Topic: Welcome to Slavery
Dragoness's photo
Mon 09/22/08 09:25 PM


Man, your hatred of Clinton and the Democrats has got you all a twitter. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you'll try or lie, but weren't we running budget surpluses the last few years of the Clinton administration?














you asked me that in another thread.

at first, I tought it got deleted for some reason.

I have come to find you asking the same question in here, as it turns out.

so here's my answer from the other thread.:wink: laugh



of course we were.

he raised taxes by taxing stock options on unexercised offers to employess from employers that were historically left alone until the contracts were exercised and the persoanl gain was realized.

nice move.

he raised the limit on taxable income subject to SSi withholding and stole more money from the middle class without the ones making less than 65k/yr ever knowing how he pulled that plum out of his bag of tricks.

nice move.

he interferred with free market forces and made easy loans for people that can't qualify to rent a house, actually buy one. That move made housing sales of new and existing homes increae like wildfire and generate capital gains revenues for the IRS.

nice move.

The subsequeny housing shortage that he manipulated into existence with his interference lead to demand outstripping supply and causing further inflation in house prices, forever altering normal cycles of supply and demand and secalating even further the capital gains tax revenues,

nice move.


and these little bon mots of clintonomics created two huge bubbles in the economy.

the dot.con bust and the housing collapse.

and the blowback was the foreclosure rate of resets in ARMs that got unqualified homeowners in the mess they are in the first place.

and the worst rise in unemployment by one singular industry, namely the construction industry.


and you credit Bush with that?????????

you are on crack.



all of which Bush is dealing wwith now.


not to mention chasing bin ladin around the world, which clinton could have easily made a non issue and there would be no 9/11 and there would be no war in Iraq either.



keep drinking that KOOL AID.
drinks drinks drinks drinks drinks drinks


More of the over exaggerations and just plain not truths.

I find the use of Koolaid to be a racist remark. So not finding that cute at all.noway huh

Dragoness's photo
Mon 09/22/08 09:27 PM

Why does Wouldee keep saying "Drink the Kool-Aid"?

It pertains to the cult suicide in Jonestown. That was a sad event.




I have also found it to be used by racists these days also. Not funny to me at all.

Winx's photo
Mon 09/22/08 09:49 PM


Why does Wouldee keep saying "Drink the Kool-Aid"?

It pertains to the cult suicide in Jonestown. That was a sad event.




I have also found it to be used by racists these days also. Not funny to me at all.


Me, too.grumble

wouldee's photo
Mon 09/22/08 09:56 PM
laugh ok

I'll change it.

never thought about it being racist.

but I can see where you do.

who's the racist?:wink:


think

wouldee's photo
Mon 09/22/08 09:57 PM
better?


drinker bigsmile

Dragoness's photo
Mon 09/22/08 09:58 PM
Wasn't me who started it and wasn't me who continues to use it. I find it offensive when used in that context.

wouldee's photo
Mon 09/22/08 10:17 PM
well

I see it now.

he ruined a perfectly got subliminal image.tears

life is not fair , huh?


it's no fun when someone plays the race card.

let nobama know in an e-mail, won't you?


flowers



Winx's photo
Mon 09/22/08 10:29 PM
A half-black man playing the race card.


rofl rofl

wouldee's photo
Mon 09/22/08 10:33 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Winx's photo
Mon 09/22/08 10:39 PM
It's funny because it ain't happening.

wouldee's photo
Mon 09/22/08 10:51 PM
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304



The New Republic

Race Man
by Sean Wilentz
How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary Clinton.
Post Date Wednesday, February 27, 2008

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After several weeks of swooning, news reports are finally being filed about the gap between Senator Barack Obama's promises of a pure, soul-cleansing "new" politics and the calculated, deeply dishonest conduct of his actually-existing campaign. But it remains to be seen whether the latest ploy by the Obama camp--over allegations about the circulation of a photograph of Obama in ceremonial Somali dress--will be exposed by the press as the manipulative illusion that it is.

Most of the recent correctives have concerned outrageously deceptive advertisements approved and released by Obama's campaign. First, in Iowa, the Obama camp aired radio ads patterned on the notorious "Harry and Louise" Republican propaganda from 1993, charging falsely that Senator Hillary Clinton's health care proposal would "force those who cannot afford health insurance to buy it, punishing those who won't fall in line." In subsequent primary and caucus campaigns, the Obama campaign sent out millions of mailers, also featuring the "Harry and Louise" motif, falsely claiming that Clinton favored "punishing families who can't afford health care in the first place." A few bloggers and columnists, notably Paul Krugman in The New York Times, described the ads as distorting, but the national press corps mainly ignored them--until Clinton herself, seeing the fraudulent mailers reappear in Ohio over the past weekend, publicly denounced them.

