One day a group of the most evil got together and decided that man had really made a mess of the earth above and that they could do better...
... and they all agreed that no longer should GODs creation of man and women be the only man of its kind.

... They picked their leader Satan, to go tell GOD, that they were done with Him.

So Satan walked up to the edge of heaven and asked for an audience with him. Satan said, "God, we've decided that we no longer need you.

See, we can make the earth shake and make the mountains fall to earth. We can make the rocks in the heavens to come crashing down to earth. We can make the winds blow so hard, and pick up anything and move it to and fro, from here to there. We can make the moon turn red or black so its light can not been seen by men from the earth. So why don't you just go on and well take it from here."

God listened patiently and after the Satan was done talking, God said,
"Very well! How about this", GOD said? "Let's have a man making contest". Show me you can make a man, just like the way I did, like the way I made Adam, and only better, I will turn away. To which the Satan replied, "OK, great!"

And Satan said, "Sure, no problem" with a sheepish grin on his lips, he proceeded to bend down and grabbed himself a big handful of dirt.

God just looked at him, shook his head and said, with the most serious of faces


"No, no, no, no, OH nooo Satan. Thats my dirt.
You have to get your own dirt!"

Touche

He needs to give Alan Guth a call.

Inflation theory; "How to make dirt from nothing"

Scientists are even talking about possibly doing this in a lab.

You might wonder why they would need a lab if they are going to create something from nothing.

Well, the catch is that they must first produce 'nothing'!

Nothing is not easy to produce in this world because this world is so full of something.

But if God took everything away and left us with nothing, then we'd have nothing to make something from!



Ask Jeanniebean, she understands how to make something out of nothing.

Most women do!

That's news to me.

I have always said that NOTHING does not exist.

I could be wrong.

If nothing does exist, then we are it.

Everything is vibrational energy and consciousness.

Things are imaginary.

Everything that you believe exists is a holographic projection.

Even our bodies and brains.

"We live in the sunlit world of what we believe to be reality.

But there is, unseen by most, an underworld...

one that is just as real but not as brightly lit.

A dark side. "

The dark side is here waiting for us to enter,

Waiting to enter us.

and then Satan said F#ck You god!.... and went ahead and created Jurassic Park....

I know you have.

But that's actually Alan Guth's theory.

If you create 'nothing' it instantly becomes 'something' spontaneously!

So I guess there's a fine line between claiming that nothing cannot exist, and the idea that nothing automatically becomes something.

You'll have to take the details up with Alan Guth.

I have a headhead.

(note:), just as a heads-up, Alan Guth refers to 'nothing' as the 'false vacuum', where as 'something', is described as a 'true vacuum'.

These terms come from the mathematical descriptions of energy curves in Higgs Fields.

The physics is quite impressive actual. It makes sense to physicists who understand the phase transitions of materials. In particularly with the thermodynamic concept of 'latent heat'.

I won't get into the details, but Alan Guth actually showed mathematically why 'nothing' (a false vacuum) is unstable and must necessarily decay into 'something' (a true vacuum).

It's a quite interesting theory that actually makes sense in the context of the laws of physics.

Alan Guth has shown how this entire universe can spring into being without violating the energy conservation laws of physics.

In other words, the universe truly is the ulimate free lunch!

And there's no need for a creator to bring previously existing dirt into the playground.

You didn't finish the story...

So Satan got his own dirt and made a better man and God turned away.

In truth though this story is actaully quite a farce. It's been around for quite some time in various forms.

It's making a joke of atheists, in particular scientific-minded atheists.

The implication is that atheists (or scientists) think they can do without God.

But the point that is missing is that Atheists accept death. They have no problem accepting that they die when their physical body dies. So it's not like they are claiming that they don't need a God in the sense that religious people need a God.

Religious people need a God to avoid death.

So there's a major flaw in the whole joke.

Of course, this particular version didn't specifically mention either atheists or scientists specificially. In fact, this version specifically referred to 'evil' people, and Satan.

Just because someone is an atheist or a scientist it doesn't mean that they are evil. So this is a version of the story that has really gone south.

Finally, just for the record, although I am a scientists, I'm not an atheists, and neither am I evil.

In fact, I would never even consider that I could exist without 'god'.

However, I do have a totally different picture of what 'god' is than the Biblical mythology.

In fact, it has always been my position that it is indeed the Christians who believe that they can exist without God.

They are the ones that claim that Hell is to be removed from God's presence.

Well to me, that suggests that they believe they can somehow exist without God. So I guess it's the Christians who don't need God for their existence. They only need him as a Santa Claus.

As a Pantheist I feel that it is utterly absurd to think that I could even exist in the absence of God. God is as much a part of me as I am of Her. We are inseperable and we need each other mutually.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled Comedy Show.

Are invisibly invisible people evil, too?

Abra wrote and I quote:

"....The physics is quite impressive actual. It makes sense to physicists who understand the phase transitions of materials. In particularly with the thermodynamic concept of 'latent heat'.

