and SHARE

that you believe it is your Christ.

However, when you use a Bible, that speaks of Heaven, and Hell, and that all non-believers will have their place in the Lake of Fire, and such........people are going to do their best to disprove it.



I know you respect my beliefs plain.....but part of respecting my beliefs is not calling it a myth because then you are not only disrespecting me but also the Father God, Jesus Christ and the Bible..Now as I have claimed so many many times over the last 10 years doing this....I claim what I know from what I have been shown by the Lord...All the miracles and all that he has shown me is why I am where I am not because of anything else.

And again you are correct....I know what the Lord does in my life on a daily basis...Heck Christ has done so many miracles right here on mingle...and believe me you Christ has taken the most cold atheists and turned them around right here...and again no one knows what goes on behind the scenes with me...That is where Christ works not in the nasty debate on the threads.

See love this is the whole point....I get that you don't believe in the Bible and Christ and God and you are so entitled to that belief....I would never say otherwise or say your going to hell....Sooooooo not my job...But just because the Bible isn't the infallible word of "God" to you....IT SURE IS TO ME...and you have no right to say otherwise as I don't to you.

And I always say just for sake of argument....Do you think in a million years of at least 2,000 that God would ever let the Bible a book that has been around for that long...be so if it was not inspired of him...I don't think so.

Everything to me is of God and created by God...and when I look at the stars in the sky crying and raising my hands to the Divine Creator and thank him for all he does. Same when I look at the intricate life of a bee.......How amazing God is in the design of all He created.

Now cmon on have I ever ever ever said that people are going to the lake of fire....I am no ones judge...and there is only one....I will not stop spreading the word of the gospel that is just a fact...I want everyone going to Heaven right along side me....But it's each individual persons choice to do what they want....it's freewill and God doesn't want someone who doesn't come to Him of that freewill...

And at least for me disprove all you want....your entitled but it won't ever change the fact of what is, was and will always be....GOD

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Sun 12/28/08 05:47 PM


Feral, I can respect your beliefs.........and I can understand what you are saying, but you see people debate the Bible with you and call it a "myth" because you try to use it as a law. When you use it as proof or fact, when you have those long posts of quoted scriptures........that opens you and them (the scriptures and the Bible) up to be debated and called a farce.

However, when you testify (as the early Christians did) of your life, and how Christ made a difference for you, and how your life has changed. Your personal experiences and even answered prayers...............No one can argue with those. They may not attribute them to any "God", but they are yours.

I know, for me, I hate it when people use the Bible or present it to me as if it is the infallible word of "God". I find that offensive because I personally do not believe the true word of any true God can be contained in a book. But that is my opinion, and when someone tries to use the Bible, or any holy book for that matter, as the infallible word of "God" that is what I will tell them, and then I will give them evidence of the trees, etc.

Use what is real, use the stars in the sky as testiment to divine design. Use the intricate lives of bees and their beehives of something greater than ourselves...........and SHARE

that you believe it is your Christ.

However, when you use a Bible, that speaks of Heaven, and Hell, and that all non-believers will have their place in the Lake of Fire, and such........people are going to do their best to disprove it.



I know you respect my beliefs plain.....but part of respecting my beliefs is not calling it a myth because then you are not only disrespecting me but also the Father God, Jesus Christ and the Bible..Now as I have claimed so many many times over the last 10 years doing this....I claim what I know from what I have been shown by the Lord...All the miracles and all that he has shown me is why I am where I am not because of anything else.

And again you are correct....I know what the Lord does in my life on a daily basis...Heck Christ has done so many miracles right here on mingle...and believe me you Christ has taken the most cold atheists and turned them around right here...and again no one knows what goes on behind the scenes with me...That is where Christ works not in the nasty debate on the threads.

See love this is the whole point....I get that you don't believe in the Bible and Christ and God and you are so entitled to that belief....I would never say otherwise or say your going to hell....Sooooooo not my job...But just because the Bible isn't the infallible word of "God" to you....IT SURE IS TO ME...and you have no right to say otherwise as I don't to you.

And I always say just for sake of argument....Do you think in a million years of at least 2,000 that God would ever let the Bible a book that has been around for that long...be so if it was not inspired of him...I don't think so.

Everything to me is of God and created by God...and when I look at the stars in the sky crying and raising my hands to the Divine Creator and thank him for all he does. Same when I look at the intricate life of a bee.......How amazing God is in the design of all He created.

Now cmon on have I ever ever ever said that people are going to the lake of fire....I am no ones judge...and there is only one....I will not stop spreading the word of the gospel that is just a fact...I want everyone going to Heaven right along side me....But it's each individual persons choice to do what they want....it's freewill and God doesn't want someone who doesn't come to Him of that freewill...

And at least for me disprove all you want....your entitled but it won't ever change the fact of what is, was and will always be....GOD


Well, ummmmm, then I could argue that you insult me by claiming that your "God" is my "God". That you insult my "God" by claiming that yours is the only true God.......and that all others are false.

BTW, there are "holy scriptures" or "spiritual" writings that have been around more than 2000 years, or at least a similar amount of time that outdate the Bible. Many of them are written as cryptographs in Egypt, BEFORE the Bible, as it was before the Exodus. They have "gods" and all kinds of things.

So, the claim that the Bible must be the word of "God" because he wouldn't have let it be around so long if it wasn't..........well, doesn't hold any water.

You may not tell me I'm going to hell, but the book you claim is infallible, DOES, simply because I don't believe Jesus is Christ and God. So, claiming that you believe it means that you believe (whether you say it or not) that those who do not are going to hell, and that is exactly why you must share the "gospel" with them..........to convert them so they won't go to hell.

Either way, your point about "free will", well........it doesn't exist. To say, "I want someone to love me for me and love me for "real" and not because I make them or I'm going to give them something.........to love me of their own free will" and then have a book that tells about all the blessings if you follow, promised eternal life, punishment if you don't, and eternal hell...........well, explain to me how anyone could truly have free well if they are created by another being that has an ultimate plan for their existance????

Besides, you are wrong. I am not trying to prove the Bible wrong, or Christianity..... I don't feel the need. I am trying to prove that it isn't the ONLY way to truth, or to happiness, or to fulfillment..........or that any REAL God would be as the one in the Bible, especially the Old Testament. It reeks of the fallacies of humanity. Not some higher, eternal, all wise being.

You believe it, good for you...........it fulfills your life, isn't it great to have a purpose??

I'm done. Believe the Bible with all your heart. Live it.....be real...........be real.

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Sun 12/28/08 05:50 PM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Sun 12/28/08 06:04 PM
I practice a mixture of Catholicism and Paganism.

With a little Buddhism and Native American Spirituality thrown in for good measure.

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Sun 12/28/08 06:01 PM
I just believe that there is a higher soul

As for the part where someone thought that when we die we just become dust - I don't believe that. My father had a near death experience when he was injured in Vietnam and he told me about it.

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Sun 12/28/08 06:09 PM



Ok then give me evidence that he doesn't exsist


"feralcatlady" ..it's not up to others to prove or disprove your delusions .. it's up to you to prove it's not a delusion

so I will give you that opportunity by asking you to answer this one simple question

simply describe God without sounding delusional
I dont think believers or non believers have to prove anything to anyone. Can't be done, on either side of the coin.


That's because people's religious and spiritual beliefs are very personal. First, there is what you grew up with. Then there are each person's very unique experiences between God and themselves that can't be described or defended to another person. I think if your religion gives you a sense of being connected to God than that is the right religion for you. After all, that is the purpose of religion. To connect us personally to God.