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Topic: Palin: wrong woman, wrong message
TJN's photo
Sat 09/06/08 08:39 AM


They all have speech writers.


Way to point out the obvious. :wink:
it was just an answer to moondark who said they put the words in her mouth

no photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:10 AM

stopped reading after you called people idiots.
cuz they dont agree with u.


u lose crediablity




you must have been reading someone elses postslaugh ...dont see where the poster you are referring to called anyone an "idiot"...spock

Dragoness's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:22 AM

Neat...

So we have some people who buy the lies...shh check the facts...

She was for the bridge to no where before she was against it...she was against earmarks before she was a mayor and hired a lobbyist to secure them for her city...she is for abstinence but has a pregnant teen daughter, she sold the former (Republican) governors plane on Ebay except she didn't cause it never sold there,she gave tax money back to Alaskans (so did the Republican governor who bought the plane) she is for family values but is named as the other woman in a divorce filing?

Then we can line up some other people who vote based on who is hot...

Next in line...women who lose their minds and vote for a women just because she is a woman.

Don't buy this token woman horse****!

If you are tempted sit down and think again..




This woman sure has got it, yay!!!! Tell em Lyn:wink: laugh flowerforyou

Zapchaser's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:27 AM

I just stepped in something.....wait, was that a pile of "Oh Please......."

Thirty years ago, Sarah Palin was what "in the day" feminism was all about creating. The champion of the movement, Gloria Steinem argued that a woman should be able to have both--a career (and by career she did not mean simply putting a man's food on the table at a specified nightly time) but in fact a "power" career. Empowerment was about being able to have kids and have a the career and the only that that has the almost irrelevant Ms. Steinem bothered is that this particular woman (Mrs. Palin) carries and (R) after her name.

It was Gloria and her work of yesteryear that has produced women like Sarah Palin. In fact, Gloria is right when she asserts that Palin is the wrong woman with the wrong message in that the right woman (Senator Clinton) has been cast to the side, the bitter little cheerleader for Mr. Obama.

Women like Gov. Palin drive women like Ms. Steinem crazy because Palin does not consider herself a victim of anything or anyone. That is, she has earned what she has. But she failed to pay the toll that fringe feminism instituted long ago. Palin isn't a bitter angry victim that felt like she had to fight the establishment in order to flip it the bird. She's not run by the shrill likes of Ms. Steinem and THAT is why she's the wrong woman.

Drew

drinker BINGO!drinker You are on it Drew!

Dragoness's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:38 AM
Speaking of her speech writers, they must have struggled with her and her attributes because her speech was not inspiring in the least.

And, of course, they had to go around her many many faults. She has no qualifications and her conservativism is actually dangerous to the progress women have made in this country.

I will say again, the combination of McCain and Palin, only those who will not seat a black in the presidential office will have them, they are not good for this country.

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Sat 09/06/08 12:40 PM




I just stepped in something.....wait, was that a pile of "Oh Please......."

Thirty years ago, Sarah Palin was what "in the day" feminism was all about creating. The champion of the movement, Gloria Steinem argued that a woman should be able to have both--a career (and by career she did not mean simply putting a man's food on the table at a specified nightly time) but in fact a "power" career. Empowerment was about being able to have kids and have a the career and the only that that has the almost irrelevant Ms. Steinem bothered is that this particular woman (Mrs. Palin) carries and (R) after her name.

It was Gloria and her work of yesteryear that has produced women like Sarah Palin. In fact, Gloria is right when she asserts that Palin is the wrong woman with the wrong message in that the right woman (Senator Clinton) has been cast to the side, the bitter little cheerleader for Mr. Obama.

Women like Gov. Palin drive women like Ms. Steinem crazy because Palin does not consider herself a victim of anything or anyone. That is, she has earned what she has. But she failed to pay the toll that fringe feminism instituted long ago. Palin isn't a bitter angry victim that felt like she had to fight the establishment in order to flip it the bird. She's not run by the shrill likes of Ms. Steinem and THAT is why she's the wrong woman.

