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Topic: lets see how many people take the time to understand this, b
Jess642's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:15 PM


Ok lets first start by saying Yes!! I completely understand what you are saying. However the words "white pride" could be taken as inflammatory.

White Supremacy groups use those words. I would just say that you have Self pride, if you are truly not a racist. I am very proud of who I am but you just seem to be blowing your own horn and Im wondering WHY you felt the need to post this?

JMOflowerforyou


I posted this, simply to make the point that all people need to look at reality, and come to understand that we all have to live together, unless you are a hermit, and that we all need to be proud of who we are...fact of the matter is, EVERY race, has goo/ bad people...and there is no sense in holding the anger from something that was so long ago...anger of ancestors and there deeds, should be let go....they serve no useful purpuose and are doing nothing to better society as a whole...
If enough people would realize this, then we could all put in together, and work to progress society out of the past.....


Why are you separating by race?

Why does there have to be anything other than PEOPLE...

one earth... one address.

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:16 PM

white pride vs the n.a.a.c.p

what a pay per view event that would be:smile:


How about white pride, WITH N.A.A.C.P, a coalition to get more people out of racist living?
I think it could work

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:19 PM

There is nothing to be proud of (or ashamed of) when it comes to color of one's skin.



My point exactly....I am white, country boy, but I have black brothers, mexican brothers,etc....we all know we are of a different race, but we see it as nothing...it is a matter of perspective

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:23 PM

Are you proud of having brown hair?

Are you proud of having two eyes?

Are you proud of having legs?

Are you proud of being a male person?

Are you proud of being single?

Are you proud of having access to a computer?

Are you proud of two ears?


Stoopid questions?

Hmmm.. well, what the blue blazes does a person born with less melanin in his subcutaneous derma find that something to be proud of...

Perhaps proud to be doing more for less fortunate, proud to help kids with no dad as a mentor, proud to do volunteer work at an aged care facility... that would make sense to me.


ALL OF THE ABOVE...I am proud, in a respectful, thankful way to be in good working order, and to have the heart that allows me to reach out to people from kids to elderly...
I like to learn as much as possible, as fear is stemmed from not knowing something...the unexpected

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Thu 10/16/08 02:25 PM

I have friends/aquaintences of all sorts of different races, black, mexican, egyptian, jewish, etc...I get along with anyone of any race, as long as they are respectful....the only people I have a problem with are those who have a problem with me...and those who try to act like something they are not...

I believe the real you is the best way to be, and I believe in being proud of who you are...

So, again, I am NOT racist, but I am a firm believer in "White Pride"...no different then "Brown Pride", Black Pride"etc.

"PRIDE", in this sense, simply means you are proud to be the color that you are, but you respect all people except for those who disrespect you.

Anyone want to add other comments tohelp state the point I am aiming at more clearly, or is this sufficiently self explanitory?



If Pride is colorless, then you can just say you have pride for yourself without saying a color

crayonredd's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:27 PM

I have friends/aquaintences of all sorts of different races, black, mexican, egyptian, jewish, etc...I get along with anyone of any race, as long as they are respectful....the only people I have a problem with are those who have a problem with me...and those who try to act like something they are not...

I believe the real you is the best way to be, and I believe in being proud of who you are...

So, again, I am NOT racist, but I am a firm believer in "White Pride"...no different then "Brown Pride", Black Pride"etc.

"PRIDE", in this sense, simply means you are proud to be the color that you are, but you respect all people except for those who disrespect you.

Anyone want to add other comments tohelp state the point I am aiming at more clearly, or is this sufficiently self explanitory?


i hate to tell you this but jewish is not a race its a religion... you could say hebrew... although you can be a gentile converted to judaism

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:29 PM



Ok lets first start by saying Yes!! I completely understand what you are saying. However the words "white pride" could be taken as inflammatory.

White Supremacy groups use those words. I would just say that you have Self pride, if you are truly not a racist. I am very proud of who I am but you just seem to be blowing your own horn and Im wondering WHY you felt the need to post this?

JMOflowerforyou


I posted this, simply to make the point that all people need to look at reality, and come to understand that we all have to live together, unless you are a hermit, and that we all need to be proud of who we are...fact of the matter is, EVERY race, has goo/ bad people...and there is no sense in holding the anger from something that was so long ago...anger of ancestors and there deeds, should be let go....they serve no useful purpuose and are doing nothing to better society as a whole...
If enough people would realize this, then we could all put in together, and work to progress society out of the past.....


