Topic: extra-terrestrial
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Sun 09/07/08 11:57 AM

What do you think was going on with those mutilated cows they found back in the 70s? Like they had been surgically dissected? Did anyone ever cop to that? Im guessing it was military perhaps experimenting on some kind of biological warfare or maybe a bovine virus or anthrax or something or other. Was there ever a plausible explanation for that situation?


No bovine virus can surgically cut a hole in a cow's ass and remove the reproductive organs, or suck the entire contents of a cow's brain out of the skull, or strip the skull of all flesh and hide and melt or steal the brain.

I witnessed the body of a mutilated cow on a ranch in Colorado.

Near Colorado Springs.. Near Norad, Fort Carson, and an air force base.

These kinds of places are where many UFO sightings and other strange things happen. The Military covered these cases up. They usually collected the carcases and you never heard from them again. They were not responsible for doing this, they had an agreement with the aliens to permit it and cover it up after the fact.

This was the beginning stages of an alien plan to create a human clone or cross breed that they could inhabit or control.

I had my theories then that they picked cows and stole their reproductive organs for their research because the gestation for growing a calf is the same amount of time it takes to grow a human.

Apparently their plans did not work because in later years they began abducting and impregnating actual human women then stealing their babies.

JB










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Sun 09/07/08 12:13 PM

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Sun 09/07/08 01:19 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 09/07/08 01:21 PM


What do you think was going on with those mutilated cows they found back in the 70s? Like they had been surgically dissected? Did anyone ever cop to that? Im guessing it was military perhaps experimenting on some kind of biological warfare or maybe a bovine virus or anthrax or something or other. Was there ever a plausible explanation for that situation?


No bovine virus can surgically cut a hole in a cow's ass and remove the reproductive organs, or suck the entire contents of a cow's brain out of the skull, or strip the skull of all flesh and hide and melt or steal the brain.

I witnessed the body of a mutilated cow on a ranch in Colorado.

Near Colorado Springs.. Near Norad, Fort Carson, and an air force base.

These kinds of places are where many UFO sightings and other strange things happen. The Military covered these cases up. They usually collected the carcases and you never heard from them again. They were not responsible for doing this, they had an agreement with the aliens to permit it and cover it up after the fact.

This was the beginning stages of an alien plan to create a human clone or cross breed that they could inhabit or control.

I had my theories then that they picked cows and stole their reproductive organs for their research because the gestation for growing a calf is the same amount of time it takes to grow a human.

Apparently their plans did not work because in later years they began abducting and impregnating actual human women then stealing their babies.

JB












I found a website here. http://www.aliendave.com/UUFOH_CattleMutilations.html

the skeptics point of view

http://skepdic.com/cattle.html

Im just putting both to be fair of course.

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Sun 09/07/08 01:23 PM
Why does humankind have such a hard time accepting the possibility of other life forms, other intelligences, other consciousness possibly far advanced beyond our experiences?

I always find it ironic that most find it easy to believe in the intangible godhead, which is something that cannot be touched or seen in this physicality, and yet vehementantly deny ANY possibility of other life forms.

I am not that arrogant.

We are but an arm of ALL the universal consciousness that avails upon us.... and there are many 'arms' to this galaxy, let alone the infinite others.


The only mutilations I have witnessed is that which humankind creates.. :wink:

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Sun 09/07/08 01:48 PM

Why does humankind have such a hard time accepting the possibility of other life forms, other intelligences, other consciousness possibly far advanced beyond our experiences?

I always find it ironic that most find it easy to believe in the intangible godhead, which is something that cannot be touched or seen in this physicality, and yet vehementantly deny ANY possibility of other life forms.

I am not that arrogant.

We are but an arm of ALL the universal consciousness that avails upon us.... and there are many 'arms' to this galaxy, let alone the infinite others.


The only mutilations I have witnessed is that which humankind creates.. :wink:


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Sun 09/07/08 02:02 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 09/07/08 02:06 PM


Why does humankind have such a hard time accepting the possibility of other life forms, other intelligences, other consciousness possibly far advanced beyond our experiences?

I always find it ironic that most find it easy to believe in the intangible godhead, which is something that cannot be touched or seen in this physicality, and yet vehementantly deny ANY possibility of other life forms.

I am not that arrogant.

We are but an arm of ALL the universal consciousness that avails upon us.... and there are many 'arms' to this galaxy, let alone the infinite others.


The only mutilations I have witnessed is that which humankind creates.. :wink:


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Oh I agree with you 150%. Bravo! Well said. I just figured this would be the first and last time I could bring up the topic of mysterious animal mutilations. I recall seeing some show about it years ago and then nothing there after. I dont even remember hearing anyone discuss any real explanations or possible causes. It kind of dropped off the radar. spock

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Sun 09/07/08 02:17 PM



Why does humankind have such a hard time accepting the possibility of other life forms, other intelligences, other consciousness possibly far advanced beyond our experiences?

