Topic: Like McCain- The Flip Floppers
warmachine's photo
Sat 10/04/08 01:00 AM
McCain is the biggest rhetoric spewer when it comes to Pork Barrel spending. This bailout had more pork in it than Boss Hawg.

The following representatives voted "Nay" during Monday's bailout vote and switched their votes to "Yea" for the vote on Friday.


Republicans:

Alexander
Barrett
Biggert
Boustany
Buchanan
Coble
Conaway
Dent
Fallin
Frelinghuysen
Gerlach
Hoesktra
Knollenberg
Kuhl
Myrick
Ramstad
Ros-Lehtinen
Schmidt
Shadegg
Shuster
Sullivan
Terry
Thornberry
Tiberi
Wamp
Weller (did not vote the first time)

Democrats:

Abercrombie
Baca
Berkley
Braley
Carson
Cleaver
Cuellar
Cummings
Edwards (MD)
Giffords
Green, Al
Hirono
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee
Kilpatrick
Lee
Lewis (GA)
Mitchell
Ortiz
Pascrell
Pastor
Rush
Schiff
Scott (GA)
Solis
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Tierney
Watson
Welch (VT)
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth


Representative Jim McDermott (D-WA) was the lone representative to switch his vote from "Yea" to "Nay."

arkdanimal's photo
Sat 10/04/08 01:03 AM

McCain is the biggest rhetoric spewer when it comes to Pork Barrel spending. This bailout had more pork in it than Boss Hawg.

The following representatives voted "Nay" during Monday's bailout vote and switched their votes to "Yea" for the vote on Friday.


Republicans:

Alexander
Barrett
Biggert
Boustany
Buchanan
Coble
Conaway
Dent
Fallin
Frelinghuysen
Gerlach
Hoesktra
Knollenberg
Kuhl
Myrick
Ramstad
Ros-Lehtinen
Schmidt
Shadegg
Shuster
Sullivan
Terry
Thornberry
Tiberi
Wamp
Weller (did not vote the first time)

Democrats:

Abercrombie
Baca
Berkley
Braley
Carson
Cleaver
Cuellar
Cummings
Edwards (MD)
Giffords
Green, Al
Hirono
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee
Kilpatrick
Lee
Lewis (GA)
Mitchell
Ortiz
Pascrell
Pastor
Rush
Schiff
Scott (GA)
Solis
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Tierney
Watson
Welch (VT)
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth


Representative Jim McDermott (D-WA) was the lone representative to switch his vote from "Yea" to "Nay."
just goes to show ya what money can buy!

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Sat 10/04/08 01:59 AM
it is sad that they had to add "pork" to get the bill passed.

even more so that McCain said nothing about it. I am not a McCain supporter but i am always looking out for a little sincerity on the part of the guy trying to lead the free friggin world!

Here is a guy who has been raving about the pork in DC for a year now. then the biggest bill to come to congress in decades comes to a vote. He supposedly stops his campaign to talk house republicans into voting yes... the defeat the bill. a few days later democrats agree to load the bill with 140 BILLION in give aways on top of the 700 billion given to... matter of fact does any one even know who is getting this 700 billion dollars???

So now the bill is loaded with pork, the one thing McCain hates the most (that and taxes), and now the House passes it???

All his talk about going to DC to make sure the bill gets passed and he couldnt get his fellow republicans, the party he now leads, to vote on a bill that is supposed to save america , he couldnt get them to vote without pork???

Hell he didnt even ask them to vote no for the second time... **** if they said no before why not again? He couldnt, or wouldnt even dare to ask???

The man survived the hanoy hilton but couldnt get some silly republicans with inflated egos to back him up so he could win the presidency

Conservatives i hope you are watching this. this is your guy. this is the Maverick.





d3vi1d06's photo
Sat 10/04/08 02:57 AM
Edited by d3vi1d06 on Sat 10/04/08 03:06 AM
part 4 of the obama chronicles... courtesy of our friends at fox news. fair and balanced. this is the no spin zone.

for future reference bill oreilly hasnt leaned left or right. i see him as unbiased.

Person No. 1: Bettylu Saltzman, a wealthy, committed left-wing philanthropist who can make or break a Chicago politician.

