Topic: Racist? or just icing your opponent?
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Fri 10/10/08 10:53 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Fri 10/10/08 10:55 AM




I personaly think it was the same kind of rudeness that was displayed by McCain with his 'that one' statement...

However I find it strange that the media ignores things like this when done by a democrat yet spends hours, days and sometimes weeks jawing bout any such thing from a Republican.

My only point.

Huge gap in standards applied only to one side.

Bias!


Your right! I agree! JMO


drinker drinker drinker Me too!

It probably has something to do with CFR and who has The FED/CFR's best interests in mind. CFR does seem to back Obama, and they OWN practically every media branch.

(Recommended reading "Tragedy and Hope - by Carroll Quigley, one of the founders of CFR.)


ya gotta type real slow for me, cause I dont follow
- what is the CFR? what does it stand for?


Sorry, flowerforyou I've been getting lazy lately...

CFR stands for Councel on Foreign Relations. They were put in place by the Federal Reserve (I think) back in 1917. Officials are not elected by us, or congress from what i understand. It's founders gathered 12 key reporters (one for every media branch) and hired them. This is what controls our mainstream media even today. This is also why, even at times with no war, we dump billions and billions of dollars into third world countries that do us no good, regardess of what "we the people" say, or want.

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Fri 10/10/08 11:11 AM
thanks drivinmenutz (love the sound of your screen name)
-- will look them up but thank you flowerforyou

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Fri 10/10/08 11:23 AM
Edited by heartSoul on Fri 10/10/08 11:24 AM
Who is African American?

Since 1977, the United States officially categorized black people (revised to black or African American in 1997) are classified as A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.[5] Other Federal offices, such as the United States Census Bureau and the adheres to the OMB standards on race in its data collection and tabulations efforts.[75] The U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation also categorizes black or African-American people as "A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa" through racial categories used in the UCR Program adopted from the Statistical Policy Handbook (1978) and published by the Office of Federal Statistical Policy and Standards, U.S. Department of Commerce derived from the 1977 OMB classification.[76]

Due in part to a centuries-old history within the United States, historical experiences pre- and post-slavery, and migrations throughout North America, the vast majority of contemporary African Americans possess varying degrees of admixture with European and Native American ancestry.[77][78]

Some courts have called a person black if the person had any known African ancestry. It became known as the one-drop rule, meaning that a single drop of "black blood" makes a person "black". Some courts have called it the traceable amount rule, and anthropologists used to call it the hypodescent rule, meaning that racially mixed persons were assigned the status of the subordinate group. Prior to the one-drop rule, different states had different laws regarding color; in Virginia, for example, a person was legally black if he or she had at least one-sixteenth black ancestry. The one-drop rule was implemented by states in the southern United States during the early to mid-1880s[citation needed]. For African Americans, the one-drop system of pigmentocracy was a significant factor in ethnic solidarity. African Americans generally shared a common lot in society and, therefore, common cause — regardless of their multiracial admixture or social and economic stratification.

In the 1980s, parents of mixed-race children began to organize and lobby for the addition of a more inclusive term of racial designation that would reflect the heritage of their children. When the U.S. government proposed the addition of the category of "bi-racial" or "multiracial" in 1988, the response from the public was largely negative.[79] In recent decades, the multicultural climate of the United States has continued to expand. Although the terms mixed-race, biracial, and multiracial are increasingly used, it remains common for those who possess any visible traits of black heritage to identify or be identified solely as blacks or African Americans. As well, it is very common in the United States for people of mixed ancestry possessing any recent black heritage to self-identify demographically as African American while acknowledging both their African-American and other cultural heritages socially.