Why are you separating by race?

Why does there have to be anything other than PEOPLE...

one earth... one address.


Pay attention to the details....I am saying the answer in my previous posts....that is the whole point....each person realize who they are, and then figure out ways to see others equal to yourself...

For example, the church I went to in Nashville Tn, is "INTER-RACIAL, INTER-DENOMINATIONAL, WITH AN INTER-NATIONAL MISSION"

It boils down to, whoever you are, any color, any financial background, all classes, homeless to multi-millionaires, ALL are welcome....the only people who would go to a church like that, are ones who realize that all races can peacefully co exist in a world that wants to cling onto racial issues and differences

blackxbird's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:31 PM




Ok lets first start by saying Yes!! I completely understand what you are saying. However the words "white pride" could be taken as inflammatory.

White Supremacy groups use those words. I would just say that you have Self pride, if you are truly not a racist. I am very proud of who I am but you just seem to be blowing your own horn and Im wondering WHY you felt the need to post this?

JMOflowerforyou


I posted this, simply to make the point that all people need to look at reality, and come to understand that we all have to live together, unless you are a hermit, and that we all need to be proud of who we are...fact of the matter is, EVERY race, has goo/ bad people...and there is no sense in holding the anger from something that was so long ago...anger of ancestors and there deeds, should be let go....they serve no useful purpuose and are doing nothing to better society as a whole...
If enough people would realize this, then we could all put in together, and work to progress society out of the past.....


Why are you separating by race?

Why does there have to be anything other than PEOPLE...

one earth... one address.


Pay attention to the details....I am saying the answer in my previous posts....that is the whole point....each person realize who they are, and then figure out ways to see others equal to yourself...

For example, the church I went to in Nashville Tn, is "INTER-RACIAL, INTER-DENOMINATIONAL, WITH AN INTER-NATIONAL MISSION"

It boils down to, whoever you are, any color, any financial background, all classes, homeless to multi-millionaires, ALL are welcome....the only people who would go to a church like that, are ones who realize that all races can peacefully co exist in a world that wants to cling onto racial issues and differences


Okay, but aren't you "clinging onto racial issues and differences" by using the term "WHITE pride"?

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:32 PM


I have friends/aquaintences of all sorts of different races, black, mexican, egyptian, jewish, etc...I get along with anyone of any race, as long as they are respectful....the only people I have a problem with are those who have a problem with me...and those who try to act like something they are not...

I believe the real you is the best way to be, and I believe in being proud of who you are...

So, again, I am NOT racist, but I am a firm believer in "White Pride"...no different then "Brown Pride", Black Pride"etc.

"PRIDE", in this sense, simply means you are proud to be the color that you are, but you respect all people except for those who disrespect you.

Anyone want to add other comments tohelp state the point I am aiming at more clearly, or is this sufficiently self explanitory?


i hate to tell you this but jewish is not a race its a religion... you could say hebrew... although you can be a gentile converted to judaism


Yes, I know, but many people treat jewish, like it is a race, so I talk about it as such..

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:35 PM





Ok lets first start by saying Yes!! I completely understand what you are saying. However the words "white pride" could be taken as inflammatory.

White Supremacy groups use those words. I would just say that you have Self pride, if you are truly not a racist. I am very proud of who I am but you just seem to be blowing your own horn and Im wondering WHY you felt the need to post this?

JMOflowerforyou


I posted this, simply to make the point that all people need to look at reality, and come to understand that we all have to live together, unless you are a hermit, and that we all need to be proud of who we are...fact of the matter is, EVERY race, has goo/ bad people...and there is no sense in holding the anger from something that was so long ago...anger of ancestors and there deeds, should be let go....they serve no useful purpuose and are doing nothing to better society as a whole...
If enough people would realize this, then we could all put in together, and work to progress society out of the past.....


Why are you separating by race?

Why does there have to be anything other than PEOPLE...

one earth... one address.


Pay attention to the details....I am saying the answer in my previous posts....that is the whole point....each person realize who they are, and then figure out ways to see others equal to yourself...

