Topic: "COUNTRY FIRST"
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Mon 11/03/08 07:47 PM
yeahhhhh

country first

and western

forever_fifites's photo
Mon 11/03/08 11:35 PM
This may be your last chance to really do something for Vietnam Veterans. They Show you care.

Winx's photo
Tue 11/04/08 05:45 AM

This may be your last chance to really do something for Vietnam Veterans. They Show you care.


I'm confused, Forever Fifties. What does voting for the best person to lead this country have to do with Nam?

Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/04/08 05:55 AM

Question: Don't we live in a free country? Rights and all that...hmmm.. religion, sexual preference, speech as we are doing now and are quite good at by the way.

Freedom, so when the govt makes laws that discriminate about who can and cannot be married, who can and cannot control their own bodies, what does that mean?

Oh and btw, GIANNA JESSEN, i have never heard of that person. Does not mean that she does not exist, just that not everyone knows about what is going on in any part of the world at any given time.

Heck as a Christian, instead of pointing out what is wrong with me and you (generally speaking) pray. i have a hard enough time dealing with my day to day drama.


Oh yea, and about repubs fighting for the unborn child, why is abortion still not against the law? Haven't we had a republican in office for the past 8 years???




Since when is standing up for the most innocent & vulnerable in life, discrimination?

When personal problems become society's problems we have the right to express what's wrong to CURB BEHAVIORS that are causing the problem. Or would you rather have big nanny govt instead?

That's when... unfortunately blaming REPS for that is again...the WRONG aim.

Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/04/08 05:56 AM

It's almost over. Soon the people of the United States will have spoken. I just hope they've had enough of a war mongering President and the Christian religious extremists. Hopefully tomorrow I can proclaim "yes, we did" in addition to "yes, we can."



Oh so is keeping Americans in "crisis mode" the revisionist version of "Yes we can?" laugh laugh


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Tue 11/04/08 05:57 AM

pro-life = anti-choice = fascism

:angry:



WRONG!!! I'm for choice...I choose LIFE!

Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/04/08 06:02 AM

Why would any sane woman wait until the last minute, or far enough along in her pregnancy for the fetus to survive anyway? That to me is wrong. Is that common? But still, I support a woman's right to make decisions regarding reproduction and her own body, and doctors who for medical reasons, say, the life of the mother, who decide that a late term abortion is in order. Good things could come from abortions... like stem cell samples for research, perhaps saving countless lives! Palin is against all abortion... regardless of the reason whether it be rape, incest, or for the health of the mother. I hope she never is elected to any position of power ever again!
Perhaps through education and frank discussion with our children and young people we can curb unwanted and unplanned pregnancy, and thus minimize the number of abortions in the U.S. Seems to me that in that case, both sides could win!
And as far as the morality of these decisions, if you are a believer, then won't God take care of it all on judgment day?
I resent laws that try and impose morality over such a private issue as an unwanted pregnancy! What a relief it will be that we will have a liberal President who will appoint liberal Supreme Court Justices who will undoubtedly support a woman's right to choose! Go Obama!!!



What most don't get about anything labeled "choice" is that it's not choice if it takes rights from one to give to another.

Having said that, then there is the issue of when a BEHAVIOR becomes a societal problem. Should we as civilized people that is, do what we can to curb behaviors that are a drag on our society?

If so then there goes the arguement. LIBS have their own judgemental attitudes. Yes they are in denial about how their decisions affect others.




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Tue 11/04/08 06:03 AM


pro-life = anti-choice = fascism

:angry:



WRONG!!! I'm for choice...I choose LIFE!



Youre right, its a personal choice, it SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DUE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT!!

Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/04/08 06:04 AM


how early would you believe it's not 'killing'


my own particular view is that every abortion stops a heart from beating. How ever you pretty it up and rationalize it, that is killing

but I also believe that sometimes it is necessary to kill. I just hope it's never my decision to make




AGREED! People who are desensitized to the consequences are the ones who fall into the trap that "it won't happen to THEM."

