Topic: RNC Spends $150,000 on Palin's...
Jill298's photo
Thu 10/23/08 08:20 AM

Crap forgot I hate shoppinggrumble grumble
Well duh... you pay someone to do it for you laugh

RoamingOrator's photo
Thu 10/23/08 08:35 AM
As much as I hate to do it, I have to defend the RNC on this one.

Look people, this is their job, it's what they do. It is the responsibility of the RNC to get their people elected. If you have to put lipstick on a pig, you do it. In this particular case, they are putting make-up, dresses, and hairstyles. But this is what they are supposed to do.

Oh, if you donated to the RNC I could understand you being pissed. But to think that this is an outrage is proposterous. The spending of huge sums of money on trival things in an election year should be expected. I'm sure the DNC has spent good money on Biden's botox, as well as make up for both Obama and Biden. They are wearing plenty when you see their faces on TV.

Americans are idiots. Yeah, I said it!! What we do, is vote for the best looking guy. If he's wearing Armani, he's got a better chance of getting elected than if his suit comes from Sears. Facial scars, not getting elected. Sound platform for economic progress, not getting elected. Looks like he belongs on GQ, vote him in!!

The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves. If I could stay in a fancy hotel on someone else's dollar, I'd do it. Hell, I have, stayed on the Loop in Chicago one time on the dime of the Volvo corporation. I didn't even work for them. Weekend in a fancy hotel, I'm in, you would be too.

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Thu 10/23/08 08:37 AM
The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder

Jill298's photo
Thu 10/23/08 08:47 AM

As much as I hate to do it, I have to defend the RNC on this one.

Look people, this is their job, it's what they do. It is the responsibility of the RNC to get their people elected. If you have to put lipstick on a pig, you do it. In this particular case, they are putting make-up, dresses, and hairstyles. But this is what they are supposed to do.

Oh, if you donated to the RNC I could understand you being pissed. But to think that this is an outrage is proposterous. The spending of huge sums of money on trival things in an election year should be expected. I'm sure the DNC has spent good money on Biden's botox, as well as make up for both Obama and Biden. They are wearing plenty when you see their faces on TV.

Americans are idiots. Yeah, I said it!! What we do, is vote for the best looking guy. If he's wearing Armani, he's got a better chance of getting elected than if his suit comes from Sears. Facial scars, not getting elected. Sound platform for economic progress, not getting elected. Looks like he belongs on GQ, vote him in!!

The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves. If I could stay in a fancy hotel on someone else's dollar, I'd do it. Hell, I have, stayed on the Loop in Chicago one time on the dime of the Volvo corporation. I didn't even work for them. Weekend in a fancy hotel, I'm in, you would be too.
I don't agree with this. I don't think most Americans can even tell the difference between Armani and Sears while you're wearing the dang suite on TV. And frankly, I don't think we give a damn either. People don't vote for the clothes.

Winx's photo
Thu 10/23/08 08:52 AM

The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

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Thu 10/23/08 08:57 AM
The average American household spends about $1,800 annually on clothing. Governor Palin spent what it would take an average family 66 years to spend on clothing!!!!

And the GOP has made it a point to describe Democrats as the “elites.”


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Thu 10/23/08 09:17 AM


The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

EEK... Once again the smoke hides what it is supposed to hide...

B.H. Obama has bought the airtime with an e-nor-u-dik-u-las amount of money... Airtime that will be used to once again fool the american public(I wonder if it will actually fool people)... He has also been spending money on many other things. (go back and check and you will find that his negative adds far outnumber his opponents yet he claims to not be the first to fire).

And ya'll oze puss about the equivlent cost of ONE advertisement used to put clothing on a canditate... while not even considering that the suits worn by Biden alone would cost close to that. (anyone priced that stuff yet) Ya'll can sure do a good job of following that first sheep off the cliff.

Winx's photo
Thu 10/23/08 09:25 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 10/23/08 09:25 AM



The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

EEK... Once again the smoke hides what it is supposed to hide...

