Topic: Obama wants people arrested...
Winx's photo
Sun 09/28/08 09:53 PM

Leave good ol' Missouri and the politics start getting interesting. shocked rofl


Yeah, it's all your fault, isn't it?:angry:

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 09/28/08 11:19 PM


War, this one is beyond ridiculous.


Go watch the news report. Go read the PDF of the threatening legal papers.

Why is it when I post something against one side, it's all good, but when I post against the other I'm disregarded? Hypocritical, IMO.

Either I tell the truth, or I'm a fibber. You can't have it both ways, especially based on party politics.


Since I'm being told this is ridiculous, that I'm insinuating something...prove it,prove me wrong, otherwise I'm telling just that much more truth about the McBama campaign.
By the way, this story started for me, from Reason Magazine, The Libertarian site, who would get sued out of their pants, if they were presenting such a horrible "lie".


People are blinded by party politics. Obama can do no wrong in his follower's eyes. His followers' self fulfilling prophecies are turning themselves into some sort of cult. When you ask for credible information to back up Obama, they only respond with anger, and no logic.

Here it is, Obama is corrupt, just like McCain. Face it guys, he is no saint. He has no plans to help anyone out. There is the truth. His campaign slogan of "change" is a lie. His only redeeming quality is his public speaking ability. That is it. He is leading down the same path the Bush has been leading us down folks...

Think with your brain first, then your heart. Exercise critical thinking. Use your same skeptical tactics you apply to the republican party and McCain, and apply it to Obama and the democratic party. You will all see the truth.

adj4u's photo
Sun 09/28/08 11:20 PM
i kinda wish they had a better search engine here so ya could pull up comments from the primary era

i bet it would be interesting

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 09/28/08 11:25 PM

i kinda wish they had a better search engine here so ya could pull up comments from the primary era

i bet it would be interesting


:wink:

Winx's photo
Sun 09/28/08 11:25 PM
Edited by Winx on Sun 09/28/08 11:31 PM



War, this one is beyond ridiculous.


Go watch the news report. Go read the PDF of the threatening legal papers.

Why is it when I post something against one side, it's all good, but when I post against the other I'm disregarded? Hypocritical, IMO.

Either I tell the truth, or I'm a fibber. You can't have it both ways, especially based on party politics.


Since I'm being told this is ridiculous, that I'm insinuating something...prove it,prove me wrong, otherwise I'm telling just that much more truth about the McBama campaign.
By the way, this story started for me, from Reason Magazine, The Libertarian site, who would get sued out of their pants, if they were presenting such a horrible "lie".


People are blinded by party politics. Obama can do no wrong in his follower's eyes. His followers' self fulfilling prophecies are turning themselves into some sort of cult. When you ask for credible information to back up Obama, they only respond with anger, and no logic.

Here it is, Obama is corrupt, just like McCain. Face it guys, he is no saint. He has no plans to help anyone out. There is the truth. His campaign slogan of "change" is a lie. His only redeeming quality is his public speaking ability. That is it. He is leading down the same path the Bush has been leading us down folks...

Think with your brain first, then your heart. Exercise critical thinking. Use your same skeptical tactics you apply to the republican party and McCain, and apply it to Obama and the democratic party. You will all see the truth.


From the article I posted from my city where these attorneys are located, where do you see that Obama is corrupt?


Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 09/28/08 11:39 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Sun 09/28/08 11:49 PM




War, this one is beyond ridiculous.


Go watch the news report. Go read the PDF of the threatening legal papers.

Why is it when I post something against one side, it's all good, but when I post against the other I'm disregarded? Hypocritical, IMO.

Either I tell the truth, or I'm a fibber. You can't have it both ways, especially based on party politics.


Since I'm being told this is ridiculous, that I'm insinuating something...prove it,prove me wrong, otherwise I'm telling just that much more truth about the McBama campaign.
By the way, this story started for me, from Reason Magazine, The Libertarian site, who would get sued out of their pants, if they were presenting such a horrible "lie".


People are blinded by party politics. Obama can do no wrong in his follower's eyes. His followers' self fulfilling prophecies are turning themselves into some sort of cult. When you ask for credible information to back up Obama, they only respond with anger, and no logic.

Here it is, Obama is corrupt, just like McCain. Face it guys, he is no saint. He has no plans to help anyone out. There is the truth. His campaign slogan of "change" is a lie. His only redeeming quality is his public speaking ability. That is it. He is leading down the same path the Bush has been leading us down folks...

Think with your brain first, then your heart. Exercise critical thinking. Use your same skeptical tactics you apply to the republican party and McCain, and apply it to Obama and the democratic party. You will all see the truth.


From the article I posted from my city where these attorneys are located, where do you see that Obama is corrupt?




For starters his whole campaign slogan is a lie. He beliefs are almost the same as McCains when it comes to policies and philosophies, although Obama is a bit more aggressive. Like McCain, he has taken money from corporations. He was chosen by the same comittee as McCain because his ideas aren't much different from what is already going on.

If he isn't corrupt why is he trying to "solve" our "problems" with more bureaucracy? Why isn't he trying to solve the problems from their government sources? Why is he planning to increase government spending while somehow lowering taxes? Where do you think that will ultimately bring us? I may be stretching, but his ideas seem to be pushing for socialization. This is dangerous because it means more government control. Even if he was an honorable person, he would be giving power to those that one day may not be.

I ask you, if Obama is so great, please explain where he will "change" our course. Why is it every time i ask anyone about him they cannot give logical responsible reasons to support him. Yet they all chant his name like he will be our savior...

warmachine's photo
Mon 09/29/08 12:01 AM
Change- Change of the pace in which the Republic dies.