I won't get into the details, but Alan Guth actually showed mathematically why 'nothing' (a false vacuum) is unstable and must necessarily decay into 'something' (a true vacuum).

It's a quite interesting theory that actually makes sense in the context of the laws of physics.

Alan Guth has shown how this entire universe can spring into being without violating the energy conservation laws of physics.

In other words, the universe truly is the ulimate free lunch!

And there's no need for a creator to bring previously existing dirt into the playground....."

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Abra?

Quantum physics.. the laws of physics.....science....all of it .....

God came up with it ALL...first

Abra wrote:

"....But the point that is missing is that Atheists accept death. They have no problem accepting that they die when their physical body dies. So it's not like they are claiming that they don't need a God in the sense that religious people need a God.

Religious people need a God to avoid death...."

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Abra... after we leave this physcial house we dwell in...
there will be a physical death to the Body...

yes...



but it doesn't just end there.....

the

Soul

still

WILL

live

on ......


SOMEWHERE.

Invisibly invisible people
haven't shown a visible sign
to know if their righteous or evil
or somewhat innately divine

They hide behind nothing
for there's nothing to see
like the phantom of opera
in an empty marquee

They voice their opinions
with a whispering wind
it's hard to discern
if they've ever sinned

They've never been caught
in the act of a crime
for no one can see
how they're spending their time

They post angry faces
to show their emotions
but nobody knows
if they honor devotions

So we'll have to guess
of their hidden intent
and no one will know
if they need to repent

Well, the soul can't live on without God, unless you want to confess that the Atheists are right.

That's my only point kiddo.

Threatening people that they can be rejected by God is a bad thing to do.

Shame, shame, shame.

Let God decide who she will accept and reject.

And quit shoving ancient mythologies down God's throat.

It's not polite.

Let God speak to Her own children.

Invisibly invisible
I lived a quiet life
Evil never bothered me
Till I came unto this site

Now I get a daily questionnaire
Asking for my sins
Who committed most of them
Let’s see who today wins

That is a childish spirit
Taking possession of my mind
Usually I’m not like that
I’m compassionate and kind

But then, who am I to judge
How others perceive me
I better get back in my hole
Where no one can see

That makes total sense to me. I have always said that the reason 'something' exists is because it is impossible for 'nothing' to exist.

Therefore, 'something' exists because of the instability of 'nothing.'

""Abra... after we leave this physcial house we dwell in...
there will be a physical death to the Body...

yes...



but it doesn't just end there.....

the

Soul

still

WILL

live

on ......


SOMEWHERE""




AMNEN and AMEN ;
(In general)these EARTHLY SOULS have an awesome opportunity, to get to know the love of GOD, but they continue to BLASPHEMY him, and turn their hearts from his love and grace and forgiveness, AND TURN THEIR BACKS TO HIM. So what is a supreme- being going to do except let them go on to their deaths and to their own fates with damnation.

Who would want for example a thief, a liar, a verbally abusive soul in your home - you'd ask them to leave and wouldn't let them back in until they repented and apologized and came to their senses - ya know. It's not to late even now for atheists and almost any like minded non-Christians to seek out GOD and his grace and gift of salvation.

Would not an all powerful god have enough salvation to go around... Enough 'rooms' in his 'mansion' to accomodate all mankind... and more?

Why must you continually limit god to such a narrow view?... while claiming he is greater than all things?

""Abra... after we leave this physcial house we dwell in...
there will be a physical death to the Body...

yes...



but it doesn't just end there.....

the

Soul

still

WILL

live

on ......


SOMEWHERE""




AMNEN and AMEN ; these EARTHLY SOULS have an awesome opportunity, to get to know the love of GOD, but they continue to BLASPHEMY him and turn their hearts from his love and grace and forgiveness, AND TURN THEIR BACKS TO HIM, so what is a supreme being going to do except let them go onto to their deaths and their own fates with damnation. Who would want a thief a liar a verbally abusive soul in your home - you ask them to leave and wouldn't let them back in until they repented and apologized and came to their senses - ya know. It's not to late even now for atheists and a like minded non-Christians to seek GOD and his grace and gift of salvation.

;.;.;.;.;.;.;;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;.;
Would not an all powerful god have enough salvation to go around... Enough 'rooms' in his 'mansion' to accomodate all mankind... and more?

Why must you continually limit god to such a narrow view?... while claiming he is greater than all things?
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According to Christ, GOD has many mansions that and he shall make a place for those that will live for all eternity. History in the BIBLE shows that when given instructions by GOD to build, to each king /disciple, etc he commanded, it was always big enough to suit the needs of those that needed to use it - like, a temple, or ARk, or Mansions in heaven. Christ and Moses and Paul all give great accounts of these structures in Genesis or even revelations.



Christ died and the sacrifice has been made for all mankind whom 'accepts the gift'. Free will, free thinking, people each one, all decide for themselves whether they will accept GODS Great Salvation. It is their for the taking.

The god YOU talk about is so mean, I wouldn't touch him with a vice grip.
If god is all-loving as the bible claims, then it is not YOUR god.

Such a ruler he is lol