B.H. Obama has bought the airtime with an e-nor-u-dik-u-las amount of money... Airtime that will be used to once again fool the american public(I wonder if it will actually fool people)... He has also been spending money on many other things. (go back and check and you will find that his negative adds far outnumber his opponents yet he claims to not be the first to fire).

And ya'll oze puss about the equivlent cost of ONE advertisement used to put clothing on a canditate... while not even considering that the suits worn by Biden alone would cost close to that. (anyone priced that stuff yet) Ya'll can sure do a good job of following that first sheep off the cliff.


But..you are forgetting one thing. People donated money to Obama to do that and expected that money to go towards ads.

I have read the ratio of negative ads. I have read that McCain's ads are more negative. The survey that came out yesterday covered people's perceptions of the negative ads...hope I get this number right....it said that 38% of the people perceived Obama's ads to be negative.

No sheep here, btw.:wink:


AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 10/23/08 09:33 AM




The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

EEK... Once again the smoke hides what it is supposed to hide...

B.H. Obama has bought the airtime with an e-nor-u-dik-u-las amount of money... Airtime that will be used to once again fool the american public(I wonder if it will actually fool people)... He has also been spending money on many other things. (go back and check and you will find that his negative adds far outnumber his opponents yet he claims to not be the first to fire).

And ya'll oze puss about the equivlent cost of ONE advertisement used to put clothing on a canditate... while not even considering that the suits worn by Biden alone would cost close to that. (anyone priced that stuff yet) Ya'll can sure do a good job of following that first sheep off the cliff.


But..you are forgetting one thing. People donated money to Obama to do that and expected that money to go towards ads.

I have read the ratio of negative ads. I have read that McCain's ads are more negative. The survey that came out yesterday covered people's perceptions of the negative ads...hope I get this number right....it said that 38% of the people perceived Obama's ads to be negative.

No sheep here, btw.:wink:



That would be because Obama has told them he is not putting out as many negative adds as his opponent... This is balderdash. Obama STARTED with negative adds. During the months preceeding this current part of the campaign independant review groups listed negative adds at 86% Obama adds negative...vs... 43% McCain adds negative... Wonder why it is that Dems can say that green is purple and everyone believes them... The facts don't back it up but yall don't seem to be concerned with those facts.
Everyone seems to be more concerned with making history (i.e. Black President)... I want to see that kind of history... However I want to see it with a REAL black man... Someone with the guts that were shown by a young man that went to an all white university under the guns... Obama is not even close to that class of MAN. He is a patsy and deep down inside most of you know it.

Winx's photo
Thu 10/23/08 09:44 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 10/23/08 09:46 AM





The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

EEK... Once again the smoke hides what it is supposed to hide...

B.H. Obama has bought the airtime with an e-nor-u-dik-u-las amount of money... Airtime that will be used to once again fool the american public(I wonder if it will actually fool people)... He has also been spending money on many other things. (go back and check and you will find that his negative adds far outnumber his opponents yet he claims to not be the first to fire).

And ya'll oze puss about the equivlent cost of ONE advertisement used to put clothing on a canditate... while not even considering that the suits worn by Biden alone would cost close to that. (anyone priced that stuff yet) Ya'll can sure do a good job of following that first sheep off the cliff.


But..you are forgetting one thing. People donated money to Obama to do that and expected that money to go towards ads.

I have read the ratio of negative ads. I have read that McCain's ads are more negative. The survey that came out yesterday covered people's perceptions of the negative ads...hope I get this number right....it said that 38% of the people perceived Obama's ads to be negative.

No sheep here, btw.:wink:



That would be because Obama has told them he is not putting out as many negative adds as his opponent... This is balderdash. Obama STARTED with negative adds. During the months preceeding this current part of the campaign independant review groups listed negative adds at 86% Obama adds negative...vs... 43% McCain adds negative... Wonder why it is that Dems can say that green is purple and everyone believes them... The facts don't back it up but yall don't seem to be concerned with those facts.
Everyone seems to be more concerned with making history (i.e. Black President)... I want to see that kind of history... However I want to see it with a REAL black man... Someone with the guts that were shown by a young man that went to an all white university under the guns... Obama is not even close to that class of MAN. He is a patsy and deep down inside most of you know it.