I always find it ironic that most find it easy to believe in the intangible godhead, which is something that cannot be touched or seen in this physicality, and yet vehementantly deny ANY possibility of other life forms.

I am not that arrogant.

We are but an arm of ALL the universal consciousness that avails upon us.... and there are many 'arms' to this galaxy, let alone the infinite others.


The only mutilations I have witnessed is that which humankind creates.. :wink:


flowerforyou drinker frustrated laugh


Oh I agree with you 150%. Bravo! Well said. I just figured this would be the first and last time I could bring up the topic of mysterious animal mutilations. I recall seeing some show about it years ago and then nothing there after. I dont even remember hearing anyone discuss any real explanations or possible causes. It kind of dropped off the radar. spock


just google - alien animal mutilations, its alive and wel but not happening as much as it was.

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Sun 09/07/08 02:32 PM



What do you think was going on with those mutilated cows they found back in the 70s? Like they had been surgically dissected? Did anyone ever cop to that? Im guessing it was military perhaps experimenting on some kind of biological warfare or maybe a bovine virus or anthrax or something or other. Was there ever a plausible explanation for that situation?


No bovine virus can surgically cut a hole in a cow's ass and remove the reproductive organs, or suck the entire contents of a cow's brain out of the skull, or strip the skull of all flesh and hide and melt or steal the brain.

I witnessed the body of a mutilated cow on a ranch in Colorado.

Near Colorado Springs.. Near Norad, Fort Carson, and an air force base.

These kinds of places are where many UFO sightings and other strange things happen. The Military covered these cases up. They usually collected the carcases and you never heard from them again. They were not responsible for doing this, they had an agreement with the aliens to permit it and cover it up after the fact.

This was the beginning stages of an alien plan to create a human clone or cross breed that they could inhabit or control.

I had my theories then that they picked cows and stole their reproductive organs for their research because the gestation for growing a calf is the same amount of time it takes to grow a human.

Apparently their plans did not work because in later years they began abducting and impregnating actual human women then stealing their babies.

JB





I found a website here. http://www.aliendave.com/UUFOH_CattleMutilations.html

the skeptics point of view

http://skepdic.com/cattle.html

Im just putting both to be fair of course.


Interesting article but it was extremely unscientific, lacked very little information about anything, and it offered no scientific explanation for many unanswered questions other than a few lame excuses. It was clearly written by someone who knows nothing about these actual cases, and it basically described what "true believers" thought was going on as if to suggest that they made it all up to their satisfaction.

It did not address the question as to why every single case of a mutilated cow (at least in Colorado) that was reported to authorities was turned over to or confiscated by the Military and then the Military gave no explanations as to what or how this happened or who might be doing it, and refused to talk publicly about it. Also it made no mention of the pressure that was placed on the local news media NOT to publish anything about these cases.

Clearly a cover up people.

At the time it was happening in Colorado Springs and Pueblo area people reported seeing and being threatened by men with weapons in black helicopters that made no sound. The military released a statement to the press that no such silent helicopter existed.

Later, its existence is acknowledged, and they claimed that at the time these crafts were "classified" and "top secret."

Bottom line is, they Lie, they classify everything, and YOU CAN'T TRUST ANYTHING THEY SAY.

Least of all this lame article that is supposed to be giving the "other side" of the story. It did not tell me anything I did and don't already know about the subject and it shed no new light on what was really going on. I would love to speak to this person who seems to claim to have all the answers and ask him some very specific questions, but that will never happen because the guy doesn't know or have any real answers.

With today's forensic science advances and even advances they had back then, even an idiot can tell the difference between a cow killed by an animal or eaten by insects and one that was slaughtered and mutilated in such a strange and violent way all within the span of one single night.

That is not time for any of the insects or other things to happen to this animal.

I love to read skeptics attempting to explain things they have no clue about.

JB




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Sun 09/07/08 02:44 PM
You will notice that the skeptic and the disinformation agents seem to always frame a situation in such a way that it points the opposite direction from the truth.

The truth is that these abductions are not done by aliens who "traveled to Earth from some other planet."

But they would like people to keep looking up at the sky for the invasion force. The real truth is, the invasion force is NOT COMING FROM THE SKY or from "some other planet."

The people who know this, don't want you to know this, probably because the people who know this are the aliens or work for the aliens.

So keep looking up to the sky and out in space while the aliens from beneath the earth and from the fourth dimensional vortex invade this world and infiltrate it.

You will never see them coming because they are already here and have been for a long time.