Person No. 2: Valerie Jarrett, currently a senior adviser to Barack Obama. She has been a close associate for 17 years.

Person No. 3: Penny Pritzker, whose grandfather founded the Hyatt Hotel chain. Another committed leftist. She is a top fund-raiser.

Joining us now from Chicago is a woman who knows all about Barack Obama's Chicago gang, Sugar Rautbord, who actually introduced the Senator to George Soros.

Wow. Why did you do that?

SUGAR RAUTBORD, OBAMA SUPPORTER: Well, because he was a Democrat, and he is rich, so that kind of makes sense. And when he was running, Barack, for the U.S. Senate, Paula and Jim Crown from the very important billionaire Chicago Crown family that owns Aspen, owns a lot of companies, very generous, very philanthropic, we were all working with Barack to run for the Senate, and I was going to host a dinner for George Soros, on a book tour here. And we persuaded him — and actually, George hosted...

O'REILLY: So you got them together. Soros, subsequently, became a big Barack Obama fan. But Soros is a far, far-left guy. And many people, I think, are very, very suspicious of George Soros for his past activities and his kind of crazy view on what the country should be. So if Barack Obama gets elected, we can blame you, Sugar, for putting the two together.

RAUTBORD: OK.

O'REILLY: All right. Let's go to Bettylu Saltzman. Bettylu Saltzman, big Chicago doyenne, correct?

RAUTBORD: Big Chicago doyenne. The daughter of Philip Klutznik, who was the secretary of Commerce, who was a major developer. And Bettylu, as we used to call them in my own Sarah Lawrence days, liberal — limousine liberals. Now we call them Lakeshore — after Lakeshore Drive — liberals.

O'REILLY: OK. She's loaded. And now, Bettylu Saltzman, I understand, was the one who said to Barack Obama, "You better — you better oppose the Iraq war. You better come out and say you're against it," and this was way back in 2002. Is that correct?

RAUTBORD: In October 2002, Betty was — Bettylu was the organizer for the anti-Iraq war that took place at Daley Federal Plaza, at which Obama made an important speech.

O'REILLY: Yes, and she said to him — he didn't want to — he was going, "I don't know whether I should do this." She said, "You'd better do it." And that's what I understand happened there.

RAUTBORD: That's true. And by a lot of the things — and I don't think a lot of people know this — Obama does a lot by consensus. He listens very closely to this circle of people that you mentioned.

O'REILLY: Well, he listened to Bettylu. Bettylu told him to get out there and be against the Iraq war, and that's what happened. Not to say that the senator wasn't against it, but Bettylu forced him to come out of the closet.

Valerie Jarrett, I understand she's a very tough lady and she travels with Senator Obama. What else about her?

RAUTBORD: She's scrappy. She's very scrappy. She is a lawyer. She actually hired Michelle Obama when she was working in Mayor Daley's office. She was actually born in Iran, where her father, an American, was doing medical work. And she remembers the days when her father was a doctor at Rush and remembered stories of him having to come in the back door and decide he was coming in the front door because he was African-American. And she is one scrappy person who they mentioned constantly could be his chief of staff.

O'REILLY: Yes, she could be the White House chief of staff. Is she a very liberal woman? A pragmatic woman? What?

RAUTBORD: Well, she's a tough woman, and the — it's hard to tell. You know, when you're saying "left," "liberal," because all of these people that are surrounding Obama, a lot of them have the same background: Harvard lawyers.

O'REILLY: Yes, but there's a degree. Look, George Soros is as far left as it gets. Bettylu Saltzman we know is very far left. But I'm not sure about Valerie Jarrett. I don't know where she is on the political spectrum.

O'REILLY: Mrs. Rautbord, very interesting. Thank you for taking the time.

warmachine's photo
Sat 10/04/08 08:28 AM
Fine, but what did that have to do with Congress flip flopping their votes to pass a massive FedZilla kinda bill, that McCain voted for in the Senate, against his only real fiscal issue.


t22learner's photo
Sat 10/04/08 09:27 AM

for future reference bill oreilly hasnt leaned left or right. i see him as unbiased.

I think an optometrist visit is in order...