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Topic: What do you think of Gay Marriage ?
Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 10/16/08 12:20 PM
I'm saying a marriage shouldn't be any different that a "union", as far as legalities are concerned. But they are two different things. One is a man and a woman, one is a man and man, or woman and woman.

SportsNut2007 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 817	Thu 10/16/08 12:21 PM
Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it. Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc. I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs. Yes...but you're comparing apples to oranges. Gays have made progress despite the oppression posed against...I respect that ! However...I'm not going to like it when a gay couple sues my Church because they refused to allow them to get marriaged there. Nor when the schools began teaching young boys that it's okay for two boys to get marriaged !

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 10/16/08 12:22 PM
Roast beef on bread or turkey on bread are totally different... but they're still sandwhiches I'm just trying to say that they are different things, but should be treated the same... Make sense?

blackxbird Joined Wed 10/15/08 Posts: 129	Thu 10/16/08 12:22 PM
Here's my thoughts on it... "Marriage" is a religious term for the joining of a man and a woman. I think that gay couples should have every right that "married" couples get, as far as legalities go. Taxes, health benefits, inheritance, etc. However, I don't think they should call it a marriage. That's really what is pissing everyone off. I think the gay community would get a lot further alot quicker if they just quit calling it a marriage. Most religions do not permit "Gay Marriages". So instead of trying to change people's ideas on religion, just call it something else. Civil Union. Whatever you want to call it. I think the gay community is just fighting the wrong fight. Fight for your rights, not the term it's called. Well....wait ! I said that I support it because, for some....it's happiness that they may not acquire thru any other means. However doing it for tax advantages, and the rest of the nonsense is just a load of crap. I'm sorry... you missed my point. I NEVER said they, either gay or heterosexual couples should get married because of tax advantages. What I meant was gay couples, married, union, whatever you want to call it SHOULD be entitled to all of the benefits heterosexual couples get for being married. Right now, they can't ( in most states) They are fighting to call it a "marriage" when it's not. A "marriage" started to be joined, a man and a woman, under God, Gods, Goddesses, whatever you believe. So quit trying to call it a marriage. Call it something else, but give them the SAME rights are heterosexual couples get. Sorry, marriage is no longer a strictly religious institution. It is secular in that many laws are built around it. Giving homosexuals "everything but" the title of marriage is discrimination... separate but equal, anyone?

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 10/16/08 12:23 PM
Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it. Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc. I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs. Yes...but you're comparing apples to oranges. Gays have made progress despite the oppression posed against...I respect that ! However...I'm not going to like it when a gay couple sues my Church because they refused to allow them to get marriaged there. Nor when the schools began teaching young boys that it's okay for two boys to get marriaged ! Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues.

blackxbird Joined Wed 10/15/08 Posts: 129	Thu 10/16/08 12:24 PM
Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it. Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc. I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs. Yes...but you're comparing apples to oranges. Gays have made progress despite the oppression posed against...I respect that ! However...I'm not going to like it when a gay couple sues my Church because they refused to allow them to get marriaged there. Nor when the schools began teaching young boys that it's okay for two boys to get marriaged ! I'm not sure what your point is.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 10/16/08 12:25 PM
Here's my thoughts on it... "Marriage" is a religious term for the joining of a man and a woman. I think that gay couples should have every right that "married" couples get, as far as legalities go. Taxes, health benefits, inheritance, etc. However, I don't think they should call it a marriage. That's really what is pissing everyone off. I think the gay community would get a lot further alot quicker if they just quit calling it a marriage. Most religions do not permit "Gay Marriages". So instead of trying to change people's ideas on religion, just call it something else. Civil Union. Whatever you want to call it. I think the gay community is just fighting the wrong fight. Fight for your rights, not the term it's called. Well....wait ! I said that I support it because, for some....it's happiness that they may not acquire thru any other means. However doing it for tax advantages, and the rest of the nonsense is just a load of crap. I'm sorry... you missed my point. I NEVER said they, either gay or heterosexual couples should get married because of tax advantages. What I meant was gay couples, married, union, whatever you want to call it SHOULD be entitled to all of the benefits heterosexual couples get for being married. Right now, they can't ( in most states) They are fighting to call it a "marriage" when it's not. A "marriage" started to be joined, a man and a woman, under God, Gods, Goddesses, whatever you believe. So quit trying to call it a marriage. Call it something else, but give them the SAME rights are heterosexual couples get. Sorry, marriage is no longer a strictly religious institution. It is secular in that many laws are built around it. Giving homosexuals "everything but" the title of marriage is discrimination... separate but equal, anyone? They are seperate but equal... They are not the same thing. The joining of a man and a woman is not the same as a man and a man. I'm NOT saying one is wrong and the other right. I'm just saying they are not the same thing. Why fight for the term??? It doesn't make any sense. I'm all for Gay rights. I'm also for human rights.

