THNX for all the input MS, now here is my response.

Between Russell and Chilton, the case has been made. It's not my books its not my eschatology or my belief, what it does show is this - you have men in your belief system that consider themselves a spirit filled believers and led just as you, looking into those "deeper" meanings of your god's word, the conclusions that they both come to is that Jesus returned his coming[parusia] was back in AD 70, Is he to come again? NO! from here on out it is what he calls Dominion living - meaning you accept christ and follow him and live your life the best you can with the HS guidance and eventually you die and go to be with him - is that a bad thing in your eyes??

The thing i don't like about "DOMINION" theology is this - it tries to stir up the Christians to take things into their own hands in the name of Jesus and try to change everything they can to make a world for Christ, which in essence is what your trying to do here anyway. the diff. is, your flawed thinking that Jesus is YET to return and a rapture and a 1000 year reign on earth, read David chiltons boook the days of vengeance and you will see that this is not the case.

bottom line? if you continue as others have for around 2000 yrs, that Christ is physically going to return and give us non-believers just punishment - your are mistaken - if by chance you are correct our punishment will given only after we die naturally not by a bunch of impending dooms that befell Israel 2000 yrs ago.

it's a different world now MS, wake up and smell the coffee, go take a walk, and smell the roses, live your christian like to the fullest, and then go be with your Jesus, he will be waiting for you I'm sure. BUT!! you will be rebuked for listening to your false teachers, and that you will not like unless you look into what you believe now and repent[change your mind] about the lies you've been fed by your futurist teachers,

have a wonderful day MS, i know i will.

Sorry art girl that was for the initial purrpose of posting without interruption of what i was posting - the floor is open for any and all debate - but the onlt debate i see that can take place is whether or not what i posted is true or a lie and that would have to be from scholars much more learned on the subject than i or spider or others here. The material is not some hastily written psot on a religious thread to be responded to flippantly so to say. but your comments are more than welcome -

your correct my lady, thnx for having my back - the floor is open to anyone who wants to comment or debate - about the book or anything said by others - have at it fellow minglers. -

It is moot to me too ...

no worries Tribo ... I have no desire to debate here ... the little brat in me just found it funny being told what to do - sorry

I think that "little brat" is common to all of us