Here is an example of the so-called crap they spew:


There is a widespread belief that alien beings have traveled to Earth from some other planet and are doing reproductive experiments on a chosen few. Despite the incredible nature of this belief and a lack of credible supportive evidence, a cult has grown up around it. According to a Gallup poll done at the end of the twentieth century, about one-third of Americans believe aliens have visited us, an increase of 5% over the previous decade.


http://skepdic.com/aliens.html

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Sun 09/07/08 02:58 PM

You will notice that the skeptic and the disinformation agents seem to always frame a situation in such a way that it points the opposite direction from the truth.

The truth is that these abductions are not done by aliens who "traveled to Earth from some other planet."

But they would like people to keep looking up at the sky for the invasion force. The real truth is, the invasion force is NOT COMING FROM THE SKY or from "some other planet."

The people who know this, don't want you to know this, probably because the people who know this are the aliens or work for the aliens.

So keep looking up to the sky and out in space while the aliens from beneath the earth and from the fourth dimensional vortex invade this world and infiltrate it.

You will never see them coming because they are already here and have been for a long time.

Here is an example of the so-called crap they spew:


There is a widespread belief that alien beings have traveled to Earth from some other planet and are doing reproductive experiments on a chosen few. Despite the incredible nature of this belief and a lack of credible supportive evidence, a cult has grown up around it. According to a Gallup poll done at the end of the twentieth century, about one-third of Americans believe aliens have visited us, an increase of 5% over the previous decade.


http://skepdic.com/aliens.html


are you trying to tell us something goddess??

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Sun 09/07/08 03:08 PM
Well mainly I was interested because I have livestock here. If I was to find something like that it would be quite terrifying. Especially since Im a little bit attached to the animals on an emotional level. I agree though that you can clearly see the difference in a cauterized wound or dissection rather than animal inflicted wounds. For one thing, the only wild animal that would attempt to take down a steer would be a wolf pack or coy dogs (domestic dogs that have gotten lose and formed bands) and generally they are not hunting something that large. Its not unheard of but you would CLEARLY be able to see the difference in the attack. Wolves or dogs would tear out the soft underbelly and drag out the intestines. Not neatly and cleanly dissect the head on only one side and leave the rest of the animal intact. It would be haphazard and a mess if animals were responsible.

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Sun 09/07/08 03:22 PM
evidentally you do not know about Mayo Clinics wolf physicians program to train them in the art of surgical procedures on their prey, 7 year program cos the Govmt. millions just to turn out a pack of top notch wolf surgeons. bigsmile

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Sun 09/07/08 03:32 PM

Well mainly I was interested because I have livestock here. If I was to find something like that it would be quite terrifying. Especially since Im a little bit attached to the animals on an emotional level. I agree though that you can clearly see the difference in a cauterized wound or dissection rather than animal inflicted wounds. For one thing, the only wild animal that would attempt to take down a steer would be a wolf pack or coy dogs (domestic dogs that have gotten lose and formed bands) and generally they are not hunting something that large. Its not unheard of but you would CLEARLY be able to see the difference in the attack. Wolves or dogs would tear out the soft underbelly and drag out the intestines. Not neatly and cleanly dissect the head on only one side and leave the rest of the animal intact. It would be haphazard and a mess if animals were responsible.


There are certain criteria that will let you know where the hot spots are where this kind of activity prevails here are some of them:

1.) There is an military installation in the area.
2.) There is a large lake in the area.
3.) There have been sitings of UFO's or big foot in the area.

If all three of these describe your area, you are likely to have problems. If none of these describe your area you probably don't need to worry about it.

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Sun 09/07/08 03:41 PM
My favorite subject of all time...which is so hard to discuss with certain people...I often talk on this subject to a friend of mine who has had some strange experiences in life like I have had. If I bring this up to anyone else I know, they think I'm nuts...

I fully believe there is other intelligent life other than humans that exist. It's hard to say where exactly they originated from, but I'm sure that a few races even exist on our planet alone and have for quite awhile. I also believe a lot of the technology we have today, warfare type and even recreational technology wasn't founded by humans...though that can be a potential picky subject..

I witnessed a UFO as a kid, and have had paranormal experiences as well growing up. The reason why I particularly became so intrigued by the subject [not that those experiences weren't enough already], was because I began to have these really strange dreams...

I was having dreams of seeing and experiencing just very very weird things. Abductions, experiments, spiritual trips, and sightings of creatures and machines that aren't originated from here. I kept wondering why the heck am I dreaming this stuff? The even stranger aspect is that at times, I was terrified, and at other times, I was being "taught" something through experiments.

and no, none of it was drug induced. The only time I've had a spiritual "trip" with aid, was by taking DMT extract [Dimethyltryptamine], which can't be considered a drug. It's only considered a drug because it's studies program plug was pulled by the government to keep us from learning and breaking boundaries. the government thought if studies went to far and uncovered certain knowledge, Religion and ethic values may be damaged.