blackxbird Joined Wed 10/15/08 Posts: 129	Thu 10/16/08 12:26 PM
Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it. Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc. I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs. Ummmmm....was not denying them right their. I said I have a "moral" problem with it, but also stated that as humans they have rights. If I didn't say it, I am saying it now. Denying them marriage would be denying them rights

SportsNut2007 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 817	Thu 10/16/08 12:26 PM
Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it. Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc. I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs. Yes...but you're comparing apples to oranges. Gays have made progress despite the oppression posed against...I respect that ! However...I'm not going to like it when a gay couple sues my Church because they refused to allow them to get marriaged there. Nor when the schools began teaching young boys that it's okay for two boys to get marriaged ! Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues. They already have...do your research.

writer_gurl Joined Sat 03/01/08 Posts: 7673	Thu 10/16/08 12:26 PM
I don't agree or disagree. If they want to get married they are free to do so...If they don't, then don't...Just don't invite me to the wedding

papersmile Joined Fri 10/12/07 Posts: 5148	Thu 10/16/08 12:26 PM
Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues. how about when a toronto high school teacher was beaten to death, by toronto high school students for the sole reason his being a gay man? how about when adolescents are questioning their own sexual identities and may have discovered that they are gay and/or lesbian and are depressed and/or agonizing? isn't it the duty of the school to ensure that all students are treated equally, fairly, without contempt and to help instill in them a great sense of self-esteem, value and worth?

SportsNut2007 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 817	Thu 10/16/08 12:29 PM
Here's my thoughts on it... "Marriage" is a religious term for the joining of a man and a woman. I think that gay couples should have every right that "married" couples get, as far as legalities go. Taxes, health benefits, inheritance, etc. However, I don't think they should call it a marriage. That's really what is pissing everyone off. I think the gay community would get a lot further alot quicker if they just quit calling it a marriage. Most religions do not permit "Gay Marriages". So instead of trying to change people's ideas on religion, just call it something else. Civil Union. Whatever you want to call it. I think the gay community is just fighting the wrong fight. Fight for your rights, not the term it's called. Well....wait ! I said that I support it because, for some....it's happiness that they may not acquire thru any other means. However doing it for tax advantages, and the rest of the nonsense is just a load of crap. I'm sorry... you missed my point. I NEVER said they, either gay or heterosexual couples should get married because of tax advantages. What I meant was gay couples, married, union, whatever you want to call it SHOULD be entitled to all of the benefits heterosexual couples get for being married. Right now, they can't ( in most states) They are fighting to call it a "marriage" when it's not. A "marriage" started to be joined, a man and a woman, under God, Gods, Goddesses, whatever you believe. So quit trying to call it a marriage. Call it something else, but give them the SAME rights are heterosexual couples get. Sorry, marriage is no longer a strictly religious institution. It is secular in that many laws are built around it. Giving homosexuals "everything but" the title of marriage is discrimination... separate but equal, anyone? I think the way it is now works fine. gays can share a life together, include each other on insurance policies, buy property together and live as a married couple thru a domestic couples contract....what's wrong with that. Why do they have to take it one step further...what else would they get that they are'nt already ?

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 10/16/08 12:30 PM
Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues. how about when a toronto high school teacher was beaten to death, by toronto high school students for the sole reason his being a gay man? how about when adolescents are questioning their own sexual identities and may have discovered that they are gay and/or lesbian and are depressed and/or agonizing? isn't it the duty of the school to ensure that all students are treated equally, fairly, without contempt and to help instill in them a great sense of self-esteem, value and worth? Yes, it's the duty of the school to make sure these kids are safe. However, it is not the duty of the school to tell my son or daughter that "gay marriage" is ok. What really matters is what these kids are being taught at home.

