http://www.factcheck.org/just-the-facts/rezko_reed_reality.html

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

Lets see. Legitimate sources verified authenticity of his birth credentials. The state of Hawaii has verified it. And John McCain has agreed that Obama is a citizen and is qualified to be President.

But you choose to believe unsubstantiated right wing conspiracy theories. Ok by me I guess.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/president/31082739.html?page=2&c=y

---copy--THE FACTS: The tax credit offered by McCain is more generous for the vast majority of people than the current tax break, which they would lose, according to the Tax Policy Center. Now, people don't pay taxes on the health benefits they get from work. Obama's statement gives the impression that $5,000 is all that workers will be getting to help them pay for a health plan, but that's just what the federal government will provide. Economists say most employers would still contribute to their workers' health insurance. The Lewin Group, a health care consulting firm, found that by taxing health benefits but providing a tax credit, the average family would come out $1,411 ahead.

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McCAIN: "Sen. Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money in negative attack ads on me."

THE FACTS: Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money on ads, period — negative or otherwise. Obama is outspending McCain and the Republican Party by more than 2-to-1 in presidential ads. At one point in August, 90 percent of the ads Obama was airing were against McCain. The study by the Wisconsin Advertising Project found that about 34 percent of Obama's ads are now negative.

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OBAMA: "If it sounds incredible that I would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true."

THE FACTS: As a state senator, Obama opposed three legislative efforts, in 2001, 2002 and 2003, to give legal protections to any aborted fetus that showed signs of life. The 2003 measure was virtually identical to a bill President Bush signed into law in 2002 — a bill that passed before Obama was in the U.S. Senate, but one that Obama said he would have supported. The state of Illinois already had a law to protect aborted fetuses born alive and considered able to survive
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OBAMA: "We can cut the average family's premium by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: If that sounds like a straight-ahead promise to lower health insurance premiums, it isn't. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to pr oven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.--end copy--

There is a whole lot more, pls check it out..
Glad U asked!! (One last thing, then I will get off my soapbox (grin) I sure do hope THEY do an investigation on O's INTERNET contributions, 2 million suspiciously. Whew, BB

Excellent. Some real issues to discuss.

Going to have to research the details on the health plans. They're important but I wonder if now they'll be overshadowed by the economic situation and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Good information though.

The ads I have seen here have not been what I would call negative unless you count 'time for a change' as negative. But here in Kansas they might have to be careful what kind of ads they run. It's pretty conservative here.

As far as any bill that someone supposedly voted against.... I hardly even bother anymore. There is so much pork barrel BS and riders and such. And they may vote down a bill because of that. It's criminal what they do to pass a bill. It was criminal what they did with the bailout bill to get it to pass.. and both McCain and Obama voted for it. It shouldn't be allowed to have unrelated items on a bill and the president should have a line item veto authority, that then send the bill back to congress to be revoted.

The contributions in question are difficult to monitor because they're small. However the Obama camp claims they have put in place additional checks to try to make sure these contributions are legitimate. Personally I believe them, but I have no proof that it's the case.

First off taxing health care premiums is going to rise the cost the employer will pay for employee ins. Employers will drop policies. Second you can not buy a policy for $5000, no way!!McCain said $5800, maybe 20yrs ago you could. So you will have more people uninsured, costs will continue to rise.. As far as Obama spending, maybe if people trusted the reps a little better McCain would have more. Look you can say what you want the last eight yrs have been horrible and people are tired.You want to blame Clinton, but Clinton had a rep congress the last 6 yrs so rep had control for 12 straight years. The vote on abortion in Ill., there was a law already on the books and the new law had other restrictions tacked on it. We need online medical records. One thing it will do is stop abuse of pharmaceutical drugs and help keep them off the street.Economist are skeptical of both plans..We need to do something, we cant go on like the way its been. Neither one has a energy plan..Check out T. Boone Pickens for straight answers on oil..We cant drill out of it. We should have been drilling years ago. George Sr implemented the moratorium on drilling remember!!!Like I said its been screwed up for along time and people are tired..

hi tng, as I mentioned,

I went to your ref's site at http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html--- copy----
August 29, 2008
Q: Does Barack Obama have Kenyan citizenship?
The Rocky Mountain News has reported (below) that Barack Obama "Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship." Is this true?--

AND it IS outdated. ALOT has happened since Aug. 29th.
The October Surprise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

more info--copy--
NOTE: We only had 36 hours to produce this video, so it doesn't have the usual Illuminati polish. However, it reveals the single greatest threat to Obama's campaign.