For example, 55% of European Americans classify Senator Barack Obama as biracial when they are told that he has a white mother, while 66% of African Americans consider him black.[80] Obama describes himself as black[81] and African American, using both terms interchangeably,[82] and is generally considered to be African American.[83]

Relationships between Native Americans and African slaves first occurred in 1502, and have continued throughout the centuries.[84] Tracing the genealogy of African Americans and Native Americans is a difficult process, because most African slaves were not permitted to read or write and many Native Americans did not speak English.[85] Another difficulty is that elder family members sometimes withhold pertinent genealogical information.[85] However, knowing the family's geographic origins is a key factor in helping reveal Native American ancestry from specific tribes.[85] Due to continued intermarriage between African-Americans and Native Americans, some people who are considered African American can claim Native heritage, although since the 1980s many Native groups refuse to recognize those claims.[86]

Read more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American

I don't like the term African American.
Some say it's better than Black or Negro.
There may be some truth to that.

I come from a background of Native American, Irish, Scottish, and African. But America sees me as a Black or African American woman.

Don't know anyone that doesn't have a colorful heritage these days. And I see nothing wrong with that.

When people ask me what I am, I answer...
a human being.

Enough with the labels alreadytongue2

franshade's photo
Fri 10/10/08 11:38 AM
only label I want to be known as is a good person - (notice even avoided using gender)

:banana:

Muddysneakers77's photo
Fri 10/10/08 11:42 AM
Playing the race card is just and adult form of a temper tantrum

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 10/10/08 11:43 AM

thanks drivinmenutz (love the sound of your screen name)
-- will look them up but thank you flowerforyou



www.cfr.org is their website.

franshade's photo
Fri 10/10/08 11:44 AM


thanks drivinmenutz (love the sound of your screen name)
-- will look them up but thank you flowerforyou



www.cfr.org is their website.


thanks checking it out now flowerforyou

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Fri 10/10/08 12:01 PM

only label I want to be known as is a good person - (notice even avoided using gender)

:banana:


exactly:thumbsup:

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Fri 10/10/08 01:58 PM



I personaly think it was the same kind of rudeness that was displayed by McCain with his 'that one' statement...

However I find it strange that the media ignores things like this when done by a democrat yet spends hours, days and sometimes weeks jawing bout any such thing from a Republican.

My only point.

Huge gap in standards applied only to one side.

Bias!


just kidding here Adventure - but Obama is both black and white. He is biracial (if there is truly such a thing) I think we are all multi racial... no blue bloods here (jmo)

why is he considered black? why is he not accepted as white?

racism to me is instilled and fueled by ignorance and fear of the unknown

*disclaimer-just my personal opinion *


I never even wondered... He claims black therefore that is what he identifies with.

I could care less what color his skin...
I am just tired of not being able to speak my mind about anything without being accused of racism...

Gettin a bit stupid and really starting to piss me off.

I see bias in the media. It would also appear to me that parts of the media WANT a race war... Would increase their ratings wouldn't it?


Who owns the media????

And why would you, AB, an intelligent free thinker, even consider the media representation to be remotely factual?

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Fri 10/10/08 04:03 PM
The McCain's show nothing but contempt for Obama. McCain also didn't shake Omama's hand when he stuck it out, so whatever... You see things through your prism and others see things differently.

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Fri 10/10/08 04:09 PM

The McCain's show nothing but contempt for Obama. McCain also didn't shake Omama's hand when he stuck it out, so whatever... You see things through your prism and others see things differently.


I noticed that also
wonder how he would explain that if it was mentioned to him?

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 10/10/08 04:11 PM


The McCain's show nothing but contempt for Obama. McCain also didn't shake Omama's hand when he stuck it out, so whatever... You see things through your prism and others see things differently.


I noticed that also
wonder how he would explain that if it was mentioned to him?


Would be funny wouldn't it? I'm sure he would look like a fool.

Nevertheless, the media does tend to take a biased stance....

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Fri 10/10/08 04:59 PM



The McCain's show nothing but contempt for Obama. McCain also didn't shake Omama's hand when he stuck it out, so whatever... You see things through your prism and others see things differently.


I noticed that also
wonder how he would explain that if it was mentioned to him?


Would be funny wouldn't it? I'm sure he would look like a fool.

Nevertheless, the media does tend to take a biased stance....


very true

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Fri 10/10/08 06:34 PM
the hipocrasy of political correctness in America has killed any opportunity for real dialouge...

