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Topic: The Fall of Man...
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Wed 09/10/08 10:07 AM
When we speak of "Man" I wonder what that means. I believe that any upright self aware humanoid fits this label. Some of the galaxy 'aliens' (beings) that existed before Humans may have looked like us, but they are not like us, the ones we call human.

Hu means "God."

All intelligent humanoid galaxy life including the pleidians, the draconians, the grays, the sirians, the nagas, the mantis people, etc. can all be described as "MAN" as a group IMO.

But when we came along they added 'Hu' to the 'man.' This literally means Godman.

Humans have a spark of creative genius that other galaxy creatures do not have. They were given more creativity and their incarnation path is a rapid simultaneous path as apposed to the galaxy aliens sequential incarnation path. Humans also have and feel more emotions, which is something that the angels (aliens) lack.

The human's superior range of emotions and their simultaneous incarnation path will lift them to ascension at a rapid rate compared to the galaxy aliens who engineered and watched over and ruled them. Humans will ascend to a higher state of consciousness and leave the third density long before the long time residents of this galaxy can ascend.

(Some of this is information is put forth by the Leading Edge Research group.)

JB


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Wed 09/10/08 12:18 PM
Edited by splendidlife on Wed 09/10/08 12:26 PM

When we speak of "Man" I wonder what that means. I believe that any upright self aware humanoid fits this label. Some of the galaxy 'aliens' (beings) that existed before Humans may have looked like us, but they are not like us, the ones we call human.

Hu means "God."

All intelligent humanoid galaxy life including the pleidians, the draconians, the grays, the sirians, the nagas, the mantis people, etc. can all be described as "MAN" as a group IMO.

But when we came along they added 'Hu' to the 'man.' This literally means Godman.

Humans have a spark of creative genius that other galaxy creatures do not have. They were given more creativity and their incarnation path is a rapid simultaneous path as apposed to the galaxy aliens sequential incarnation path. Humans also have and feel more emotions, which is something that the angels (aliens) lack.

The human's superior range of emotions and their simultaneous incarnation path will lift them to ascension at a rapid rate compared to the galaxy aliens who engineered and watched over and ruled them. Humans will ascend to a higher state of consciousness and leave the third density long before the long time residents of this galaxy can ascend.

(Some of this is information is put forth by the Leading Edge Research group.)

JB




Perhaps, until there've been completed cycles of human experience in the physical realm, we... as whole beings - angels or aliens - cannot fully "ascend".

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Wed 09/10/08 01:08 PM


When we speak of "Man" I wonder what that means. I believe that any upright self aware humanoid fits this label. Some of the galaxy 'aliens' (beings) that existed before Humans may have looked like us, but they are not like us, the ones we call human.

Hu means "God."

All intelligent humanoid galaxy life including the pleidians, the draconians, the grays, the sirians, the nagas, the mantis people, etc. can all be described as "MAN" as a group IMO.

But when we came along they added 'Hu' to the 'man.' This literally means Godman.

Humans have a spark of creative genius that other galaxy creatures do not have. They were given more creativity and their incarnation path is a rapid simultaneous path as apposed to the galaxy aliens sequential incarnation path. Humans also have and feel more emotions, which is something that the angels (aliens) lack.

The human's superior range of emotions and their simultaneous incarnation path will lift them to ascension at a rapid rate compared to the galaxy aliens who engineered and watched over and ruled them. Humans will ascend to a higher state of consciousness and leave the third density long before the long time residents of this galaxy can ascend.

(Some of this is information is put forth by the Leading Edge Research group.)

JB




Perhaps, until there've been completed cycles of human experience in the physical realm, we... as whole beings - angels or aliens - cannot fully "ascend".



I suspect earth humans and some planetary spirits will ascend to a higher density very soon. In comparison, the galaxy inhabitants (non humans of various species and races) will remain in third density for thousands, maybe millions of years. (There may be other planets in this universe that are experimenting with humans also, so it may not just be earth humans.)

