All of the mysteries of LOVE begin and end on the stake!
And, when we examine the one man, Yeshuahanazeri (a/k/a Jesus Christ); suffering and dying for the sins of the world; this is the testimony of what we see:

Darkness covered the entire earth, from about 3pm- onward
The sun and moon refused to shine
And the stars withheld their brilliance;

Then, at the moment of His death-
There was a very grate earthquake
The rocks of the earth were split

And, the graves were opened:
The prophets and the saints were raised to new-ness-of-life
And the vial of the Temple was rent-in-twain!

BANG!

The entire creation STOPPED, and just could not continue any further.

And, the only thing left that could continue into the future, ...
to satisfy the grate inertia of the entire creation was the moment its-self!

And, it may be true that we are all literally caught up together with Him, in this one moment, which has been greatly drawn out unto the utter ends of the universe!

So that He might literally reach into the future and back into the past, simultaneously-

To draw all men unto Himself!

And, this is how He "folds the heavens together as a garment". And how they are changed!

Making it possible for us to literally be crucified with Him;
To literally suffer; Die and Raise to newness of life: together with my dead body! (Is 26:19)(AKJV)

Also, this may explain why no one knows the day or the hour of His appearing:

Because it is not "By and By"
Its not next week, month or year:

Rather, this event is ever with us
And it is not possible for us to be separated from it
Nor from Him

Rather, it is one moment/day & hour unlike any-other


But at the end of the day- It is morning
New Heavens and new earth come forth. And all things that offend, are done away with.


Yes. Understand?


mkkel

Do I understand? Nope... try again

I understand that this is a myth that is often overly romanticized and told in many conflicting variations.

Here, you give an account of graves being opened and prophets and staints being raised from the dead on the moment of his death.

But other people choose to romanticize the myth by having Christ himself being ressurected three days later and claiming that he is the FIRST to be ressurected.

There are so many ways to romanticize this myth.

For me, there is no romance in this myth at all. It represents a horrid event that was supposedly required because we have all been terrible people who have grossly failed our creator to the point where he had to have his Son butchered on a pole to save our pathetic ignorant souls.

I see nothing romantic about this at all. It's a totally disgraceful and pathetic situation that no human in their right mind should be proud of much less try to romanticize it.

Isn't quantum mechanics up for alternate universes???

So whare does this teaching/words come from? I see 1 verse in Isa quoted but the rest do you have another bible/scriptures for this? Blessings...Miles

I think its possible the Romans mutilated his body to the point that it was not going to be recognizable nor found by anyone, ever again. Either that or the folks returning to his tomb got confused on where he was buried. I am bit of a skeptic when it comes to reanimation of decedents.

mkkel, quoted:

And, the graves were opened:
The prophets and the saints were raised to new-ness-of-life
And the vial of the Temple was rent-in-twain!

TRIBO REPLY:

That is an incorrect statement from the book, be it an over sight or lack of careful reading that many people get wrong unfortunately.

AKJV:MATT: 27:

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.



Notice the "comma" after arose, Vs 52 and 53 are one sentence, conveying the complete thoughts here.

53 concludes that 52 did not happen >>UNTIL<< -> AFTER<- his "RESSURECTION"

The rest of what you state happened immediately upon him dieing, you are correct on that. But if they had came out of their graves "BEFORE" christ arose - then we would have a problem for sure. As you can see, this was not the case.

I agree Tribo.

I would say it does not say they did not go back to the grave or die they were not risen any in any other fashion.

also the only other account I can find of this ir from The Book of Barnabas. Pauls companion.

Now that book does appear to have some problems with it pertaining to the Day of Atonement and how it was done.

Also this i have a problem with the dead rising here for several reasons.

1..is not even slightly mentioned anywhere else. The 2nd Witness.

2nd Yahshua death and ressurrection has come down through the ages. I would be hard pressed to believe if the walking dead came down to Jerusalem somebody would of said WOW look at this and been writing about this historic event they were seeing before thier eyes.

Consequintly I take it with a grain of salt since it alters nothing else. Shalom...Miles

that's pretty much my conclusion also miles but thnx.

