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Let me begin by saying that I'm not a dedicated student to the bible or even that much into religion. I'd just like to get people's opinions or their views on sex before marriage as it relates to religion. Is there a verse in the bible that states you'll be cursed for doing it unless you're married? I already know the guys answer to this - just like to get the female perspective on the issue.
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i dont see a problem in it, and i`ll tell you why...
you dont need a piece of paper to be commited to each other and have sex. the bible was written by man (just my opinion) and there is diffrent versions of it, therefore i personaly wouldnt use it as my life manual. the world as so many diffrent beliefs and some worship diffrent gods and in some countries its ok to have 12 to a 100 wives not one other creature on this earth has to be married to use there reproductive systems, so why should we? i`m not making sence so i`m just going to shut up now...lol |
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Edited by
iceprincess
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Wed 09/03/08 12:22 PM
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I don't belive so.............marriage is traditionaly defined as:"(1): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2): the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage> b: the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c: the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage
2: an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities 3: an intimate or close union" per websters dictionary So if your in fear that you may be cursed pick your definition. Personally i think I'll go with #3 |
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i believe that sex before marriage is fine but dont go out trying to be a whore or a pimp. trying to screw everyone out there. and if someone decides on sex before marriage just be sure to use protection the consequences if you dont take a precautions especially with someone you just met can be devestating
you know what im sayin |
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Edited by
SkyHook5652
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Wed 09/03/08 02:02 PM
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My view? I would not marry a woman that I had never had sex with.
edit: And I personally have never met a woman who didn't feel the same way. |
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Let me begin by saying that I'm not a dedicated student to the bible or even that much into religion. I'd just like to get people's opinions or their views on sex before marriage as it relates to religion. Is there a verse in the bible that states you'll be cursed for doing it unless you're married? I already know the guys answer to this - just like to get the female perspective on the issue. Sex before marriage is called FORNICATION and it is sin. |
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all of my sex has been before marriage....seeing how im not married yet
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1 Corinthians 6:[18] Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body.
[19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Galatians 5[19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 7[1] Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. [3] Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. [4] The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Need more.....??? |
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alright debbie downer......
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alright debbie downer...... he asked a question...I answered You have a problem with the answer ... take it up with God. |
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Edited by
cottonelle
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Wed 09/03/08 05:10 PM
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1 Corinthians 6:[18] Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body. [19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Galatians 5[19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 7[1] Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. [3] Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. [4] The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Need more.....??? does that mean my dog buster is in hell now? because when he was alive he fornicated with every b!tch in the neighborhood |
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Edited by
iceprincess
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Wed 09/03/08 06:47 PM
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1 Corinthians 6:[18] Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body. [19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Galatians 5[19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 7[1] Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. [3] Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. [4] The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Need more.....??? Actually I do define "wife" and define "husband" what is the exact definition of "marriage"?According to websters' marriage can be defined as an "intimate or close union". |
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1 Corinthians 6:[18] Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body. [19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Galatians 5[19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 7[1] Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. [3] Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. [4] The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Need more.....??? Actually I do define "wife" and define "husband" what is the exact definition of "marriage"?According to websters' marriage can be defined as an "intimate or close union". Do we have to look at what the Bible says about marriage now....just another example of people trying to get around the Word of God... |
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Edited by
iceprincess
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Wed 09/03/08 07:03 PM
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1 Corinthians 6:[18] Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body. [19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Galatians 5[19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, [20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, [21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 7[1] Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. [3] Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. [4] The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. Need more.....??? Actually I do define "wife" and define "husband" what is the exact definition of "marriage"?According to websters' marriage can be defined as an "intimate or close union". Do we have to look at what the Bible says about marriage now....just another example of people trying to get around the Word of God... Yes we do........I was raised in a religious household......Cultish in some ways looking back.......and I myself am Baptist and infrequently practice religiosity. However interpretation is everything.By definition Marriage is ambiquious as are the words "husband" and "wife" so if we are going to use the status of "married" or "un-married" to determine whether sex is permitted or barred i'd like to know which definition you follow |
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Edited by
Redykeulous
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Wed 09/03/08 07:39 PM
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Well, if one is a fundamentalist and takes the bible as the inerrent word of God, then it says "be fruitful and multiply". That can only mean one thing - Have lots of sex.
Now it's doesn't say get married and be fruitful and it doesn't say being married entitles one to any other benefits except for sex. The bad news is that it does say "and multiply" so no fair using birth control. OK - I know, that's so old Catholic! Actually the point is - why is sex so pleasurable, even so forceful we call it a drive, if we were meant to try so had to control it? Consider the fact that our sexuality, our very sex drive is a product of the very nature of our human physiology. So if you beleive this was the way we were created, then how can you believe we were not meant to have and enjoy having sex WITHOUT CONDITIONS. Oh ok, so maybe doing it in public is not so good and definately consenting adults should also be part of the equation, but that just makes sense to a civil and social being. So forget the fruitful - BE SEXUAL AND MULTIPLY THY PLEASURE. |
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So forget the fruitful - BE SEXUAL AND MULTIPLY THY PLEASURE. I love it!!! 
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BTW......after much research the only definition of "marriage " i can find in the bible is "a man shall leave his father and mother and shall unite with a woman and two shall become one" bear in mind i am praphrasing.
There is no time frame listed to say how long this union shall last. So by definition there is no such thing as sex outside of marriage unless of course your keeping his parents in the room.....LOL |
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Edited by
Belushi
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Wed 09/03/08 08:56 PM
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alright debbie downer...... he asked a question...I answered You have a problem with the answer ... take it up with God. Out of interest, do you stone your children when they are unruly? If not, why not? It says you have ot in the bible. Thats the word of god too. |
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from my response on the s&d virgin thread...
since virginity is defined by lack of intercourse, oral sex won't deflower you in that sense, anal either, or masturbation, even with vibrators - even with huge vibrating sliding action rotating titans! 
it just goes to show that virginity as defined as lack of intercourse really does not preclude a very active sex life...it has some meaning still, yet... it certainly is not a thing of such monumental importance oral sex is sex - and you have to watch out for stds too and anal, masturbation is sex, grinding is sex, and huge rotating vibrating two-ways are most definitely sex!! loving someone is different. and really it is all about loving the right person. you know what i mean? so god didn't make sex dirty or forgiven but did make sex in a loving relationship holy.
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Edited by
Eljay
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Wed 09/03/08 09:26 PM
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BTW......after much research the only definition of "marriage " i can find in the bible is "a man shall leave his father and mother and shall unite with a woman and two shall become one" bear in mind i am praphrasing. There is no time frame listed to say how long this union shall last. So by definition there is no such thing as sex outside of marriage unless of course your keeping his parents in the room.....LOL Ice-P Actually - you are right on point. The OP's original question was refering to marriage and the bible (asking if something is a sin puts us into this realm) - so Websters definition (one that changes with current norms) would not surfice to determine the biblical perspective. But your statement here is correct. Biblically - sex before "marriage" - IS marriage. It is fornication when the sex is without any intent of commitment. It is a matter of the heart, as opposed to ceremony. Though we see later in the N.T. that Jesus attends a wedding (thus confiming that marriage has turned into ceremony by the first century) He reminds the Pharasee's that they do not understand the original intent of marriage, when he is pressed with a question about divorce. Throughout time - the idea of "a man shall leave his mother and father - etc" has been a continual source of rebellion for man, as he has ventured off into the sexual mores that were anything but what God had intended. This "rebellion" continues today. |
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