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Topic: And GOD said that ...
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Thu 10/23/08 01:30 PM
///That makes total sense to me. I have always said that the reason 'something' exists is because it is impossible for 'nothing' to exist.

Therefore, 'something' exists because of the instability of 'nothing.' ///
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sO IS GOD AND IMPOSSIBILITY OR IS IT POSSIBLE HE DOES EXIST?


What did she say?? I M P O S S I B L E - nothing is impossible with GOD!!! AMEN



iS THERE laws GOVERNING OPPRESSION IN THE UNIVERSE?

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Thu 10/23/08 02:45 PM


iS THERE laws GOVERNING OPPRESSION IN THE UNIVERSE?


Yes there are.

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Mon 10/27/08 08:56 AM
are these laws finite ? man makes laws but the universe has infinitely finite laws pre-existing, and when either one(s) are not followed / broken does this cause and affect always rule into something chaotic as a rule, thus following a new law of the same universe?

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Mon 10/27/08 05:34 PM

are these laws finite ? man makes laws but the universe has infinitely finite laws pre-existing, and when either one(s) are not followed / broken does this cause and affect always rule into something chaotic as a rule, thus following a new law of the same universe?


Infinitely finite? What does that mean?

Your question is extremely confusing. I don't understand the question.

JB

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Mon 10/27/08 09:22 PM

You didn't finish the story...

So Satan got his own dirt and made a better man and God turned away.


In truth though this story is actaully quite a farce. It's been around for quite some time in various forms.

It's making a joke of atheists, in particular scientific-minded atheists.

The implication is that atheists (or scientists) think they can do without God.

But the point that is missing is that Atheists accept death. They have no problem accepting that they die when their physical body dies. So it's not like they are claiming that they don't need a God in the sense that religious people need a God.

Religious people need a God to avoid death.

So there's a major flaw in the whole joke.

Of course, this particular version didn't specifically mention either atheists or scientists specificially. In fact, this version specifically referred to 'evil' people, and Satan.

Just because someone is an atheist or a scientist it doesn't mean that they are evil. So this is a version of the story that has really gone south.

Finally, just for the record, although I am a scientists, I'm not an atheists, and neither am I evil.

In fact, I would never even consider that I could exist without 'god'.

However, I do have a totally different picture of what 'god' is than the Biblical mythology.

In fact, it has always been my position that it is indeed the Christians who believe that they can exist without God.

They are the ones that claim that Hell is to be removed from God's presence.

Well to me, that suggests that they believe they can somehow exist without God. So I guess it's the Christians who don't need God for their existence. They only need him as a Santa Claus.

As a Pantheist I feel that it is utterly absurd to think that I could even exist in the absence of God. God is as much a part of me as I am of Her. We are inseperable and we need each other mutually. flowerforyou

You may now return to your regularly scheduled Comedy Show. bigsmile





Being absent from the presence of God does not mean you cease to exist. My children can be absent from my presence, but that does not mean they no longer exist.

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Mon 10/27/08 09:27 PM

Well, the soul can't live on without God, unless you want to confess that the Atheists are right. :wink:

I once heard a preacher say that eternity in hell is not acurate. He said that those in hell will just burn up and cease to exist. Like the "eternal flame" that burns until all the fuel is gone.

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