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Topic: Irrational reason to Vote for Mc Cain
Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sat 09/27/08 07:18 AM
Well then maybe the OP should not have titled their thread in the fashion it was titled...that 'if" THEY wanted debate? Yu think?

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Sat 09/27/08 07:33 AM
What about irrational reasons to vote for Obama? He preaches change, but do people even look at his policies? Because they want to see the first African American president. He is not even technically african american. "That means that Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. He is 43.75% Arabic, and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side." Even though his father lived in Kenya, his nationality according to Kenyan government was Arabic. (not that race should play a part in the election anyway) Because he is Charismatic. Speaking will only get you so far. Can he do more than just talk? IDK, he hasn't been around long enough to demonstrate this.

becca777 Joined Tue 08/05/08 Posts: 2161	Sat 09/27/08 08:21 AM
so far, I'm kinda leaning towards McCain, but that could change. I'm not sure I trust him but Obama's cult of personality thing is starting to scare me Now that the first debate has been televised, do you still feel this way?

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 09/27/08 08:27 AM Edited by quiet_2008 on Sat 09/27/08 08:27 AM
I'm conflicted I agreed with Obama about abandoning Afghanistan and he had some reasonable approaches but in the overall I'm kinda scared of Iran and Russia and have an eerie feeling that we are in 1936 and in the next few years something really bad is gonna happen and I still weigh their respective years of statesman experience against each other and still lean towards McCain Iran and the economy are kinda irrelevant to me since both of those will be pretty much winding down and taken care of before either one can take office

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sat 09/27/08 08:30 AM
I'm conflicted I agreed with Obama about abandoning Afghanistan and he had some reasonable approaches but in the overall I'm kinda scared of Iran and Russia and have an eerie feeling that we are in 1936 and in the next few years something really bad is gonna happen and I still weigh their respective years of statesman experience against each other and still lean towards McCain Iran and the economy are kinda irrelevant to me since both of those will be pretty much winding down and taken care of before either one can take office The economy is winding down..I beleive the bottom is far from being reached yet..Hang on its not over yet..

becca777 Joined Tue 08/05/08 Posts: 2161	Sat 09/27/08 08:33 AM
I'm conflicted I agreed with Obama about abandoning Afghanistan and he had some reasonable approaches but in the overall I'm kinda scared of Iran and Russia and have an eerie feeling that we are in 1936 and in the next few years something really bad is gonna happen and I still weigh their respective years of statesman experience against each other and still lean towards McCain Iran and the economy are kinda irrelevant to me since both of those will be pretty much winding down and taken care of before either one can take office what did you think about what Obama said about pulling out of Iraq and finishing what was started with Bin Laden and Afganistan?

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 09/27/08 08:33 AM
yeah but whatever Obama/McCain would or wouldn't do it'll be handled by someone else before they are in office

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 09/27/08 08:36 AM Edited by quiet_2008 on Sat 09/27/08 08:38 AM
I'm conflicted I agreed with Obama about abandoning Afghanistan and he had some reasonable approaches but in the overall I'm kinda scared of Iran and Russia and have an eerie feeling that we are in 1936 and in the next few years something really bad is gonna happen and I still weigh their respective years of statesman experience against each other and still lean towards McCain Iran and the economy are kinda irrelevant to me since both of those will be pretty much winding down and taken care of before either one can take office what did you think about what Obama said about pulling out of Iraq and finishing what was started with Bin Laden and Afganistan? I think that Iraq really is winding down. and that is the next natural progression of it. Iraq is really basically over and we are in the draw down stage. AND as scared as I am of Iran, Afghanistan is a bordering country and if Iran and Israel go at it, will Afghanistan not back Iran? and whatever happens you KNOW Russia will back who ever we are against. And Russia has wanted Iran ever since we screwed em out of the oil that they were promised in the Potsdam Treaty to me there is a whole lot more at stake than just letting the neocons/liberals get ahead

becca777 Joined Tue 08/05/08 Posts: 2161	Sat 09/27/08 08:41 AM
Absolutely, but I'm afraid if McCain gets into office, it'll be a never ending war with Iraq and then where will we be. We're wasting resources on a war that shouldn't have even been started. Now with the issues of Iran and Russia coming to head I'm afraid of what will happen.

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Sat 09/27/08 08:50 AM
What about irrational reasons to vote for Obama? He preaches change, but do people even look at his policies? Because they want to see the first African American president. He is not even technically african american. "That means that Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. He is 43.75% Arabic, and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side." Even though his father lived in Kenya, his nationality according to Kenyan government was Arabic. (not that race should play a part in the election anyway) Because he is Charismatic. Speaking will only get you so far. Can he do more than just talk? IDK, he hasn't been around long enough to demonstrate this. Why do you kep pointing out he is Arabic?Though I agree he is not Black,why do you emphasize that all the time.Who cares?