I just read more polls. They are still saying McCain had more negative ads.

Here's what Nielsen says: From June 3, when the primaries ended, through Sept. 7, the most recent reporting period, the McCain campaign ran 76,192 negative ads against Obama. During the same time period, the Obama campaign placed 75,246 negative commercials against McCain.

St. Louis is being bombarded with ads because we are tied in polls. I have seen more negative ads on McCain's parts. They are mean spirited. And you think that I think that because Obama told me he wouldn't.laugh laugh For one, I have never heard him say that!!

Making history i.e. black president? This is your opinion.

All of the people that I know who are voting for him, Dems. and Repubs., are voting for him because of his issues. He is for the middle class. He just happens to be black. And everybody that I know can't stand McCain/Palin.




AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 10/23/08 09:54 AM






The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

EEK... Once again the smoke hides what it is supposed to hide...

B.H. Obama has bought the airtime with an e-nor-u-dik-u-las amount of money... Airtime that will be used to once again fool the american public(I wonder if it will actually fool people)... He has also been spending money on many other things. (go back and check and you will find that his negative adds far outnumber his opponents yet he claims to not be the first to fire).

And ya'll oze puss about the equivlent cost of ONE advertisement used to put clothing on a canditate... while not even considering that the suits worn by Biden alone would cost close to that. (anyone priced that stuff yet) Ya'll can sure do a good job of following that first sheep off the cliff.


But..you are forgetting one thing. People donated money to Obama to do that and expected that money to go towards ads.

I have read the ratio of negative ads. I have read that McCain's ads are more negative. The survey that came out yesterday covered people's perceptions of the negative ads...hope I get this number right....it said that 38% of the people perceived Obama's ads to be negative.

No sheep here, btw.:wink:



That would be because Obama has told them he is not putting out as many negative adds as his opponent... This is balderdash. Obama STARTED with negative adds. During the months preceeding this current part of the campaign independant review groups listed negative adds at 86% Obama adds negative...vs... 43% McCain adds negative... Wonder why it is that Dems can say that green is purple and everyone believes them... The facts don't back it up but yall don't seem to be concerned with those facts.
Everyone seems to be more concerned with making history (i.e. Black President)... I want to see that kind of history... However I want to see it with a REAL black man... Someone with the guts that were shown by a young man that went to an all white university under the guns... Obama is not even close to that class of MAN. He is a patsy and deep down inside most of you know it.


I just read more polls. They are still saying McCain had more negative ads.

Here's what Nielsen says: From June 3, when the primaries ended, through Sept. 7, the most recent reporting period, the McCain campaign ran 76,192 negative ads against Obama. During the same time period, the Obama campaign placed 75,246 negative commercials against McCain.

St. Louis is being bombarded with ads because we are tied in polls. I have seen more negative ads on McCain's parts. They are mean spirited. And you think that I think that because Obama told me he wouldn't.laugh laugh For one, I have never heard him say that!!

Making history i.e. black president? This is your opinion.

All of the people that I know who are voting for him, Dems. and Repubs., are voting for him because of his issues. He is for the middle class. He just happens to be black. And everybody that I know can't stand McCain/Palin.





Polls are not facts... They are a collection of peoples opinions... Got to check the actual facts. If I lived my life by the polls I would be bouncing around like a popcornfart...

Show me... Show me... Show me... Dig up his past history of WHAT HE HAS ACTUALLY STOOD FOR, VOTED FOR and ACCOMPLISHED... Bet it don't come anywhere near helping the middle class... I can make that bet cause I HAVE checked... I reckon that the US might be fixin to trade a milk cow for a bag of magic beans... Ceptin we all know that Grimm was tellin a tale and that beanstalks don't really lead to a magic castle full of gold.

Mrtap's photo
Thu 10/23/08 09:55 AM


Crap forgot I hate shoppinggrumble grumble
Well duh... you pay someone to do it for you laugh

want to shop for me:smile:

Winx's photo
Thu 10/23/08 09:58 AM







The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

EEK... Once again the smoke hides what it is supposed to hide...

