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Topic: Boxing Vs MMA
BrandonJItaliano's photo
Thu 09/04/08 10:58 PM
Which do you favor and why? I personally think Boxing is by far a more talented sport. It has a rich tradition and they dont call it the "Sweet Science" for nothing!! It takes both brains and brawn to get in the ring. I personally dont c that with MMA, it looks like a drunken bar room brawl in a cage or maybe human **** fighting.


Whos gonna be remembered longer? The Greatest Boxer that ever lived (in my opinion Muhammad Ali) or the Greatest MMAr (in my opinion Royce Gracie)?

neversurrender6's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:05 PM
laugh

lgo's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:11 PM
I like boxing.. I think your right about Ali.

msmyka's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:12 PM
Edited by msmyka on Thu 09/04/08 11:12 PM
Do you not see merit in learning many different desciplines as opposed to just one? That's like saying someone who runs a marathon is more talented then someone who competes in the iron man contest... theres so much more talent in MMA as far as the diversity of the sport is concerned.

ChefBadger's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:18 PM
Unless boxing gets more organized as a sport...its f*cked.

MMA has been gaining on it for years.

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:21 PM
I aggree, boxing hasnt had a star since the dimise of Mike Tyson. It really hasnt been the same since the Mobb left hehe. Don King has been horrible for the sport i think.



Mama, A jack of all trades is no match for a Master Craftsman



JayGar's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:31 PM
Edited by JayGar on Thu 09/04/08 11:34 PM
As a kid, boxing was the most exciting sport for me. But as time has gone on, politics have come into play and fighters duck each other more than ever.

I couldn't even tell you who the Heavyweight champion of the world is in boxing. Unless you're a big name fighter like De La Hoya, Cotto or Mayweather, people don't care and it's a shame for a sport that has so much history.

It's sad cuz boxing used to be king.

msmyka's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:31 PM
I would put my money on an MMA fighter VS a Boxer any day!

ChefBadger's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:34 PM
If Mayweather went into an MMA match and tried to rely on his boxing skills alone, he would get folded up like a love letter in the first round. Done and done.

msmyka's photo
Thu 09/04/08 11:35 PM
WORD drinks

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Fri 09/05/08 12:02 AM
Same goes for an MMAr in the ring. Put some gloves on Anderson Silva and put him in the ring with Andre Berto and see what happens! Even the best MMArs are extremly rigid on there feet, that will get u killed in the ring; Ask Benny "the Kid" Peret! Ask Duk Koo Kim!


Better yet Anderson Silva and one of my personal favorites, Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini (in his younger days of course) in the boxing ring!! Now that would be alot of fun

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Fri 09/05/08 12:06 AM
Im soory to say; Floyd "Fake Money" Mayweather was one of the worst things to happen to the sport of boxing in the last 10 years!! He disgraced the sport with his "just in it for the money" personna and his horrible "punch me in the shoulder" style. I wish he would have been born about 20 years earlier; Sugar Ray Leonard would have distroyed him; and that way we would have never had to see him again

ChefBadger's photo
Fri 09/05/08 12:09 AM
Edited by ChefBadger on Fri 09/05/08 12:10 AM
Fair enough but the you're talking about restricting a fighter as opposed to un-restricting a fighter. MMA's appeal to me is that it requires a fighter to be well rounded and not just rely on punches alone. I also enjoy boxing so I definitely appreciate the sweet science of it but having personally trained in MMA for years I can tell you, it takes just as much strategy and knowledge.
When a fight goes to the ground it is very much a chess match. And raw power and endurance alone will always be trumped by skill and intelligence.


edit: Sugar Ray pounding the ego out of Mayweather will always be on my top ten "dream matchups".

Sluggo's photo
Fri 09/05/08 01:22 AM

I aggree, boxing hasnt had a star since the dimise of Mike Tyson. It really hasnt been the same since the Mobb left hehe. Don King has been horrible for the sport i think.

Mama, A jack of all trades is no match for a Master Craftsman


THIS is exactly why Boxing is a Joke! Tyson spent a career fighting Tomato Cans and half the people actually bought that he was a legit Champion. He spent the height of his career ducking Holyfield (for obvious reasons as you all saw when they did finally fight for real: Most don't know that Holyfield kicked his butt when they were both Golden Gloves fighters sparing in the same gym, Holyfield was a Cruiser Weight then too). Then later Tyson turned down $50,000,000 to step in the ring with Foreman (A 50 year old man). LoL... I still remember Foreman's quote "How's can the worlds most feared man be afraid to fight a 50 year old man" :laughing: laugh :laughing: I challenge everyone to name THREE good fighters Tyson beat (If you can even name three of the Tomato Cans)...