The duopoly succeeds in doing one thing: Divide and Conquer.

Those at the top of the two party system don't give a single sh!t about anybody, but their own interests. They push for their Global system and no one seems to see that they are working towards the same ends.

McBama will ruin this nation, it's already on it's last leg.

arkdanimal's photo
Mon 09/29/08 12:28 AM
Of course Obama wants people arrested, some people need to be arrested. But not very many. The problem is that there is not enough money to take care and council and educate people who have problems to the extent they no longer want to do smaller crimes. And of course don't forget the money thing. Prisons are very profitable at the taxpayers expense!

warmachine's photo
Mon 09/29/08 12:45 AM

Of course Obama wants people arrested, some people need to be arrested. But not very many. The problem is that there is not enough money to take care and council and educate people who have problems to the extent they no longer want to do smaller crimes. And of course don't forget the money thing. Prisons are very profitable at the taxpayers expense!


Oh, that last line... Not to mention the Private prisons that treat the people in them like slave labor.

When one group of people treat another group like property to be worked and used... isn't that slavery?

t22learner's photo
Mon 09/29/08 03:32 AM

All I've seen to dispute this is partisan lines.

War, how many people actually took the time to read the Obama campaign letter in question? You posted it. I read it.

It provides third party fact-check evidence that the (NRA) McCain ads in question are "false and misleading." It asks the station not to run the ads, but does not threaten any action if the station chooses to run them.

Also, if you read just a little bit on this Missouri Governor, you'll see the source of this "controversy." He's a shameless partisan. I expect the worst is yet to come in the "Show Me" state.

Lynann's photo
Mon 09/29/08 07:36 AM
You know when I was a kid there was a nifty little policy of giving those with opposing views equal time on television.

So, if the station owner gave an editorial in favor of drinking milk a viewer who believed milk drinking was wrong would be given equal time on air to state their position.

There weren't many stations on air then and so balancing air time was needed in order to deliver a balanced voice.

Now we all know we aren't going back to those days but it would be great to see a little more balance.


Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 09/29/08 07:45 AM

You know when I was a kid there was a nifty little policy of giving those with opposing views equal time on television.

So, if the station owner gave an editorial in favor of drinking milk a viewer who believed milk drinking was wrong would be given equal time on air to state their position.

There weren't many stations on air then and so balancing air time was needed in order to deliver a balanced voice.

Now we all know we aren't going back to those days but it would be great to see a little more balance.




flowerforyou

franshade's photo
Mon 09/29/08 07:49 AM
I almost doubted my reading skills, where does it state that Obama wants people arrested? I read that he is arresting (stopping the misinformation used in ads).

But what do I know?

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 09/29/08 08:26 AM
Oh come on people... Freedom of speach...

I would love to see ALL negative ads stopped... However I have seen this reported on all the news channels. ALL OF THEM...

Some gloss it over... Some slam it... Some simply report it...

But all of them have reported it.

Yall are argueing over nothing.

This is however a STANDARD tactic in Chicago politics.

I wonder if Obama himself is actually aware of it.

The news reports do not say Obama did this... They say Obamas campaign is doing it.

He has a massive campaign and can hardly be expected to know ever single thing that his supporters are doing.

no photo
Mon 09/29/08 08:29 AM
He has a massive campaign and can hardly be expected to know ever single thing that his supporters are doing.

actually he can and will be held responsible for his supporters actions and words in the mind of the voters

franshade's photo
Mon 09/29/08 08:30 AM

He has a massive campaign and can hardly be expected to know ever single thing that his supporters are doing.

actually he can and will be held responsible for his supporters actions and words in the mind of the voters

after all do they not all say I am such and such and I endorse this message. giving the impression that they in fact do know what is being advertised.

warmachine's photo
Mon 09/29/08 10:20 AM
Well, until I find evidence that suggests otherwise, I think this is B.S.
Both sides are running these kinds of campaigns, both sides have their Ministry of Truth (and I'm the orwellian?)

The fact is, Obama has took some stances against the 2nd amendment, like the DC handgun ban, which would have essentially disarmed the law abiding.

If Obama's campaign didn't want this to blow up in his face, then they shouldn't have went after the free speech of the radio,Televison, print or the poor schmuck that would have gotten caught repeating any of it in front of Boyer.

They should have sent their little letter to the NRA.


"after all do they not all say I am such and such and I endorse this message. giving the impression that they in fact do know what is being advertised. "

Didn't Mr.Obama just get up in front of the T.V. and say: "Some of these ads haven't lived up to my standards of truth" or something to that effect.

SO which is it? Does he approve of the message or not...



franshade's photo
Mon 09/29/08 10:37 AM

Didn't Mr.Obama just get up in front of the T.V. and say: "Some of these ads haven't lived up to my standards of truth" or something to that effect.

SO which is it? Does he approve of the message or not...


I think it's both, if you agree with him he approves if you dont agree he's against. Typical acceptance of responsibility passed over yet again.

no photo
Mon 09/29/08 10:40 AM
if it supports his message it is "truth"

if it doesn't it is an "unapproved truth"


but it's not just Obama. this is just a tactic ongoing. I'm sure McCain is employing the same tactics


warmachine's photo
Mon 09/29/08 10:47 AM

if it supports his message it is "truth"

if it doesn't it is an "unapproved truth"


but it's not just Obama. this is just a tactic ongoing. I'm sure McCain is employing the same tactics




Above all, this is my point. They are the same in tactics and the same on the critical issues of our day.