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Tue 11/04/08 06:08 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Tue 11/04/08 06:51 AM



pro-life = anti-choice = fascism

:angry:



WRONG!!! I'm for choice...I choose LIFE!



Youre right, its a personal choice, it SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DUE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT!!


It has EVERYTHING to do with govt.

ABORTION was illegal until the 50's (I believe).

My point is when you desensitize people thru laws it becomes a societal problem & exxaserbates bigger govt.

Uh...Hitler thought it was ok to kill & experiment with Jews. That was also the law. Was that right?


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Tue 11/04/08 07:49 AM
Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Tue 11/04/08 07:52 AM




pro-life = anti-choice = fascism

:angry:



WRONG!!! I'm for choice...I choose LIFE!



Youre right, its a personal choice, it SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DUE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT!!


It has EVERYTHING to do with govt.

ABORTION was illegal until the 50's (I believe).

My point is when you desensitize people thru laws it becomes a societal problem & exxaserbates bigger govt.

Uh...Hitler thought it was ok to kill & experiment with Jews. That was also the law. Was that right?





Abortion is a personal choice, it happens in nature. Goverment should not be so big it will effect ANYONES PERSONAL CHOICES NOR EFFECT THERE CIVILIAZED ACTIONS. We dont need nor want a big brother telling us what we have to do

Who really cares if it was illegal back in the 50s, so was alcohol in the 20's, so was mixed race marriage, so is u cant own Ferrets in the state of California---theres alot of stupid ways our government trys to subjegate people, it doesnt mean anything

Winx's photo
Tue 11/04/08 07:51 AM




pro-life = anti-choice = fascism

:angry:



WRONG!!! I'm for choice...I choose LIFE!



Youre right, its a personal choice, it SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DUE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT!!


It has EVERYTHING to do with govt.

ABORTION was illegal until the 50's (I believe).

My point is when you desensitize people thru laws it becomes a societal problem & exxaserbates bigger govt.

Uh...Hitler thought it was ok to kill & experiment with Jews. That was also the law. Was that right?




Interesting. I believe that you have mentioned Hitler on three threads.

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Tue 11/04/08 07:56 AM
Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Tue 11/04/08 08:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrXvDXVhqfU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Djohakx_FE&feature=related

Thats all i have to say on this subject

JasmineInglewood's photo
Tue 11/04/08 08:02 AM
rofl @ quiet's picture

Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/04/08 08:16 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Tue 11/04/08 08:22 AM





pro-life = anti-choice = fascism

:angry:



WRONG!!! I'm for choice...I choose LIFE!



Youre right, its a personal choice, it SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DUE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT!!


It has EVERYTHING to do with govt.

ABORTION was illegal until the 50's (I believe).

My point is when you desensitize people thru laws it becomes a societal problem & exxaserbates bigger govt.

Uh...Hitler thought it was ok to kill & experiment with Jews. That was also the law. Was that right?





Abortion is a personal choice, it happens in nature. Goverment should not be so big it will effect ANYONES PERSONAL CHOICES NOR EFFECT THERE CIVILIAZED ACTIONS. We dont need nor want a big brother telling us what we have to do

Who really cares if it was illegal back in the 50s, so was alcohol in the 20's, so was mixed race marriage, so is u cant own Ferrets in the state of California---theres alot of stupid ways our government trys to subjegate people, it doesnt mean anything


I'm sure that what all those who voted for Hitler thought like this too.

It means EVERYTHING, except to the deaf dumb & blind.

Winx's photo
Tue 11/04/08 09:05 AM
Hmmm...a fourth Hitler message that I've seen from her.

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Tue 11/04/08 09:06 AM
and ferrets

Winx's photo
Tue 11/04/08 09:08 AM

and ferrets


I like ferrets.bigsmile

cottonelle's photo
Tue 11/04/08 09:24 AM
COTTONELLE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

Winx's photo
Tue 11/04/08 09:25 AM

COTTONELLE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!


That reminds me. I need to go to the store.