...btw for anyone not familiar with it DMT is a chemical that naturally occurs in our bodies EVERY night...while we're sleeping...we sleep for hours...yet can't even remember a full hour or 2 of events even. So scientists wanted to study just exactly wth is going on and why we can't recall what is happening to us. Then they found that DMT was being secreted by our brain, and also came to find that DMT is only supposed to be in the body at 2 times for humans. 1 - REM sleep, 2 - right before you die [hence NDE] for humans DMT is produced in the pineal gland [If I remember correctly]...DMT is in other life forms as well...more importantly...in older animals like lizards and amphibians...the pineal gland is referred to as a "3rd" eye where DMT is produced. Though it isn't an actual "visible" eye...

the knowledge attained by these studies lead different people to different conclusions and beliefs even. The "spirit molecule" theory began this way I believe...

It's always referred to as a hallucination...however I just believe it's stupid to call the experiences that...a dream is a dream..without sleep a human will die..we "need" that deep sleep..and what we are experiencing that we can't remember...plays a vital role in our unconscious minds/life and is a necessity to life...

I wanted to experience it for myself at least once in my life...and so far...it has altered the way I think dramatically...what you see and experience is very hard to explain..at best it's as if you are communicating with some higher being, but you are communicating with this higher being because you are in a death state, and the NDE takes place, until you come to the end where I will leave it blank...but at the end, your body forces you to wake because you aren't dead...both a terrifying and beautiful experience...if practiced, you can train yourself to react differently in that state instead of flowing with the path presented to you by the being, you instead, can attempt to communicate.

[my bad I guess I got carried away]


if I'm incorrect on any of that feel free to correct me.




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Sun 09/07/08 04:26 PM
very interestinf AHA, i'm not familiar with it but i will definitely look into it. is it leagal?

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Sun 09/07/08 04:52 PM
Tribo:

are you trying to tell us something goddess??


Nope. frustrated huh

Just keep doing what you're doing.--bigsmile


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Sun 09/07/08 04:53 PM


You will notice that the skeptic and the disinformation agents seem to always frame a situation in such a way that it points the opposite direction from the truth.

The truth is that these abductions are not done by aliens who "traveled to Earth from some other planet."

But they would like people to keep looking up at the sky for the invasion force. The real truth is, the invasion force is NOT COMING FROM THE SKY or from "some other planet."

The people who know this, don't want you to know this, probably because the people who know this are the aliens or work for the aliens.

So keep looking up to the sky and out in space while the aliens from beneath the earth and from the fourth dimensional vortex invade this world and infiltrate it.

You will never see them coming because they are already here and have been for a long time.

Here is an example of the so-called crap they spew:


There is a widespread belief that alien beings have traveled to Earth from some other planet and are doing reproductive experiments on a chosen few. Despite the incredible nature of this belief and a lack of credible supportive evidence, a cult has grown up around it. According to a Gallup poll done at the end of the twentieth century, about one-third of Americans believe aliens have visited us, an increase of 5% over the previous decade.


http://skepdic.com/aliens.html


are you trying to tell us something goddess??




Nope. frustrated huh

Just keep doing what you're doing.--bigsmile



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Sun 09/07/08 05:40 PM
nah it's not legal here....its actually a pretty illegal substance now so it's not all that easy to get

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Sun 09/07/08 05:56 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 09/07/08 06:10 PM

nah it's not legal here....its actually a pretty illegal substance now so it's not all that easy to get


The body produces it from the pineal gland? That is very interesting. That is said to be "the seat of soul" or the third eye and I think is looks like a pine comb.

A statue of a pine cone in the Vatican, symbol of the pineal gland, found in many ancient cultures, from the video of David Wilcock

Strange that this symbol is a statue in the Vatican... very stange....

Watch this video! It is about the Pineal gland and this DMT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpvMW2wVc0&feature=related

Here is an interesting film about 2012 Enigma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBwe9-f_5UY&NR=1

JB

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Mon 09/08/08 01:53 PM


nah it's not legal here....its actually a pretty illegal substance now so it's not all that easy to get


The body produces it from the pineal gland? That is very interesting. That is said to be "the seat of soul" or the third eye and I think is looks like a pine comb.

A statue of a pine cone in the Vatican, symbol of the pineal gland, found in many ancient cultures, from the video of David Wilcock

Strange that this symbol is a statue in the Vatican... very stange....

Watch this video! It is about the Pineal gland and this DMT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpvMW2wVc0&feature=related

Here is an interesting film about 2012 Enigma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBwe9-f_5UY&NR=1

JB


hmmm? very interesting.