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 10/10/08 10:02 PM

I think it has more to do with bad manners than race. But I do think that the Obama's are racest against white people.

Democrates as a group have bad manners. They claim tollerance but don't let people express opposing points of view. Then run their campaigns like like a race for student counsel. I had a McCain Palin sign in my front yard less than six hours before it was stolen and rplaced by a Dems sign.
laugh Obama is half white.laugh Sounds like your projecting your own "isms"onto him.laugh

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Fri 10/10/08 10:06 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Fri 10/10/08 10:18 PM



I personaly think it was the same kind of rudeness that was displayed by McCain with his 'that one' statement...

However I find it strange that the media ignores things like this when done by a democrat yet spends hours, days and sometimes weeks jawing bout any such thing from a Republican.

My only point.

Huge gap in standards applied only to one side.

Bias!


just kidding here Adventure - but Obama is both black and white. He is biracial (if there is truly such a thing) I think we are all multi racial... no blue bloods here (jmo)

why is he considered black? why is he not accepted as white?

racism to me is instilled and fueled by ignorance and fear of the unknown

*disclaimer-just my personal opinion *


I never even wondered... He claims black therefore that is what he identifies with.

I could care less what color his skin...
I am just tired of not being able to speak my mind about anything without being accused of racism...

Gettin a bit stupid and really starting to piss me off.

I see bias in the media. It would also appear to me that parts of the media WANT a race war... Would increase their ratings wouldn't it?
:smile: When someone says something rascist, then they've said something rascist.(Not you)but a lot of white republican people are saying rascist stuff.:smile: They just are, and its a fact, and they are getting their little feelings hurt when they get called on it.flowerforyou The great thing about it is that it looks like it may backfire on the republicans:banana: Go U.S.A.:banana:

Winx's photo
Fri 10/10/08 11:42 PM

I think it has more to do with bad manners than race. But I do think that the Obama's are racest against white people.

Democrates as a group have bad manners. They claim tollerance but don't let people express opposing points of view. Then run their campaigns like like a race for student counsel. I had a McCain Palin sign in my front yard less than six hours before it was stolen and rplaced by a Dems sign.


Wow. Dems as a group have bad manners.:angry: I am a Dem. and I have perfectly good manners.

You had a McCain sign stolen? I'm sure that there has been an Obama sign stolen somewhere.

I find it amusing when somebody calls a half white/half black person, raised by his white grandparents, a racist.

Winx's photo
Fri 10/10/08 11:45 PM



Why is it that Gov Palin can bring up a white terrorist and be accused of being a racist..

While B. Obamas wife can snub both McCain and his wife on national TV...

And no one says a word.

Check it out at the end of the second Pres debate. McCain introduces wife to Obama. Obama's wife gives both McCain and wife cold shoulder with her nose in the air... No one says a word on the media...

Bias... Or afraid to say anything for fear of left wing radicals.







Neither, she just didnt want to befriend them - personal choice - why must everything be a black/white thing???






kinda like not looking at obama during the debate


interesting a lot was said about that


Two debates. And add to that the little digs throughout.

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Fri 10/10/08 11:51 PM
This reminds me a lot of when girls started joining the wrestling team. We didnt have enough girls to make an all female team so they competed against the boys.

Poor high school boys didnt know what to do. If they beat the girl ..they were called a woman beater. If they lost they were a wimp.

Same deal no one wins.

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Sat 10/11/08 04:24 AM


Why is it that Gov Palin can bring up a white terrorist and be accused of being a racist..

While B. Obamas wife can snub both McCain and his wife on national TV...

And no one says a word.

Check it out at the end of the second Pres debate. McCain introduces wife to Obama. Obama's wife gives both McCain and wife cold shoulder with her nose in the air... No one says a word on the media...

Bias... Or afraid to say anything for fear of left wing radicals.




Neither, she just didnt want to befriend them - personal choice - why must everything be a black/white thing???




It's called civil discourse. Something she is so lacking in.

So I take it that you don't mind it if there are black racists? frustrated

So much for equality...right?