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catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 10:31 PM
wasnt the wrold trade center bombed once before?? before 911 who was the group behind this?? yes one would think that would have been fair warning. I dont get it catty thats why I have so many problems with 911. All that money they spend on spy satalites that can tap phones etc etc and a band of boxcutter weilding illiterate arabs managed to out wit us, fly and navigate a jumbo jet on target and create all these wars, it just doesnt make any sence at all. a agree it makes no sense. why anyone would have wanted to attack america. and why that the UN does not care about what america is enduring right now. here and overseas. why has the rest of the world kinda failed to even care at all?? did we imagine a terrorist attack?? did we?? maybe we have went about defending ourselves in the wrong way, idk... i actually think we should use greater force and weed more terrorists out. why does the UN not seem to care at all?? what have they done but issue silly reports???

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 10:33 PM
On July 21, 2001 [less than two months prior to 911] the Iraqi state-controlled newspaper "Al-Nasiriya" predicted that bin Laden would attack the U.S. "with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House." The same state-approved column also insisted that bin Laden "will strike America on the arm that is already hurting," and that the U.S. "will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs" - an apparent reference to the Sinatra classic, "New York, New York." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1106657/posts

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 10:36 PM
In March 2008 the Pentagon declassified results of their investigation into captured Iraqi documents. The report stated, "While these documents do not reveal direct coordination and assistance between the Saddam regime and the al Qaeda network, they do indicate that Saddam was willing to use, albeit cautiously, operatives affiliated with al Qaeda as long as Saddam could have these terrorist–operatives monitored closely. Because Saddam’s security organizations and Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network operated with similar aims (at least in the short term), considerable overlap was inevitable when monitoring, contacting, financing, and training the same outside groups. This created both the appearance of and, in some ways, a “de facto” link between the organizations. At times, these organizations would work together in pursuit of shared goals but still maintain their autonomy and independence because of innate caution and mutual distrust." http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/889pvpxc.asp?pg=1

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 08/31/08 10:40 PM
wasnt the wrold trade center bombed once before?? before 911 who was the group behind this?? yes one would think that would have been fair warning. I dont get it catty thats why I have so many problems with 911. All that money they spend on spy satalites that can tap phones etc etc and a band of boxcutter weilding illiterate arabs managed to out wit us, fly and navigate a jumbo jet on target and create all these wars, it just doesnt make any sence at all. a agree it makes no sense. why anyone would have wanted to attack america. and why that the UN does not care about what america is enduring right now. here and overseas. why has the rest of the world kinda failed to even care at all?? did we imagine a terrorist attack?? did we?? maybe we have went about defending ourselves in the wrong way, idk... i actually think we should use greater force and weed more terrorists out. why does the UN not seem to care at all?? what have they done but issue silly reports??? America has run against the UN for many years we only use them to our advantage and ignore them when we are wrong. Its easy for america to win a military war but imposible to win the peace at gun point.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 08/31/08 10:41 PM
In March 2008 the Pentagon declassified results of their investigation into captured Iraqi documents. The report stated, "While these documents do not reveal direct coordination and assistance between the Saddam regime and the al Qaeda network, they do indicate that Saddam was willing to use, albeit cautiously, operatives affiliated with al Qaeda as long as Saddam could have these terrorist–operatives monitored closely. Because Saddam’s security organizations and Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network operated with similar aims (at least in the short term), considerable overlap was inevitable when monitoring, contacting, financing, and training the same outside groups. This created both the appearance of and, in some ways, a “de facto” link between the organizations. At times, these organizations would work together in pursuit of shared goals but still maintain their autonomy and independence because of innate caution and mutual distrust." http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/889pvpxc.asp?pg=1 Al qaida is religouse and viewed saddam and his bathist government as an enemy I do not care what the weekly standerd says there is no credible proof of this.

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 10:45 PM
wasnt the wrold trade center bombed once before?? before 911 who was the group behind this?? did this happen prior to kuwait??