For example, the church I went to in Nashville Tn, is "INTER-RACIAL, INTER-DENOMINATIONAL, WITH AN INTER-NATIONAL MISSION"

It boils down to, whoever you are, any color, any financial background, all classes, homeless to multi-millionaires, ALL are welcome....the only people who would go to a church like that, are ones who realize that all races can peacefully co exist in a world that wants to cling onto racial issues and differences


Okay, but aren't you "clinging onto racial issues and differences" by using the term "WHITE pride"?


That is where the "coalition" aspect comes in...
White, black, mexican, cuban, native american etc PRIDE....all join together, to show people that it is cool to have pride in yourself, and your heritage, but that racism, can be avoided, by not keeping the deeds of the past alive and in use today

Jess642's photo
Thu 10/16/08 02:43 PM
I have paid attention through every one of your posts... and you separate people into races and cultures, and attempt quite poorly to justify yourself, and your masked racism, by attempting to elevate yourself by being PROUD to be white and have friends of other races...

If you weren't racist you wouldn't be capable of identifying colour... you would be colour blind, so to speak.

Your thinly veiled attempts at magnaminious phrasing falls far short of the glaringly obvious attempt at deception.

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Thu 10/16/08 03:23 PM

I have paid attention through every one of your posts... and you separate people into races and cultures, and attempt quite poorly to justify yourself, and your masked racism, by attempting to elevate yourself by being PROUD to be white and have friends of other races...

If you weren't racist you wouldn't be capable of identifying colour... you would be colour blind, so to speak.

Your thinly veiled attempts at magnaminious phrasing falls far short of the glaringly obvious attempt at deception.


I have to admit your attemps at making me look racist have been given a valient effort...but failed none the less....
Color blind?
That is something I have heard many times and I still think it is so stupid on a number of levels..you can tell your mind not to see the color, but simply by telling your mind that, in and of itself, you have noticed the race,(color), therefore making this an impossible reality..

Stevie Wonder is blind and even he can see this....there will never be color blindness with anyone, as it is literally impossible, but there can be people who just don't care....
I don't have to be a "wigger" to hang with black people...My nick name in Nashville is "White Boy", because I am white, it is a term that many use in a racist way, so if I don't let it affect me, in a negitive way, but instead make a joke of it...in most cases, it shows poeple that I am cool with pretty much whatever, as long as I am not being disrespected....it shows others that they are not going to fall down dead if they ignore those racist comments, or in my case make jokes with it...And, anyone who is smart, in the least, able to comprehend simple concepts, can catch on, that it is stupid and immature to cling onto the issues of the past..

Though it seems contradictary to the mission goal, you sometimes have to use segments of the past, to prove your point today...
If you and I were to meet up and hang out, then I could explain my thoughts, and opinions, and you could see me in action of daily life...then you could have solid ground to implicate, or offer evidence, which ever you found as to the state of my racism...

Now, to put all the cards on the table, I used to be racist, against all who were not white, but after living in Nashville, and hanging out with those that I did, I have learned ways to accept everyone.....Now I treat everyone equal....if you act like an idiot, act stupid, act smart, act like you have a heart, etc, I treat you with the same manner I see you treating people....
Just so you know, I have no direct issue with you,actually, you sound quite intelligent, but my beliefs will never sway...may update my veiws, and values, and morals as I learn more and become older, but the thoughts are here to stay...

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Fri 10/17/08 03:46 AM
Nothing wrong with bring happy about who you are and the culture you are from, but honestly, if I overheard you saying "White Pride," I would look at you funny and think you are racist. It just sounds wrong.

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Fri 10/17/08 04:47 PM

Nothing wrong with bring happy about who you are and the culture you are from, but honestly, if I overheard you saying "White Pride," I would look at you funny and think you are racist. It just sounds wrong.


I thought the same thing when I was around people of all races ...mostly people who knew me...then one of my black friends and I decided it would be funny if he yelled out "white power", and then I yell out "black power"...

When you can take people of an opposite race, and make jokes like that, it is then that you realize how goofy it sounds to actually be racist...
we made jokes like that all the time...
He told me alot of jokes that were racist against blacks...and he is black...so I told him jokes, making fun of white people...
That is how you know you have a good friend...when you can take something that most find offensive, and make them laugh with what they are offended at...it is just another step to slow racisim down...

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