In the next density, technology as we know it in this world will be useless. The power of the mind alone will accomplish manifestations. Think it and you create it. Imagination rules.

In this world, you have to think it and you have to work a lot harder to bring it into manifestation. Everything is dense and slowed down. Technology rules here but even that requires imagination.

On the astral (dream) world, I can sit down to paint a picture and all I have to do is think the color I want and it appears on my paintbrush. In this world, We have to make the paints, mix the color and scoop it up onto the paint brush and brush it onto the canvas. It takes more work to paint a picture here.

On the higher density worlds, you communicate with thoughts and feelings and pictures. Here, you are limited with body language and verbal language.

JB




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Wed 09/10/08 01:33 PM



When we speak of "Man" I wonder what that means. I believe that any upright self aware humanoid fits this label. Some of the galaxy 'aliens' (beings) that existed before Humans may have looked like us, but they are not like us, the ones we call human.

Hu means "God."

All intelligent humanoid galaxy life including the pleidians, the draconians, the grays, the sirians, the nagas, the mantis people, etc. can all be described as "MAN" as a group IMO.

But when we came along they added 'Hu' to the 'man.' This literally means Godman.

Humans have a spark of creative genius that other galaxy creatures do not have. They were given more creativity and their incarnation path is a rapid simultaneous path as apposed to the galaxy aliens sequential incarnation path. Humans also have and feel more emotions, which is something that the angels (aliens) lack.

The human's superior range of emotions and their simultaneous incarnation path will lift them to ascension at a rapid rate compared to the galaxy aliens who engineered and watched over and ruled them. Humans will ascend to a higher state of consciousness and leave the third density long before the long time residents of this galaxy can ascend.

(Some of this is information is put forth by the Leading Edge Research group.)

JB




Perhaps, until there've been completed cycles of human experience in the physical realm, we... as whole beings - angels or aliens - cannot fully "ascend".



I suspect earth humans and some planetary spirits will ascend to a higher density very soon. In comparison, the galaxy inhabitants (non humans of various species and races) will remain in third density for thousands, maybe millions of years. (There may be other planets in this universe that are experimenting with humans also, so it may not just be earth humans.)

In the next density, technology as we know it in this world will be useless. The power of the mind alone will accomplish manifestations. Think it and you create it. Imagination rules.

In this world, you have to think it and you have to work a lot harder to bring it into manifestation. Everything is dense and slowed down. Technology rules here but even that requires imagination.

On the astral (dream) world, I can sit down to paint a picture and all I have to do is think the color I want and it appears on my paintbrush. In this world, We have to make the paints, mix the color and scoop it up onto the paint brush and brush it onto the canvas. It takes more work to paint a picture here.

On the higher density worlds, you communicate with thoughts and feelings and pictures. Here, you are limited with body language and verbal language.

JB






JB... If you would, speak more about the higher density worlds. For example... do you think it possible that we access these "worlds" while in dream states... during REM sleep?

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Wed 09/10/08 01:35 PM
Edited by splendidlife on Wed 09/10/08 02:11 PM



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Wed 09/10/08 03:33 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 09/10/08 03:35 PM




When we speak of "Man" I wonder what that means. I believe that any upright self aware humanoid fits this label. Some of the galaxy 'aliens' (beings) that existed before Humans may have looked like us, but they are not like us, the ones we call human.

Hu means "God."

All intelligent humanoid galaxy life including the pleidians, the draconians, the grays, the sirians, the nagas, the mantis people, etc. can all be described as "MAN" as a group IMO.

But when we came along they added 'Hu' to the 'man.' This literally means Godman.

Humans have a spark of creative genius that other galaxy creatures do not have. They were given more creativity and their incarnation path is a rapid simultaneous path as apposed to the galaxy aliens sequential incarnation path. Humans also have and feel more emotions, which is something that the angels (aliens) lack.

The human's superior range of emotions and their simultaneous incarnation path will lift them to ascension at a rapid rate compared to the galaxy aliens who engineered and watched over and ruled them. Humans will ascend to a higher state of consciousness and leave the third density long before the long time residents of this galaxy can ascend.