The Obama mass mailings also attempt to appeal to Ohio's labor vote by claiming that Clinton believed that the North American Free Trade Agreement, signed in 1993 by President Bill Clinton, was a "'boon' to our economy." More falsehood: In fact, Clinton had not said that; Newsday originally applied the word "boon" and has now noted the Obama campaign's distortion. In this campaign, Clinton has called for a moratorium on all trade agreements until they are made consistent with labor and environmental standards--and account for the effect on jobs in the United States. Obama makes a big deal about how Bill Clinton signed NAFTA. But he fails to mention that, within the councils of her husband's administration, Hillary Clinton was a skeptic of free trade agreements, and as a senator and candidate she has said that NAFTA contained flaws that need to be rectified. Ignoring all that, the Obama flyer features an alarming photograph of closed plant gates, having no connection to any action of Senator Clinton's, as well as the dubious quotation about her from Newsday in 2006. Newsday has criticized "Obama's use of the quotation" as "misleading ... an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try and win an office." Obama, without retracting the mailing (and while playing to protectionist sentiment in the party) said only that he would have his staff look into the matter--long after the ad has done its dirty work.

Misleading propaganda is hardly new in American politics --although the adoption of techniques reminiscent of past Republican and special-interest hit jobs, right down to a retread of the fictional couple, seems strangely at odds with a campaign that proclaims it will redeem the country from precisely these sorts of divisive and manipulative tactics. As insidious as these tactics are, though, the Obama campaign's most effective gambits have been far more egregious and dangerous than the hypocritical deployment of deceptive and disingenuous attack ads. To a large degree, the campaign's strategists turned the primary and caucus race to their advantage when they deliberately, falsely, and successfully portrayed Clinton and her campaign as unscrupulous race-baiters--a campaign-within-the-campaign in which the worked-up flap over the Somali costume photograph is but the latest episode. While promoting Obama as a "post-racial" figure, his campaign has purposefully polluted the contest with a new strain of what historically has been the most toxic poison in American politics.

More than any other maneuver, this one has brought Clinton into disrepute with important portions of the Democratic Party. A review of what actually happened shows that the charges that the Clintons played the "race card" were not simply false; they were deliberately manufactured by the Obama camp and trumpeted by a credulous and/or compliant press corps in order to strip away her once formidable majority among black voters and to outrage affluent, college-educated white liberals as well as college students. The Clinton campaign, in fact, has not racialized the campaign, and never had any reason to do so. Rather the Obama campaign and its supporters, well-prepared to play the "race-baiter card" before the primaries began, launched it with a vengeance when Obama ran into dire straits after his losses in New Hampshire and Nevada--and thereby created a campaign myth that has turned into an incontrovertible truth among political pundits, reporters, and various Obama supporters. This development is the latest sad commentary on the malign power of the press, hyping its own favorites and tearing down those it dislikes, to create pseudo-scandals of the sort that hounded Al Gore during the 2000 campaign. It is also a commentary on how race can make American politics go haywire. Above all, it is a commentary on the cutthroat, fraudulent politics that lie at the foundation of Obama's supposedly uplifting campaign.



wouldee's photo
Mon 09/22/08 10:53 PM

http://americanelephant.com/blog/race-baiting-for-obama/

Race-baiting for Obama
By AmericanElephant • September 16, 2008

Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius showed that it is the Obama campaign who is without honor, stoking racial tensions and smearing the McCain campaign.

Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius accused Republicans on Tuesday of injecting race into the presidential campaign, arguing that they are using “code language” to convince Midwesterners that Democrat Barack Obama is different from them.

“Have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African-American?” Sebelius asked with sarcasm. “(Republicans) are not going to go lightly into the darkness.”

Sebelius was responding to a question from the audience at the Iowa City Public Library about the tenacity of Democrats and whether they would fight for victory as hard as Republicans in the closing weeks of the election.

She did not elaborate on her comment.

The only thing worse than this pathetic and unsubstantiated attack is the fact that the AP and/or the Miami Herald now appears to be covering it up.

So much for the politics of change.

Categories: Blog
Tags: barack obama, racism

wouldee's photo
Mon 09/22/08 11:11 PM
Edited by wouldee on Mon 09/22/08 11:12 PM
but you need to sit through this video and refrain from pulling your hair out when you do.

Both he and his wife have very subjective things to say about this campaign season and why nobama's racist attitudes do matter.

