Topic: Why McCain is going to lose.
warmachine's photo
Sun 10/05/08 08:27 AM
by James Ostrowski at October 5, 2008 08:56 AM

Right now, the Republicans are on a path towards losing the White House to the least experienced and most liberal candidate anyone can remember.

Why? McCain can't disassociate himself from Bush and he is a total and complete ignoramus on all matters economic.

The perfect Republican nominee at this point would be Ron Paul of course.

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At this point there are a handful of Rep. candidates that would be doing alot better than McCain. Romney, Huckabee and Paul right off the top of my head.


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Sun 10/05/08 08:30 AM
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reydar's photo
Sun 10/05/08 08:50 AM
ahh but the Republicans chose him... thats what they get.

warmachine's photo
Sun 10/05/08 08:56 AM
This Conservative didn't.

waving

wouldee's photo
Sun 10/05/08 09:24 AM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 10/05/08 09:27 AM
still too close to call.

Not to be optimistic, I believe that cooler heads will prevail in November and elect mcCain after all.

Obama makes no mention of curbing spending. In fact, his whole philosophy can be summed up and filtered through the observation that everything he says about making the American dream come true will come at the expense of taxpayers and manipulation of the tax code to enhance revenue for the things he hopes to accomplish for improving life for our children, so it seems.

Not one word on curbing spending.

not one word about the average American worker that isn't defined except by his notion that cops, firemen, and teachers are the average worker, government employees all.

Somehow, he is fixated on bigger government.

For a Harvard law professor to not recognize that government spending is the monkey on our backs is alarmingly ignorant.

He wants to spend the money budgeted for the war on terror presently engaged in the Iraq theater on more government managed programs of his choice and turn the military towards Afghanistan and blow it up and leave. Even though he says schools are needed there. Yeah, right.

he can rest with a sigh of relief for the moment rejoicing in the bailout of democrat interventions into the free market and mortgage lending practices, but must brace for the potential risks of FDIC protections going bust.
With 40 billion in reserves to backstop not 2trillion in deposits, but now 5 trillion in deposits, he will have to be extremely careful with how oversight governs deposits into banks by the citizens of this country.

Something that obama shows no competence in.

He shows no competent grasp on sound economic principles.

Pragmatically, McCain at the least does warn that we must rein in government spending.

This election is less about the economy, per se, or the war on terror or the health and welfare and education of ua all, as much as it is about

the runaway train of government spending and the mismanagement of the public trust.

Obama affords no hope in this battle.

McCain might.

Throw away votes will only inure to Obama's win in default. Siphoning of votes towards independent candidates will more than likely weaken McCain's chances, not Obama's.

So the choice before us is this.

rein in government spending or expand government borrowing.

That is the predominant issue being obscured by the partisan tug of war, in a nutshell.



think

warmachine's photo
Sun 10/05/08 09:28 AM
I disagree, I think this election is about Freedom or Slavery. We have to all look at who is running, if they have globalist ties, corporate leanings or lobbyists running their campaigns on all levels they need to be shown the door.

wouldee's photo
Sun 10/05/08 09:54 AM
I disagree.

All in all, first things first.

Philosophically, future plans for America are tertiary and ancillary maneuverings of civil judgements regarding free trade in a global market.

Practically, the secondary issue is oversight of the free market for the benefit of American interests.

Pragmatically and first and foremost as the primary concern for this nation is managing the public trust and working to insure that our government is not part of the problem with free trade and sound economic prudence.

With the sstrain on capital that is represented best by an 11.5 trillion US Dollar National Debt, this country's federal government is the single most detriment to the market.

Too much taxpayer funded revenue is burdening the countru's ability to invest in the future by virtue of the massive drain of revenue just to cover the interest on the spiraling National Debt.

That debt is compounding and growing minute by minute out of control.

The Wall Street to Main St. bottleneck in the free market is completely contingent upon that strain of the public trust.

We must payoff this debt now, not later.

Nothing is being done about it at all, except to say that Washington is making it worse minute by minute.

Higher taxes and more government borrowing to exist at all is inevitable given our present course.

In five years, we are looking at a National Debt of over 25 trillion without one dime more of expanded government spending and borrowing.

The interest payment/year alone will be 1 trillion when the president elected in 2012 is inaugurated.


apart from that, civil war can be expected if the federal Reserve Bank is not called on to carpet for lending money that it doesn't have.

and those are the facts, as I see it, even though these facts have yet to manifest themselves.

1+1=2 but until the equation is finished, 2 is not the result, but we know that 2 is the answer.

Same thng with war or calling in the kiting of the Federal Reserve Bank.

Proving they are kiting Dollars is easy.

Declaring the debt illegal is then easy.

Getting the Federal Reserve Bank to give account for it's imaginary balance sheet will topple it and perhaps the whole global market, but that is a temporary issue made a non-issue by international consensus when a better standard for international trade backs all currencies, whether or not there is a single world currency.

But private bankers are not the solution and their currencies are not legitimate measures of true currency, only subjective ones subject to their own values, not the true and real and tangible value of their instruments being presently kited and hidden from objective and transparent scrutiny.

think

wouldee's photo
Sun 10/05/08 10:02 AM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 10/05/08 10:03 AM
thought for the day.

If all deposits in all banks were cashed out, the member banks of the Federal Resrve bank cannot cover the withdrawals. period.

That having been accomplished, what would back the currency? the gold held as collateral?

nope.

The is woefully insufficient gold reserves doing the backing.

If there is no backing and the Fed has no cash, then how can they lend? They can't.

Let them have the gold held in collateral.

Debt paid.

end of story.

me2g's photo
Sun 10/05/08 10:05 AM
you know.. when you feel the need to throw that many 2 dollar words around.. it just seems that your main objective is to come off smarter and confuse. To be honest.. I think they should let the banks fall face first in their own crap.. We as citizens have been and are getting sick of shoveling it for them.

wouldee's photo
Sun 10/05/08 10:13 AM
I agree.

That's exactly what I am saying.

You are smarter than you realize.

drinker

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 10/05/08 02:17 PM

ahh but the Republicans chose him... thats what they get.


Both candidates were chosen by the same people. There is a comittee with both democratic and republican leadership. Any candidate chosen has to agree on most major issues to keep the country on the same track. This is no rumor, this is a fact. If you want, look at the policies from both websites on McCain and Obama. Write them all down. They agree on just about every major issue. They just use slightly different words. It's creepy.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 10/05/08 02:21 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Sun 10/05/08 02:22 PM

you know.. when you feel the need to throw that many 2 dollar words around.. it just seems that your main objective is to come off smarter and confuse. To be honest.. I think they should let the banks fall face first in their own crap.. We as citizens have been and are getting sick of shoveling it for them.


That's what they SHOULD do. Let them liquidize their assets. They take a hit, many would just plain fail. But eventually it would correct itself. drinker drinker drinker

This plan that Obama and McCain supported is going to REALLY screw us in the end.