(Some of this is information is put forth by the Leading Edge Research group.)

JB




Perhaps, until there've been completed cycles of human experience in the physical realm, we... as whole beings - angels or aliens - cannot fully "ascend".



I suspect earth humans and some planetary spirits will ascend to a higher density very soon. In comparison, the galaxy inhabitants (non humans of various species and races) will remain in third density for thousands, maybe millions of years. (There may be other planets in this universe that are experimenting with humans also, so it may not just be earth humans.)

In the next density, technology as we know it in this world will be useless. The power of the mind alone will accomplish manifestations. Think it and you create it. Imagination rules.

In this world, you have to think it and you have to work a lot harder to bring it into manifestation. Everything is dense and slowed down. Technology rules here but even that requires imagination.

On the astral (dream) world, I can sit down to paint a picture and all I have to do is think the color I want and it appears on my paintbrush. In this world, We have to make the paints, mix the color and scoop it up onto the paint brush and brush it onto the canvas. It takes more work to paint a picture here.

On the higher density worlds, you communicate with thoughts and feelings and pictures. Here, you are limited with body language and verbal language.

JB






JB... If you would, speak more about the higher density worlds. For example... do you think it possible that we access these "worlds" while in dream states... during REM sleep?


The dream scape worlds are lower astral worlds. You certainly do visit the lower astral worlds via the dream state. But they are not necessarily the higher density worlds.

The books to read about this stuff are books by Robert Monroe. He wrote three books about out of body travels.


JB




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Wed 09/10/08 03:39 PM


I evaluate information and expect all information to have some truth in it. I have thought about the concept of the famous "Fall" that religions talk about and wondered exactly what that might mean within my frame of reference, if indeed it means anything.

I will start with the premise that it means something, but not what you think it does or what religions preach it means.

In a vast conscious universe of vibration and frequency, where there are many star systems and planets and worlds and perhaps invisible ones we cannot see because of their frequency, one must begin by defining up and down.

In this earth world, up is toward the sky and down is toward the earth. Simple enough. But in a universe up and down has to do with frequency, not gravity, earth and sky.

Before the third density material worlds existed, I believe that all material worlds existed at a higher frequency and it is possible that those worlds were ideal worlds.

Perhaps it was never intended that the frequency would decrease and matter would condense as much as it has in this, the physical universe.

Therefore I think that the "Fall of Man" was actually a decent into a denser and slower frequency of consciousness.

When this happened, man lost many natural abilities and lost memory and awareness, reverting back to a creature consciousness.

From there, the ascent has been a very slow one but we are climbing to a higher frequency of consciousness.

I think that 2012 marks the true beginning of the ascension of human consciousness, although it is happening right now.

We are climbing out of the dense fog of physical reality towards a type of single awareness.

Of course I could be wrong. Any thoughts?

JB



Interesting concept.

To me, "The Fall of man" is simpler than that, it's simply when man chooses to disobey God (sin).

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Wed 09/10/08 04:09 PM
Interesting concept.

To me, "The Fall of man" is simpler than that, it's simply when man chooses to disobey God (sin).


That is the Biblical or religious understanding perhaps, which I have discarded as being illogical.

"Sin" is a word that is defined only within religious doctrine. Outside of that doctrine, the word has no meaning.

Therefore when you speak the word "sin" you are speaking within the confines of a religious doctrine.

For people who do not live under the authority of religious doctrine the word "sin" is meaningless and a moot point.

Therefor the "fall of man" if it has any meaning at all, must mean something else besides just man's decision to disobey what they believe to be God's law.

Rather than to discount the story of this great "fall" that everyone talks about, I decided to see if I could find some meaning in the information.

In the universe the word "fall" means to go downwards as apposed to upwards. But in the vast universe, there is no up and down. Up and down only apply on a planet with gravity.

So up and down in a universal scale can only mean lower and higher is density or frequency, as everything is vibration and frequency.

This is a more scientific look at what a "fall" might mean on a universal scale.

JB









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