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 10:47 PM
In March 2008 the Pentagon declassified results of their investigation into captured Iraqi documents. The report stated, "While these documents do not reveal direct coordination and assistance between the Saddam regime and the al Qaeda network, they do indicate that Saddam was willing to use, albeit cautiously, operatives affiliated with al Qaeda as long as Saddam could have these terrorist–operatives monitored closely. Because Saddam’s security organizations and Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network operated with similar aims (at least in the short term), considerable overlap was inevitable when monitoring, contacting, financing, and training the same outside groups. This created both the appearance of and, in some ways, a “de facto” link between the organizations. At times, these organizations would work together in pursuit of shared goals but still maintain their autonomy and independence because of innate caution and mutual distrust." http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/889pvpxc.asp?pg=1 Al qaida is religouse and viewed saddam and his bathist government as an enemy I do not care what the weekly standerd says there is no credible proof of this. no..no proof but it does make some sense I think. at perhaps how middle eastern leaders operate.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 08/31/08 10:48 PM
Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations were made by some U.S. Government officials who claimed that a highly secretive relationship existed between former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the radical Islamist militant organization Al-Qaeda from 1992 to 2003, specifically through a series of meetings reportedly involving the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS).[1] In the lead up to the Iraq War, U.S. President George W. Bush alleged that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and militant group al-Qaeda might conspire to launch terrorist attacks on the United States,[2] basing the administration's rationale for war, in part, on this allegation and others. The consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship, and that consensus is backed up by reports from the independent 9/11 Commission, declassified Defense Department reports[3] as well as by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, whose 2006 report of Phase II of its investigation into prewar intelligence reports concluded that there was no evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.[4] Critics of the Bush Administration have said Bush was intentionally building a case for war with Iraq without regard to factual evidence. On April 29, 2007, former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet said on 60 Minutes, "We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 10:50 PM
Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations were made by some U.S. Government officials who claimed that a highly secretive relationship existed between former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the radical Islamist militant organization Al-Qaeda from 1992 to 2003, specifically through a series of meetings reportedly involving the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS).[1] In the lead up to the Iraq War, U.S. President George W. Bush alleged that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and militant group al-Qaeda might conspire to launch terrorist attacks on the United States,[2] basing the administration's rationale for war, in part, on this allegation and others. The consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship, and that consensus is backed up by reports from the independent 9/11 Commission, declassified Defense Department reports[3] as well as by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, whose 2006 report of Phase II of its investigation into prewar intelligence reports concluded that there was no evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.[4] Critics of the Bush Administration have said Bush was intentionally building a case for war with Iraq without regard to factual evidence. On April 29, 2007, former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet said on 60 Minutes, "We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda no we couldnt verify it..but we could not disprove it either. esepcially given the past years since desert storm.

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 10:53 PM
Beginning a week after the Iraqi takeover of Kuwait and continuing for several months, a large international force gathered in Saudi Arabia. The United States sent more than 400,000 troops, and more than 200,000 additional troops came from Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, France, Kuwait, Egypt, Syria, Senegal, Niger, Morocco, Bangladesh, Pakistan, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman, and Bahrain. Other countries contributed ships, air forces, and medical units, including Canada, Italy, Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Greece, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Czechoslovakia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Poland, and South Korea. Still other countries made other contributions: Turkey allowed air bases on its territory to be used by coalition planes, and Japan and Germany gave financial support. The initial goal of the force was to prevent further Iraqi action, but most countries were aware the force might ultimately be used to drive Iraq from Kuwait. http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761551555/Persian_Gulf_War.html american and others invaded without being first attacked.

kerbear73 Joined Wed 01/02/08 Posts: 3884	Sun 08/31/08 10:58 PM
wasnt the wrold trade center bombed once before?? before 911 who was the group behind this?? did this happen prior to kuwait?? It was bombed while the Righteous cigar loving Bill Clinton was in Office, Way after Kuwait. and Osama was behind it

kerbear73 Joined Wed 01/02/08 Posts: 3884	Sun 08/31/08 11:01 PM
AS I have posted before, bill clinton believed that Saddam had weapons of Mass destruction, so if clinton believed it and Bush believed it, Does that make Clinton a liar before Bush was in the white house in your way of thinking?