B.H. Obama has bought the airtime with an e-nor-u-dik-u-las amount of money... Airtime that will be used to once again fool the american public(I wonder if it will actually fool people)... He has also been spending money on many other things. (go back and check and you will find that his negative adds far outnumber his opponents yet he claims to not be the first to fire).

And ya'll oze puss about the equivlent cost of ONE advertisement used to put clothing on a canditate... while not even considering that the suits worn by Biden alone would cost close to that. (anyone priced that stuff yet) Ya'll can sure do a good job of following that first sheep off the cliff.


But..you are forgetting one thing. People donated money to Obama to do that and expected that money to go towards ads.

I have read the ratio of negative ads. I have read that McCain's ads are more negative. The survey that came out yesterday covered people's perceptions of the negative ads...hope I get this number right....it said that 38% of the people perceived Obama's ads to be negative.

No sheep here, btw.:wink:



That would be because Obama has told them he is not putting out as many negative adds as his opponent... This is balderdash. Obama STARTED with negative adds. During the months preceeding this current part of the campaign independant review groups listed negative adds at 86% Obama adds negative...vs... 43% McCain adds negative... Wonder why it is that Dems can say that green is purple and everyone believes them... The facts don't back it up but yall don't seem to be concerned with those facts.
Everyone seems to be more concerned with making history (i.e. Black President)... I want to see that kind of history... However I want to see it with a REAL black man... Someone with the guts that were shown by a young man that went to an all white university under the guns... Obama is not even close to that class of MAN. He is a patsy and deep down inside most of you know it.


I just read more polls. They are still saying McCain had more negative ads.

Here's what Nielsen says: From June 3, when the primaries ended, through Sept. 7, the most recent reporting period, the McCain campaign ran 76,192 negative ads against Obama. During the same time period, the Obama campaign placed 75,246 negative commercials against McCain.

St. Louis is being bombarded with ads because we are tied in polls. I have seen more negative ads on McCain's parts. They are mean spirited. And you think that I think that because Obama told me he wouldn't.laugh laugh For one, I have never heard him say that!!

Making history i.e. black president? This is your opinion.

All of the people that I know who are voting for him, Dems. and Repubs., are voting for him because of his issues. He is for the middle class. He just happens to be black. And everybody that I know can't stand McCain/Palin.





Polls are not facts... They are a collection of peoples opinions... Got to check the actual facts. If I lived my life by the polls I would be bouncing around like a popcornfart...

Show me... Show me... Show me... Dig up his past history of WHAT HE HAS ACTUALLY STOOD FOR, VOTED FOR and ACCOMPLISHED... Bet it don't come anywhere near helping the middle class... I can make that bet cause I HAVE checked... I reckon that the US might be fixin to trade a milk cow for a bag of magic beans... Ceptin we all know that Grimm was tellin a tale and that beanstalks don't really lead to a magic castle full of gold.


I gave you a reputable poll and I gave you information of what I see on my television.

What you are saying are your opinions.

FYI - I have read every unbiased thing that I can get my hands on.

I like his issues.

Who do you think can do better?


Jill298's photo
Thu 10/23/08 09:59 AM



The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

EEK... Once again the smoke hides what it is supposed to hide...

B.H. Obama has bought the airtime with an e-nor-u-dik-u-las amount of money... Airtime that will be used to once again fool the american public(I wonder if it will actually fool people)... He has also been spending money on many other things. (go back and check and you will find that his negative adds far outnumber his opponents yet he claims to not be the first to fire).

And ya'll oze puss about the equivlent cost of ONE advertisement used to put clothing on a canditate... while not even considering that the suits worn by Biden alone would cost close to that. (anyone priced that stuff yet) Ya'll can sure do a good job of following that first sheep off the cliff.
The money is SUPPOSED to go to ads... commericals, informercials, billboards, etc. That's what it is intended for. It is NOT however inteded for Saks Fifth Avenue or Bloomingdales. So what then... if they win, and she donates all the clothing to Goodwill, what will we have to dress her in next??

Jill298's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:01 AM





The truth is the only reason anyone gets pissed about this kind of stuff is because we can't get away with doing it ourselves.