In "October Surprise", Molotov Mitchell interviews the plaintiff in a stunning federal case against Barack Obama. The case is nothing short of electrifying, but the mainstream media is doing its best to keep Americans in the dark. Let's get the word out! Pass this video on to everyone you know.

If Obama's innocent, then why isn't he cooperating with the court?--end--
Peace, BB

Fact from Warped Facts on the Debate.

MCCAIN: "Sen. Obama, as a member of the Illinois state Senate, voted in the Judiciary Committee against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born in a failed abortion. He voted against that."

OBAMA: "If it sounds incredible that I would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true."

THE FACTS: As a state senator, Obama opposed three legislative efforts, in 2001, 2002 and 2003, to give legal protections to any aborted fetus that showed signs of life. The 2003 measure was virtually identical to a bill President Bush signed into law in 2002 — a bill that passed before Obama was in the U.S. Senate, but one that Obama said he would have supported. The state of Illinois already had a law to protect aborted fetuses born alive and considered able to survive. Among those opposed to the state effort was the Illinois State Medical Society, which argued that the bill would interfere with the doctor-patient relationship and expand civil liability for doctors. Critics said the proposed legislation would have undermined the landmark Supreme Court case on abortion, Roe v. Wade, in ways the federal law would not.

I never voted for Bush (I'm an Independent) and HATE what he has gotten away with. Yes, ur right, they never should've gotten away with being able to get that bailout passed so quick, with so much.

BTW I was going to vote for Hillary, but when they got this other D in, I studied things a whole lot more, and changed to McCain! Cheers, BB

opps, double post. deleted

Thx winx, cant type very good and made some mistakes

All I did was copy and paste something that I had bookmarked.

My computer crashed. Just put new hard drive in it..Lost everything

See, that's the thing. He has released his birth certificate. And it has been examined. But evidently that's not enough for them or you. You're looking at a video produced by an extremist with a lawyer who really is nutty. Have you seen the videos this guy produces?

The facts have already been provided. This is propoganda based on innuendo and flat out lies. Yes, there is a court case. Anybody can file a court case.

Believe what you will. This will never be an issue because it's not.

McCain supporters, or at least most of them are crazy, check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI5YVFAdtRo

My computer died a couple of months ago. I bought a new one a few weeks ago.

Even worse...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us

Thanks for posting the whole thing, my post was getting kind of long so I snipped it.
Hillary, Bush, McCain, almost all voted for this, Obama did not. I can't get behind him at all when he supports partial birth abortions, and late term
abortions even. AND when he was a senator, his wife wrote a letter to raise money at a $150.00 a dinner plate, to raise money to STOP - fight bills that would do away with late term abortions. One of the most horrific ways to kill a baby. Google it..... McCain suggested that Obama had stepped to the political fringe by failing to take a position on a late-term abortion ban when he served in the Illinois Senate and for opposing a measure that would provide medical attention to a child born of a failed abortion.--end--two different kinds if inhumane ways to snuff a life - that has grown FOR MANY MONTHS or full term!!. If he had just said it's a woman's right to choice - weeks, not months - then there would not be sure an uproar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRswgN-Wf6g

"Barack Obama dodged the question on where life begins at the Faith Forum with Rick Warren. - O answers "question of when life begins, is above my pay grade" --FLIP!! BB

I tried to look up a "Obama mob" because thats what I typed in when I went to youtube, but you cant find any. Because Obama voters know better, they are matured and know that the best will prevail. and if not, then I guess we are just screwe.

I replaced the HD and formatted it and it works..Just lost a lot of files..Surprised myself

That is too scary. It's truly sad that there are people like that walking around.

Hey, you're in my area. Are you seeing more McCain signs or Obama signs.

I'm seeing more Obama signs in the city.

I am soooo hoping to see him talk at the Arch on Saturday!!

I'm reading it differently than you are, I think. I don't see it as him allowing late term abortions. It was already the law in IL to protect them. I live across the river from IL so I've been watching him as Senator for awhile.