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sat 09/27/08 08:57 AM
I'm conflicted I agreed with Obama about abandoning Afghanistan and he had some reasonable approaches but in the overall I'm kinda scared of Iran and Russia and have an eerie feeling that we are in 1936 and in the next few years something really bad is gonna happen and I still weigh their respective years of statesman experience against each other and still lean towards McCain Iran and the economy are kinda irrelevant to me since both of those will be pretty much winding down and taken care of before either one can take office what did you think about what Obama said about pulling out of Iraq and finishing what was started with Bin Laden and Afganistan? I think that Iraq really is winding down. and that is the next natural progression of it. Iraq is really basically over and we are in the draw down stage. AND as scared as I am of Iran, Afghanistan is a bordering country and if Iran and Israel go at it, will Afghanistan not back Iran? and whatever happens you KNOW Russia will back who ever we are against. And Russia has wanted Iran ever since we screwed em out of the oil that they were promised in the Potsdam Treaty to me there is a whole lot more at stake than just letting the neocons/liberals get ahead You cant pull out of Iraq..Hense McCains 100 yr comment. If you pull out how long do you think it will be before Iran shows its scary face more than it is now...

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 09/27/08 08:58 AM Edited by quiet_2008 on Sat 09/27/08 09:07 AM
Absolutely, but I'm afraid if McCain gets into office, it'll be a never ending war with Iraq and then where will we be. We're wasting resources on a war that shouldn't have even been started. Now with the issues of Iran and Russia coming to head I'm afraid of what will happen. Iraq really is winding down. whoever gets elected will be in charge of how we leave Iraq, so I kinda discount it having been in Desert Storm and spending a few years working the north and south "no fly zones" I can say from first hand experience that Iraq violated every single condition of the the peace treaty and we were obligated to remove Saddam from office. I don't care anything about yellowcake or WMD those arguments are for the kids in the playground. but it doesn't matter cause that stuff is really pretty much over. we need to be looking ahead and preparing for the next geopolitical crisis and not hangin on to the old ones EDIT: btw g'mornin deb, nice to see you

becca777 Joined Tue 08/05/08 Posts: 2161	Sat 09/27/08 09:28 AM
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enderra Joined Tue 04/15/08 Posts: 1719	Sat 09/27/08 10:04 AM
What about irrational reasons to vote for Obama? He preaches change, but do people even look at his policies? Because they want to see the first African American president. He is not even technically african american. "That means that Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. He is 43.75% Arabic, and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side." Even though his father lived in Kenya, his nationality according to Kenyan government was Arabic. (not that race should play a part in the election anyway) Because he is Charismatic. Speaking will only get you so far. Can he do more than just talk? IDK, he hasn't been around long enough to demonstrate this. Why do you kep pointing out he is Arabic?Though I agree he is not Black,why do you emphasize that all the time.Who cares? If Obama was an unknown person walking down the street, what would call him? Arabic,Please!!! I would Like to see his DNA breakdown. Then we can talk

enderra Joined Tue 04/15/08 Posts: 1719	Sat 09/27/08 10:07 AM
Not to mention this thread ain't about what Obama's make-up is. Stay on task. Mc Cain is great at making lower -middle class people think he is talking about then as he laughes all the way to his wives bank to buy another house.

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 09/27/08 10:13 AM
Not to mention this thread ain't about what Obama's make-up is. Stay on task. Mc Cain is great at making lower -middle class people think he is talking about then as he laughes all the way to his wives bank to buy another house. you're right I forgot the topic of this thread which was NOT about reasonable discussion. but is really just another partisan molotov cocktail only created to slime someone's reputation

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Sat 09/27/08 10:13 AM
Not to mention this thread ain't about what Obama's make-up is. Stay on task. Mc Cain is great at making lower -middle class people think he is talking about then as he laughes all the way to his wives bank to buy another house. How about this... since you support Obama, why not give us good solid reasons why. How do you think he will help us? And why are you so convinced he has OUR best interests in mind? Have you read his policies? What exactly will he "change"?

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 09/27/08 10:18 AM
I wonder if Obama is willing to go to war with Russia to defend Poland or the Ukraine?

enderra Joined Tue 04/15/08 Posts: 1719	Sat 09/27/08 10:21 AM
Not to mention this thread ain't about what Obama's make-up is. Stay on task. Mc Cain is great at making lower -middle class people think he is talking about then as he laughes all the way to his wives bank to buy another house. How about this... since you support Obama, why not give us good solid reasons why. How do you think he will help us? And why are you so convinced he has OUR best interests in mind? Have you read his policies? What exactly will he "change"? Why don't you tell me how Mc Cain is going to have your best interest?