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Are the members of the electoral college public record?
Can we find out before the election who they are? Has the president already been selected and are we just following along blindly? |
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I have never heard of the names being released. Good Question.
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Obama already won. He is in Hawaii now.
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Obama already won. He is in Hawaii now. thanks I'd have thought he'd go to Disney World instead |
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What is the Electoral College?
Summary: Americans elect the President and Vice-president through a method of indirect popular election. On November 4, 2008, voters cast their ballots for a presidential candidate. However, votes actually count towards a group of electors who pledge to vote for a specific candidate when the Electoral College meets in December. The "Electoral College" is the unofficial term coined in the 1800s for the group of citizens selected by the people to cast votes for President and Vice President. The presidential/vice-presidential pair who wins the popular vote in any given state receives all* of the state's number of Electoral College votes. In the end, the winner of the race is the candidate who receives a majority (270) of the 538 Electoral College votes. The results of the 2008 election won't be official until the President of the Senate counts the votes out loud at a special joint session of Congress held on January 6, 2009. A More Detailed Description: The 12th Amendment to the United States Constitution outlines the process for electing the President of the United States. This indirect method of popular election is known as the Electoral College. While some state laws regarding this process differ, the general method for electing the president is listed below. * Before the November election, political parties in each state create lists of potential electors(generally active members of the party) who pledge to vote for the party's candidate in the Electoral College. * A state's number of electoral votes equals the number of the state's Congressional delegation [the number of U.S. Senators (always 2) PLUS the number of U.S. Representatives.] The District of Columbia receives three electoral votes, as determined by the 23rd Amendment to the Constitution. See Electoral College Votes per State for your state's number of electoral votes. * On November 4, 2008, Voters cast their ballots for a block of electors who, in turn, will vote for a certain presidential candidate. The winner of the popular vote in each state receives the state's entire number* of Electoral College votes. For example, if a Democratic presidential candidate receives the most votes in Texas, the 34 Democratic electors become the voting block representing the Lone Star state. Therefore, the Democratic presidential candidate receives 34 of the 538 total votes in the Electoral College. The winner of the 2008 Presidential Election is the candidate who collects 270 votes, the majority. * Each state's block of electors (members of the winning candidate's party) assembles in their respective state capitol on December 13, 2008. At this meeting, the electors sign the 'Certificate of Vote,' which is sealed and delivered to the Office of the President of the United States Senate. * A special joint session of the U.S. Congress convenes on January 6, 2009. At this meeting, the President of the Senate reads the Certificates of Votes and declares the official winner. * The exceptions are Maine and Nebraska, where a proportional method for allocating votes is used. National Popular Vote Interstate Compact National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is a proposed agreement between states in the United States dealing with their allocation of electoral votes. This interstate compact would effectively shift the method of election of the President of the United States to a national popular vote system. By the terms of the compact, states agree to give all of their electoral votes to the national popular vote winner, regardless of the balance of votes in their own states. The compact would only go into effect once it was joined by states representing a majority of the electoral college. Source: http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/ Faithless Electors A faithless elector is one who casts an electoral vote for someone other than whom they have pledged to elect. On 158 occasions, electors have cast their votes for president or vice president in a different manner than that prescribed by the legislature of the state they represent. Of those, 71 votes were changed because the original candidate died before the elector was able to cast a vote. Two votes were not cast at all when electors chose to abstain from casting their electoral vote for any candidate. The remaining 85 were changed by the elector's personal interest or perhaps by accident. Usually, the faithless electors act alone. There are laws to punish faithless electors in 24 states. While no faithless elector has ever been punished, the constitutionality of state pledge laws was brought before the Supreme Court in 1952 Ray v. Blair, 343 U.S. 214). The court ruled in favor of state laws requiring electors to pledge to vote for the winning candidate, as well as remove electors who refuse to pledge. As stated in the ruling, electors are acting as a function of the state, not the federal government. Therefore, states have the right to govern electors. The constitutionality of state laws punishing electors for actually casting a faithless vote, rather than refusing to pledge, has never been decided by the Supreme Court. In any event, a state may only punish a faithless elector after-the-fact; it has no power to change their vote. Source: http://www.fairvote.org/e_college/faithless.htm |
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Are the members of the electoral college public record? Can we find out before the election who they are? Has the president already been selected and are we just following along blindly? Yes they are picked by the party on election day or at the state party convention depending on the state. |
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Forgot to include this federal link.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/index.html Detailed info like how they are selected and who they are can be found http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#2008names Names of the 2004 electors http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2004/certificates_of_ascertainment.html Information about the rules for electors and whether their meetings are open in your state can be found at state sites. |
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thanks Lynann - http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008/dates.html#people
Wondering if the actual people's identity were to be public knowledge. ok break this down to me plzzzzzzzzz * Before the November election, political parties in each state create lists of potential electors(generally active members of the party) who pledge to vote for the party's candidate in the Electoral College. Who selects them? The heads of both parties? If a state has (for example) 3 electoral votes, which party picks? who dictates which party picks how many, etc. |
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I graduated from Electoral College cuma adnausam.True story.
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Each state has it's own process.
You will have to look for your state's official site. You can also take a trip down to the law library and find statues relating to the process too. |
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thanks Lynann - http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008/dates.html#people Wondering if the actual people's identity were to be public knowledge. ok break this down to me plzzzzzzzzz * Before the November election, political parties in each state create lists of potential electors(generally active members of the party) who pledge to vote for the party's candidate in the Electoral College. Who selects them? The heads of both parties? If a state has (for example) 3 electoral votes, which party picks? who dictates which party picks how many, etc. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008/ |
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Edited by
cutelildevilsmom
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Fri 10/24/08 04:20 PM
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what a waste of a joke.you people must be conservatives.
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thanks Lyn - will be making a trip tomorrow
thanks Sam - I was on the right website, but just didnt get it but I do now and will do a bit more research on it tomorrow - you rock Cute - sorry it was a waste of a good joke - but elections are not over yet, maybe we can recycle that joke |
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fine.i'll recycle .treehugger..
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what a waste of a joke.you people must be conservatives. I attended a toga party at one of their frat houses..... |
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fine.i'll recycle .treehugger.. I you |
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who wouldn't?
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