A diamond has many facets; and it the perfect cut, each are equally true. In quantum mechanics there are many probable
outcomes, and each must be considered for their individual merit when plotting future events,...

In Christ all things are possible and there is a time and place for all things--

And, everything he spoke, was articulated in parables.

So that the wise would be confounded and seen to be fools
That the humble might learn of Him and be full.

A myth is something later proven to be false:
eg the world is flat
the universe infinite
light speed a constant
darkmatter fifth dementional;
etc.

Time is like a sphere. At the core is the moment of His death/and the creation of new heavens and new earth.

From where we appear, we look back on that moment as something that transpired long ago and far away,...

We see His death, burial and resurrection. The works of the Apostles and all the following events leading up to opur present day.

Likewise, the men of old look from their past, into this event. They see these same things, according to their own perception and ability to understand.

But, He sees all.

To Him the past and the future are the same. Light and darkness are equal; And this is the perception I seek to share with you now.

We are living in the moment of His death/and resurrection.

The act of killing the man who is God has created a paradox which snares the entire creation as a bird in the net.

All of the psalms speak of it
The prophets agree
The Music of the ages teach it

And if you were not blind to the sin of your own life, with the men you abuse, you might see things correctly also?

Friend.

It is the core event of all existence
And, indeed, we are all witnesses to it!

He does this to separate the good from the bad; the wheat from the chaff. And at the end of the day, new heavens and new earth will appear. All that offends will be cast into one "universe" and the good and just fruits of this existence shall be saved into the "Other" universe. And a great gulf fixed between the "two".

For good and bad/light and dark/ bitter and sweet must exist. For He cannot repent of making everything in pairs. For good to exist evil must have a place also.

However, they need not be mixed together into the same cup, as they appear now. rather, they may be separated into separate vessels--

\As they shall

Honney he swollows up death hell and thye grave. The undoing of the graet injustice of beating this one innocent man todeatyh will be the undoing of every consequence of every injustice ever transacted.

Quite simple, he turns death right-side-out and just undoes the curse of sin, which is death!

He takes the bad song and makes it better (Hey Jude)

Everything is wrong-side-in; presently.

It is one day unlike any other.
Not light nor dark--

But at the end of this day--
It is light!

I hope you understand.

He becomes a curse to the curse and turns the death into life.

That's what love does best.

What you fail to contemplate is that the event of killing the man who is god has swallowed the entire creation itself--

And we are living in the very moment of His death
Which has been greatly drawn out unto the ends of the universe

And, Indeed the dead raised
Together with His dead body
As it was written.

Just, from the vantage point of the paradox we are existing in now, the whole of the moment has not yet been realized by all--
For the moment still unfolds.

The dead raise, bodily, to newness of life
And every wrong shall be righted
As it is also written,
Have faith the scriptures are certain/yet misunderstood/hidden from the wize of this aberration of the world that once was.
We all raise

It is the core of existence
And we see but part of the sphere of our own little time.

I see all that you say. Yet what you say circles itself.

So what is the sun and the moon a path and his word.

Where does Righteousness turn to darkness. It leans on a bevel that surely can be tipped?

His name and breathe are they the same?

Or does our spirit relay a fiery tongue that no man can deny.

We are law and the law brings light. Without law is chaos so was our creator ever lawless?


Thier are many paths to destruction my friend but only a narrow way to Life..Shalom...MIles

"the universe infinite
light speed a constant "

Proven wrong . ...


Wrong and wrong.

We do now know if the universe is finite and bounded, or infinite and unbounded. If bounded, we know the shapes it could take (3), if unbounded we know the shape.


Light is constant . . . it just sometimes has to travel longer distances, such as when it passes through glass . . . it will be refracted . . . which means changes course . . which we know that comparing a straight line vs a curve the straight line is the shorter distance . . . .

So . . . . ugh . . taking longer to travel a shorten distance does not mean slower . . . . so . . . ugh . . . wrong.

Its always pretty funny when someone tries to take religion and mingle it with science without really understanding the science.

"All of the mysteries of LOVE begin and end on the stake! "
WOW! So lets all begin our love with slaughter, sounds fun!

Fun post.