Drew


I disagree. She isn't what the feminist movement is about. But NOT because she isn't bitter. Sure, there are a lot of feminists out there that are. But even more that are not.

She is a 'safe' female choice for republicans because she promotes the status quo. She is a female that got into a 'traditionally' male field but she doesn't threaten the patriarchal system. She doesn't do anything to threaten the male ego. She doesn't challenged male power over the female identity and female body in any way.

She bases her authority and experience on "motherhood". I'm tough because I had to learn how to deal with hockey mom's. I know how to run things on the local level and state level because I can run a home.

She is the type of women many women hate most. She is the type of woman who gets into a position of authority so she can support her platform of pushing other women back into the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.




Uh huh. She wants to push other women back into the kitchen huh? Well my friend, let me ask you this. Being that she DID become a Senator in a male dominated world, and she happens to be a woman who BELIEVES in CONSERVATIVE values...this is why you say that?

I mean, I know plenty of conservative women, who are successful, career oriented ladies that do not think women are supposed to be in the kitchen. They might be against abortion, or gay rights, or whatever. But they believe that women can do good in this world.

This is just so damn funny to me. I mean, three weeks ago, none of you knew about Palin. Now she is in the limelight, and now you wanna persecute her for being (a) woman, (b) conservative and (c) A FREAKING REPUBLICAN. If she were a Democrat, all of you would be defending her and her daughter right now, and don't even say you wouldn't.


1. I didn't see anyone persecute her for being a woman. I have no problems with women in politics. Just problems with the kinda of political female that Palin's speach writers are portraying her as. And if she agrees with the people who are putting the words in her mouth, since she is going with those speaches, then I'm assuming it must be a portrayal that does reflect her beliefs.

2. Okay, that kind of ultra-conservativism does bother me. And I don't like it. I'll own that charge, but I have that right. It seems that it is okay for people to totally bash on liberals, but oh no, it is a horrible deed to say anything against the super conservative.

3. Although I'm planning to change parties before the election, I happen to be currently registered and a Republican and have been my entire voting life. I vote issues, not parties. This is the election that is finally making me willing to switch parties.


Well, I don't like how liberals say that all conservatives are just so closed minded, cause while some are, their are some who aren't. And in today's America, I say I am Republican, I get ridiculed for supporting Bush.

The great thing about our country is that we do have choice. We have the right to choose what we believe, who we believe, and etc. But it does seem to me that if you are Republican, then you get pidgeonholed into being some sort of neo-nazi type.

Anyways, I feel more comfortable with Palin being with McCain than I do Biden being with Obama.

And, I disagree with you Dragoness. Palin did alot better with her speech than Biden did with his. Dude is dull. At least Palin has passion. Oh, and about Palin's faults. Obama can't even do an interview and be forthright at all. Anderson Cooper owned his ass after that reverened crap came out in the open. How many times did Obama dance around that issue?

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Sun 09/07/08 01:21 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 09/07/08 01:24 AM


I just stepped in something.....wait, was that a pile of "Oh Please......."

Thirty years ago, Sarah Palin was what "in the day" feminism was all about creating. The champion of the movement, Gloria Steinem argued that a woman should be able to have both--a career (and by career she did not mean simply putting a man's food on the table at a specified nightly time) but in fact a "power" career. Empowerment was about being able to have kids and have a the career and the only that that has the almost irrelevant Ms. Steinem bothered is that this particular woman (Mrs. Palin) carries and (R) after her name.

It was Gloria and her work of yesteryear that has produced women like Sarah Palin. In fact, Gloria is right when she asserts that Palin is the wrong woman with the wrong message in that the right woman (Senator Clinton) has been cast to the side, the bitter little cheerleader for Mr. Obama.