But land where you will, nobama does it, not his opponent.


http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaRace.htm


and if you dare, scroll down on the site and click the videos of his supporters views, while reading the excerpts accompanying this treatise which helps shape nobama's content and character in his own words and those of his confidants.



think

Winx's photo
Mon 09/22/08 11:18 PM

but you need to sit through this video and refrain from pulling your hair out when you do.

Both he and his wife have very subjective things to say about this campaign season and why nobama's racist attitudes do matter.

But land where you will, nobama does it, not his opponent.


http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaRace.htm


and if you dare, scroll down on the site and click the videos of his supporters views, while reading the excerpts accompanying this treatise which helps shape nobama's content and character in his own words and those of his confidants.



think


That is some B.S. site.

wouldee's photo
Mon 09/22/08 11:22 PM
well...

that comment should do its job and stop others from deciding for themselves, huh?


waving

wouldee's photo
Tue 09/23/08 09:06 AM
Edited by wouldee on Tue 09/23/08 09:07 AM
change of heart.

KOOL AID is cool!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you say that KOOL AID is a racist remark, then KOOL AID drinkers saying that can't drink KOOL AID.

Where's the love?

KOOL AID is for everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, in that light, KOOL AID should be drunk down or boycotting it will only lead to deprivation of those that enjoy KOOL AID, as a group so depicted by the ones that call KOOL AID drinking racist.

HOW???????????

Because that suggests that KOOL AID drinkers are racist themselves, by inference.

I cannot allow that characterization shape the image of KOOL AID.


I AM FREE!!!!!!!! at last.


Drink KOOL AID, my socialist comrades.


drinks drinks drinks drinks drinks drinks


ahhh.. a good night's sleep refreshes the mind.

:thumbsup: waving

t22learner's photo
Tue 09/23/08 03:40 PM
Tonight I heard a conservative talk show host telling his audience about the 9/21 Nicholas Kristof column in the NYT. The column is about the sleaziness of Muslim smearing Obama from the right. The ranter from the right shall not be named, and didn't mention the article's theme, just this part:

"I asked him about Islam and his boyhood in Indonesia. In that interview, Mr. Obama praised the Arabic call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset,” and he repeated the opening of it."

Admiring a prayer sung at sunset is the smear. I wonder if our right leaning participants are proud of that?

warmachine's photo
Tue 09/23/08 03:48 PM

Tonight I heard a conservative talk show host telling his audience about the 9/21 Nicholas Kristof column in the NYT. The column is about the sleaziness of Muslim smearing Obama from the right. The ranter from the right shall not be named, and didn't mention the article's theme, just this part:

"I asked him about Islam and his boyhood in Indonesia. In that interview, Mr. Obama praised the Arabic call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset,” and he repeated the opening of it."

Admiring a prayer sung at sunset is the smear. I wonder if our right leaning participants are proud of that?


Whats sad, is the Muslim call to prayer actually is quite beautiful. I know this because, in my search to understand their views, I went to the mosque in Kansas a couple of times.
Does going into a mosque and having a conversation with Muslims make me an Islamofacsist (totally made up word by the way)?

Then why does saying you admire the call to prayer and having the ability to recite some of it, make someone a muslim?

McCain spent 5 years in Hanoi, does that make him a Communist?

HealthyLifestyle's photo
Wed 09/24/08 11:59 AM
Ya'll need to get back on topic with the thread at hand.
You are running a rabbit trail here.
You are being offended at NOTHING. Kool-aid Smool-aid... who cares???? Not me for sure. Why do you want to be so self-centered? There are important issues at hand, which will affect the entire world. Quit squabbling over insignificant misunderstandings and state your point on the thread topic.
I do not believe I read Obama's name in the subjectmatter which Madman posted. Racism is not the topic here. If you choose to discuss racism, then please do... start your own thread.

Now... Madman my dear friend. It's been a long while! Hugs for you!!!
I have something to say on this subject.
I was very pleased to read today that the FBI (can we trust them?) is now investigating the corporations whom have been bailed out, including over 20 other corporations, for FRAUD!!! Actually, with intent to falsify their records to achieve major losses for the purpose of deceiving the government into bailing them out. Imagine this?! What Balls of steel!!! Face it, these bankers have been crooks all along and I will dance a jig with you if it turns out to be FRAUD and they go down for it! I will come to Ohio my friend and we shall celebrate the Victory for Justice!!!
Will it happen? We shall see. The entire conglamorate of crooks, the FED included, are being exposed through these events.
It is their plan though.
Welcome to the Camp, you SLAVES!!!
HL

no photo
Wed 09/24/08 12:04 PM
Im still waiting for the ENRON guys to get their just desserts...but Im expecting its going to be a cold day in hell before that happens....