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 08/31/08 11:06 PM
AS I have posted before, bill clinton believed that Saddam had weapons of Mass destruction, so if clinton believed it and Bush believed it, Does that make Clinton a liar before Bush was in the white house in your way of thinking? Wmds we sold to Iraq by the US when they were at war with Iran so of course they had them at one time. funny how they never found them and if wmds were the fuze to light a war why dont we attack the other 50 or so countries that have them includeing Korea? we were haveing a reasonable discussion untill......

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 08/31/08 11:13 PM
Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations were made by some U.S. Government officials who claimed that a highly secretive relationship existed between former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the radical Islamist militant organization Al-Qaeda from 1992 to 2003, specifically through a series of meetings reportedly involving the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS).[1] In the lead up to the Iraq War, U.S. President George W. Bush alleged that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and militant group al-Qaeda might conspire to launch terrorist attacks on the United States,[2] basing the administration's rationale for war, in part, on this allegation and others. The consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship, and that consensus is backed up by reports from the independent 9/11 Commission, declassified Defense Department reports[3] as well as by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, whose 2006 report of Phase II of its investigation into prewar intelligence reports concluded that there was no evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.[4] Critics of the Bush Administration have said Bush was intentionally building a case for war with Iraq without regard to factual evidence. On April 29, 2007, former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet said on 60 Minutes, "We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda no we couldnt verify it..but we could not disprove it either. esepcially given the past years since desert storm. its simple Saddam was a bathist ok Alquida is religouse and viewed saddam as an enemy of islam. good night sweet dreams

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 11:14 PM
AS I have posted before, bill clinton believed that Saddam had weapons of Mass destruction, so if clinton believed it and Bush believed it, Does that make Clinton a liar before Bush was in the white house in your way of thinking? Wmds we sold to Iraq by the US when they were at war with Iran so of course they had them at one time. funny how they never found them and if wmds were the fuze to light a war why dont we attack the other 50 or so countries that have them includeing Korea? we were haveing a reasonable discussion untill...... now dont fight. we all want the smae durn things for this country. and thinkable discussions often are helpful. between people with lotsa viewpoints.

kerbear73 Joined Wed 01/02/08 Posts: 3884	Sun 08/31/08 11:18 PM
AS I have posted before, bill clinton believed that Saddam had weapons of Mass destruction, so if clinton believed it and Bush believed it, Does that make Clinton a liar before Bush was in the white house in your way of thinking? Wmds we sold to Iraq by the US when they were at war with Iran so of course they had them at one time. funny how they never found them and if wmds were the fuze to light a war why dont we attack the other 50 or so countries that have them includeing Korea? we were haveing a reasonable discussion untill...... Funny how you blame bush when Clinton had the same views....

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Sun 08/31/08 11:18 PM
Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations were made by some U.S. Government officials who claimed that a highly secretive relationship existed between former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the radical Islamist militant organization Al-Qaeda from 1992 to 2003, specifically through a series of meetings reportedly involving the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS).[1] In the lead up to the Iraq War, U.S. President George W. Bush alleged that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and militant group al-Qaeda might conspire to launch terrorist attacks on the United States,[2] basing the administration's rationale for war, in part, on this allegation and others. The consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship, and that consensus is backed up by reports from the independent 9/11 Commission, declassified Defense Department reports[3] as well as by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, whose 2006 report of Phase II of its investigation into prewar intelligence reports concluded that there was no evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.[4] Critics of the Bush Administration have said Bush was intentionally building a case for war with Iraq without regard to factual evidence. On April 29, 2007, former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet said on 60 Minutes, "We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda no we couldnt verify it..but we could not disprove it either. esepcially given the past years since desert storm. its simple Saddam was a bathist ok Alquida is religouse and viewed saddam as an enemy of islam. good night sweet dreams and so now I wonder would osama and saddam have worked together if the both wanted the same things. and yes we KNEW saddam had weapons of mass destruction. and then he did not. WHERE did THEY GO??????

Spaceman2008 Joined Mon 01/21/08 Posts: 4416	Sun 08/31/08 11:22 PM
Leaving so soon, amigo?

kerbear73 Joined Wed 01/02/08 Posts: 3884	Sun 08/31/08 11:26 PM
Leaving so soon, amigo? He had to get out of the kitchen because it was getting too hot for him

Spaceman2008 Joined Mon 01/21/08 Posts: 4416	Sun 08/31/08 11:40 PM