Women like Gov. Palin drive women like Ms. Steinem crazy because Palin does not consider herself a victim of anything or anyone. That is, she has earned what she has. But she failed to pay the toll that fringe feminism instituted long ago. Palin isn't a bitter angry victim that felt like she had to fight the establishment in order to flip it the bird. She's not run by the shrill likes of Ms. Steinem and THAT is why she's the wrong woman.

Drew



She is the type of women many women hate most. She is the type of woman who gets into a position of authority so she can support her platform of pushing other women back into the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.




No...I think the National Org of LIBERAL Women are trying to silence women who don't support their smallminded views. That is NO "CHOICE!" Like their attacks on Palin.

Barefoot & pregnant? I hardly think conservative women want that or they wouldn't be pushing abstinence & having kids when you're done with school & get married & can SUPPORT them.

Cali66's photo
Sun 09/07/08 03:06 AM
Abstinence does not work now does it? Education does now doesn't it.

How many teenagers do you know think clearly.
Until the age of 25 our frontal lobes are not developed fully. That is our 'rational thinking' part of our brain. Our impulse center.
If teenagers are not armed with knowledge, and just preached to it does no good when the time comes when they are impulsive.

www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=news-in-rev/teen-frontal


I feel really bad for teenagers that have to live in situations where parents refuse to be logical. Regardless of where you stand- you're not promoting sex by educating your teenagers, you are being smart.
Teenagers are not equipped mentally to meet every challenge all the time. It is playing with your kids futures because you refuse to have a conversation.
And that is why her daughter is pregnant. And Alaska has such a high rate of STD's.


Sure never heard Mrs. Palin mention anything bout this health concern.
Current Issues and Trends
In 2006 due to an outbreak among
homeless people in Anchorage. Of particular concern are two groups, Alaska Natives
and Asian people, who have rates of TB that are up to five times greater than the state
average. These groups represent only 17% and 4% of the total population, respectively,
but suffer 75-85% of the burden of this disease. Because many people in Alaska are
infected with the TB germ (have latent TB diagnosed by a positive TB skin test), it is
very likely that sporadic outbreaks will occur.
People who have been in contact with each case of TB are evaluated for infection and
disease due to TB. The investigation of contacts is a critical part of TB control, and is
not directly reflected in this graph. There are, on average, 16 contacts identified for each
person with TB. In addition, between 600 and 800 people are found to have latent TB
infection each year in Alaska and are started on treatment to prevent TB disease.

Data Limitations
TB reporting is part of a passive disease surveillance system. It is possible that cases
went unreported, but this is highly unlikely for the following reasons: 1) most providers,
public and private, utilize the State Public Health Laboratory for TB cultures; 2) the
State provides TB medications free of charge; and 3) a 2001 pilot study of pharmacies
dispensing TB meds failed to find additional cases.
Current Issues and Trends
Rates of chlamydia infection have risen steadily in Alaska and the U.S. in recent years,
and Alaska’s rate has been nearly twice the U.S. rate since 2002
Gonorrhea we fare a little higher check out the site..
But know I checked out U.S. site and Alaska and it was MUCH harder to navigate through Alaska's sites. They had many dead links as well. The links to teen pregnancies and abortions was dead.
:/

But there are more post neonatal deaths in Alaska..

More people in Alaska reporting they don't get health care...
by almost 4%

www.hss.state.ak.us/dph/infocenter/pubs/healthStatus97-06.pdf





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I work in healthcare and TB is a serious issue. Not sure what is going on here.

Never once heard a healthcare address about a concern over TB though.
:/


t22learner's photo
Sun 09/07/08 05:04 AM

National Org of LIBERAL Women

From the mouth of Sean Hannity to us...

Zapchaser's photo
Sun 09/07/08 08:47 AM


I love liberal propaganda.


I don't call myself liberal so I guess you must be referring to other posters.

A person doesn't have to call herself/himself anything when they are hugging the billboard of liberalism. Self explanatory. :wink:

t22learner's photo
Sun 09/07/08 08:49 AM

the billboard of liberalism

Is that in Hollywood or Times Square?

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