SportsNut2007 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 817	Thu 10/16/08 12:32 PM
I don't agree or disagree. If they want to get married they are free to do so...If they don't, then don't...Just don't invite me to the wedding Why not ? Besides...it's said that most Gay Couples earn more money then traditionals...so I have to believe there would be good eats there,,,lol.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 10/16/08 12:32 PM
Here's my thoughts on it... "Marriage" is a religious term for the joining of a man and a woman. I think that gay couples should have every right that "married" couples get, as far as legalities go. Taxes, health benefits, inheritance, etc. However, I don't think they should call it a marriage. That's really what is pissing everyone off. I think the gay community would get a lot further alot quicker if they just quit calling it a marriage. Most religions do not permit "Gay Marriages". So instead of trying to change people's ideas on religion, just call it something else. Civil Union. Whatever you want to call it. I think the gay community is just fighting the wrong fight. Fight for your rights, not the term it's called. Well....wait ! I said that I support it because, for some....it's happiness that they may not acquire thru any other means. However doing it for tax advantages, and the rest of the nonsense is just a load of crap. I'm sorry... you missed my point. I NEVER said they, either gay or heterosexual couples should get married because of tax advantages. What I meant was gay couples, married, union, whatever you want to call it SHOULD be entitled to all of the benefits heterosexual couples get for being married. Right now, they can't ( in most states) They are fighting to call it a "marriage" when it's not. A "marriage" started to be joined, a man and a woman, under God, Gods, Goddesses, whatever you believe. So quit trying to call it a marriage. Call it something else, but give them the SAME rights are heterosexual couples get. Sorry, marriage is no longer a strictly religious institution. It is secular in that many laws are built around it. Giving homosexuals "everything but" the title of marriage is discrimination... separate but equal, anyone? I think the way it is now works fine. gays can share a life together, include each other on insurance policies, buy property together and live as a married couple thru a domestic couples contract....what's wrong with that. Why do they have to take it one step further...what else would they get that they are'nt already ? Some states don't allow for gay couples to have all of those rights. I think they should. They should fight for those rights. And many feel that they want to be joined as a legal couple, and include their church. They have that right too. It just shouldn't be called a marriage. They will NEVER change the way people consider a marriage.

SportsNut2007 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 817	Thu 10/16/08 12:33 PM
Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues. how about when a toronto high school teacher was beaten to death, by toronto high school students for the sole reason his being a gay man? how about when adolescents are questioning their own sexual identities and may have discovered that they are gay and/or lesbian and are depressed and/or agonizing? isn't it the duty of the school to ensure that all students are treated equally, fairly, without contempt and to help instill in them a great sense of self-esteem, value and worth? Yes, it's the duty of the school to make sure these kids are safe. However, it is not the duty of the school to tell my son or daughter that "gay marriage" is ok. What really matters is what these kids are being taught at home. Yes, but it's already happening...so you've already lost this battle !

SportsNut2007 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 817	Thu 10/16/08 12:37 PM
Here's my thoughts on it... "Marriage" is a religious term for the joining of a man and a woman. I think that gay couples should have every right that "married" couples get, as far as legalities go. Taxes, health benefits, inheritance, etc. However, I don't think they should call it a marriage. That's really what is pissing everyone off. I think the gay community would get a lot further alot quicker if they just quit calling it a marriage. Most religions do not permit "Gay Marriages". So instead of trying to change people's ideas on religion, just call it something else. Civil Union. Whatever you want to call it. I think the gay community is just fighting the wrong fight. Fight for your rights, not the term it's called. Well....wait ! I said that I support it because, for some....it's happiness that they may not acquire thru any other means. However doing it for tax advantages, and the rest of the nonsense is just a load of crap. I'm sorry... you missed my point. I NEVER said they, either gay or heterosexual couples should get married because of tax advantages. What I meant was gay couples, married, union, whatever you want to call it SHOULD be entitled to all of the benefits heterosexual couples get for being married. Right now, they can't ( in most states) They are fighting to call it a "marriage" when it's not. A "marriage" started to be joined, a man and a woman, under God, Gods, Goddesses, whatever you believe. So quit trying to call it a marriage. Call it something else, but give them the SAME rights are heterosexual couples get. Sorry, marriage is no longer a strictly religious institution. It is secular in that many laws are built around it. Giving homosexuals "everything but" the title of marriage is discrimination... separate but equal, anyone? I think the way it is now works fine. gays can share a life together, include each other on insurance policies, buy property together and live as a married couple thru a domestic couples contract....what's wrong with that. Why do they have to take it one step further...what else would they get that they are'nt already ? Some states don't allow for gay couples to have all of those rights. I think they should. They should fight for those rights. And many feel that they want to be joined as a legal couple, and include their church. They have that right too. It just shouldn't be called a marriage. They will NEVER change the way people consider a marriage. Most people won't change there feeling on this. This goes down the road of the guy that thought it was a good idea to make a citizens arrest on a cop that repeatedly parked in handicapp parking. ...It may be legal....but still a stupid idea !

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 10/16/08 12:42 PM
I think everyone should have the right to pursue the genitals of their choice

tanyaann Joined Mon 12/03/07 Posts: 32220	Thu 10/16/08 12:47 PM
<---- gay rights advocate bet i get along with you just fine am totally for it. my only issues are: that there's a problem with the word 'marriage' in that the definition specifically refers to that between a female/male. that a religious institution not be forced to perform a ceremony if it is in direct conflict with what that organization believes. Do I feel that churches should be forced to preform ceremonies... no! who cares about syntex~! hetero-couples get married outside of churches and religion. Who cares about the word! Should they be allowed to live and have the same rights that heterosexual couples have..... absolutely!

CoffeeSonata Joined Sat 10/04/08 Posts: 4054	Thu 10/16/08 12:48 PM
Since im gay, of course want that right..