The only reason anyone gets pissed off is because it's the American way to slime your opponent and the slightest thing is fodder


Not true.

EEK... Once again the smoke hides what it is supposed to hide...

B.H. Obama has bought the airtime with an e-nor-u-dik-u-las amount of money... Airtime that will be used to once again fool the american public(I wonder if it will actually fool people)... He has also been spending money on many other things. (go back and check and you will find that his negative adds far outnumber his opponents yet he claims to not be the first to fire).

And ya'll oze puss about the equivlent cost of ONE advertisement used to put clothing on a canditate... while not even considering that the suits worn by Biden alone would cost close to that. (anyone priced that stuff yet) Ya'll can sure do a good job of following that first sheep off the cliff.


But..you are forgetting one thing. People donated money to Obama to do that and expected that money to go towards ads.

I have read the ratio of negative ads. I have read that McCain's ads are more negative. The survey that came out yesterday covered people's perceptions of the negative ads...hope I get this number right....it said that 38% of the people perceived Obama's ads to be negative.

No sheep here, btw.:wink:



That would be because Obama has told them he is not putting out as many negative adds as his opponent... This is balderdash. Obama STARTED with negative adds. During the months preceeding this current part of the campaign independant review groups listed negative adds at 86% Obama adds negative...vs... 43% McCain adds negative... Wonder why it is that Dems can say that green is purple and everyone believes them... The facts don't back it up but yall don't seem to be concerned with those facts.
Everyone seems to be more concerned with making history (i.e. Black President)... I want to see that kind of history... However I want to see it with a REAL black man... Someone with the guts that were shown by a young man that went to an all white university under the guns... Obama is not even close to that class of MAN. He is a patsy and deep down inside most of you know it.
Are you friggin serious??? "BUT HE STARTED IT!!"grumble

Jill298's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:05 AM
Where is this "ALL WHITE University you speak of??" And what in the hell does him having to go to an all White school have to do with him being not being a good Black man???? Holy Cow man... That's a pretty big leap.

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:09 AM
Just remember... No matter how you slice it a POLL is a crossectional peek at the current OPINION of a selection of the active population.

OPINION... not FACT... For facts you have to actuall dig up the data and look at it.

Just because 10,000 sheep belive the dog will eat them does not mean the dog will actually eat them... This is what the dog counts on to control the herd.

When you list the number of ads each canditate had... and then break that list down by the number of actual NEGATIVE ads vs POSITIVE ads you find that B.H. OBAMA did in FACT have 86% of his initial adds against the Republicans as NEGATIVE. While McCain in the same period did in FACT have only 43% of his ads as negative.

Now of course they have hit the point where money makes a big diference. (Dems have an average of 4 times as much) this means that in order to be competetive Obama can afford NICER adds yet McCain can not... (it is well know in political circles that negative adds are more effective).


Mrtap's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:13 AM
Obama is a puppet Goes from 1not even one term in the senate to trying to be pres.

Edwards had stepped on some toes and got kick to the side. I would of voted for him.

I am a true independent but this election is all about history making instead of the issues.

The main issues everyone was jumping on is the war now you don't here nothing about it.

The money crisis started under Clinton and just now riped. But we still bailed them out grumble grumble

That is what piss's me off the most is we keep bail the bigwigs out at the cost of the future.

I vote for ?????? the chicken

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Thu 10/23/08 10:13 AM
You know what i find funny.... The same people that cliam that the DNC "must" have done their homework on Obama being a naturalized citizen, and the same people that claim that his ties to Bill Ayers, is irrelivent, or his once practicing the muslim faith, or his ties for a hateful preacher, are the same ones attack the RNC for spending excess money on Palin...

Interesting....

VERY interesting....

Winx's photo
Thu 10/23/08 10:14 AM

Where is this "ALL WHITE University you speak of??" And what in the hell does him having to go to an all White school have to do with him being not being a good Black man???? Holy Cow man... That's a pretty big leap.


Somehow I missed that part. slaphead

Adventure, where do you get off saying that he's a patsy and I know it. I don't even come close to knowing it. He had it rough when he was younger. He worked hard to get where he's at.