Boxing hasn't been the same since Cassius Marcellus Clay was fighting! Stick a Fork in it, It's Done!!!!

stunt_614's photo
Fri 09/05/08 10:16 AM
Edited by stunt_614 on Fri 09/05/08 11:13 AM
ok boxing is a skill, but it is a continueing 1 aspect for 12 rounds, no worrys of legs, knees, takedowns, elbows, flying armbars lol, all you focus on is the hands of your opponent that may be why "BrandonJitaliano" u think it looks like a bar fight, its hard to stay composed and relaxed and smooth when u throw so manny different attacks at you, you have to be ready for it all and if not your out. boxing used to be good but now its going down the hole, don king is like dana white times 10 for the sport of boxing. and as far as anderson silva goes the guy is quick and may do decent against a boxer, look at chuck he was a boxer as well as kick boxer in the art of Kimpo, and i beleave he could take out half the hw in boxing these days so u cant tell me MMA has no skill or less skill then boxing.

look at vitor belfot in his debut boxing match , cant tell me mma fighters would get killed with there ridged style in the ring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDiPghk6Y8E


Vitor in the UFC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j--gzYpGpnw

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Fri 09/05/08 12:17 PM
There is no ellquence to it, no Grace. It looks like its 2 caged people, trying to hurt each other. Its an Ugly Sport, Estheticly. To me, it looks like when to Chimpanzees in the zoo get pissed at each other and start going at it.

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Fri 09/05/08 12:29 PM
Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Fri 09/05/08 12:32 PM
Trevor Berbick (ended the greatest, Muhammad Alis carrer) Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, Razor Rud****, Carl "the Truth" Williams, Frank Bruno, Pinklon Thomas, Bruce Seldon, Henry Tillman,Tony Tubbs, Terrel Biggs.....Thats more than 3...I WIN



Mike Tyson had the best timing the heavyweights had ever seen...in that aspect even better than Ali's and he could hit alot harder than Muhammad. It was Ali's belief in the idea "Im gonna hit u and ure not gonna hit me" is what made him Great!! There had never been a heavyweight move like that, and we will prob never see that ever again. But Tyson's style never has longevity and he is not stable mentally, so that is why we say such a fast Burnout

I wouldnt get in the ring with Evander either. Hes a dirty fighter and always has been. He uses his head (littlerly) more than his Gloves!! Remember the Hasim Rachman/Evander fight? Ewwwww hehe

JayGar's photo
Fri 09/05/08 02:56 PM
Most Boxing enthusiasts are so bitter over the success that MMA is recieving and rightfully so, I mean I don't recall a sport that at one point WAS the biggest money-draw for so long that now it has been relegated to 2 maybe 3 good ppv's a year. Whereas in MMA is putting out great tv/ppv cards EVERY MONTH you 4sure get your money's worth.

At least when you watch a UFC/EliteXC/DREAM/Affliction card, there is going to be atleast 4 or 5 fights on that card with fighters you've atleast heard of. And since most MMA Promotions purchase 3hours of ppv time, they will see to it that they fill those 3 hours with fights. I can recall so many times my father bought a Tyson fight that didn't go past the 1st round that he boycotted purchasing a ppv with him in it, wasn't worth it.

You go and buy the upcoming De La Hoya Vs. Pacman ppv, who's going to be on that undercard? Is that really worth $49.95?

Hey Brandon... you really consider Trevor Berbick TYRELL Biggs and Carl "The TOOTH" Williams worthy heavyweights that Tyson beat? Berbick beat Ali when Ali should've retired before they fought. And Carl "The TOOTH" Williams? LMAO!!! That's for another post to discuss, bro.


BrandonJItaliano's photo
Fri 09/05/08 06:45 PM
Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Fri 09/05/08 06:56 PM
Hahah, the tooth, Jamie Foxx was awesome lol. I know the politics of Boxing has nearly destroyed it. Its not the success at all of MMA, MMA has a good marketing director; You could sell dog poop if someone wanted to buy it.

I mean the Big Mouth Billy Bass sold well there for a while! Ill bet to alot of those MMA supporters! Social Marketing maybe?


All im sayin is that Great Boxers are the Master Craftsman of combative sports to where MMArs are the Jack of all trade Handyman u c fixin the Icee machine at 7-11.


MMA will never hold the place in history that Boxing has, and will hold again

Cotto a big name fighter? Margarito made him look horrible. Cotto WAS just another Bob Arum creation



willfen's photo
Fri 09/05/08 07:14 PM
We can all agree that boxing was once a great sport with its rich traditions and great champions from John L Sullivan to Sugar Ray Leonard to Mike Tyson.

But the fact remains that boxing is a dying sport and a Heavyweight title fight is not the must-see event it once was. Most people couldn't tell you who the champions are of the top four divisions - WBA, WBC, WBO, and IBF.

It is not fair to compare the merits of which is better. Boxers may be the master craftsman of their sport, but its pretty much a given that ANY boxer in their prime would get beat down by the AVERAGE MMA fighter, because MMA is multi-dimensional.

Back in the day, MMA fighters were like drunken cage brawlers because they were originally just tough-man competitions. Over the past couple of decades, they have become more disciplined and organized, they have a sanctioning body now, and MMA is now a specific martial arts form with schools in just about every state.

In fact, boxing is far more dangerous than MMA. How? Consider this: An MMA fighter gets knocked out and the fight is over, end of story, risk of injury becomes nonexistent. A boxer gets knocked down, gets a standing eight count and is allowed to continue to be punished. This has resulted in numerous in-ring deaths as the history of boxing has shown (remember Boom Boom Mancini?)

In short, boxing has lost much of its luster and now MMA is becoming the big money making draw with its stars and champs reaching celebrity status and signing six to seven-figure contracts.

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