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Well My Goal in Life is World Domination so 
I've thought about that...but I can't seem to find the right minions....lol |
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haha, i am canadian. a goal to me only means a puck in the net.  
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"Expectations".... 
AHEM..... standards... So....the standard is " More than you make "??? |
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I have never been very career goal oriented. If I like what I'm doing and it pays the bills then that is enough.
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Yep. So why not just say that? I mean if " have goals " actually means " have a job " then why try to dance around the question??? because you can have a meanial job that will take you no where in life and be happy, but that won't make me happy... not knocking it, but I want someone who has further plans than working at McDonalds dropping fries all day. Hmmm..well...some would consider my job " menial " since I don't make a whole lot of money compared to someone doing the same job in California ( for example ). Then again....the cost of living in Cali is a far sight higher than it is here. How many people working at McDonald's who are out of high school are actually happy to be working there? Not too many I would venture to guess. I guess what I am trying to say is....shouldn't the fact that your guy is happy, actually go a fair distance toward YOUR happiness? I like the job I am in. I have been there for 7 years now. I may have to wait another 4 or 5 years before I can get into a position there that pays more than what I make now, but I am still enjoying myself. It's not necessarily a " goal " of mine to get into a job there that makes more...mainly because with my background, money doesn't mean much of anything to me, but I know that I will be able to eventually. Does that mean that I should wait until THEN to try to find someone? Doesn't your man being happy with who he is and what he does translate into you being treated better?? Yes, his happiness is very important to me, but a 30 year old making burgers doesn't make me happy. A guy living with his parents so he can make burgers doesn't make me happy. I think there's a happy medium here, if you work a dead end job so you can continue to be lazy is not acceptable to me. If you work hard and support yourself then yes that means alot to be able to say you are happy doing it. I like to do things and go places and if I have to support a man to do it.... then I'd rather go alone. "I live for myself first and foremost; fellow adventurers are welcome along for the ride so long as they as come as sovereign equals - anyone else need not apply. Stowaways and impostors will be swiftly exposed and unceremoniously tossed overboard" |
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Yep. So why not just say that? I mean if " have goals " actually means " have a job " then why try to dance around the question??? because you can have a meanial job that will take you no where in life and be happy, but that won't make me happy... not knocking it, but I want someone who has further plans than working at McDonalds dropping fries all day. Hmmm..well...some would consider my job " menial " since I don't make a whole lot of money compared to someone doing the same job in California ( for example ). Then again....the cost of living in Cali is a far sight higher than it is here. How many people working at McDonald's who are out of high school are actually happy to be working there? Not too many I would venture to guess. I guess what I am trying to say is....shouldn't the fact that your guy is happy, actually go a fair distance toward YOUR happiness? I like the job I am in. I have been there for 7 years now. I may have to wait another 4 or 5 years before I can get into a position there that pays more than what I make now, but I am still enjoying myself. It's not necessarily a " goal " of mine to get into a job there that makes more...mainly because with my background, money doesn't mean much of anything to me, but I know that I will be able to eventually. Does that mean that I should wait until THEN to try to find someone? Doesn't your man being happy with who he is and what he does translate into you being treated better?? Yes, his happiness is very important to me, but a 30 year old making burgers doesn't make me happy. A guy living with his parents so he can make burgers doesn't make me happy. I think there's a happy medium here, if you work a dead end job so you can continue to be lazy is not acceptable to me. If you work hard and support yourself then yes that means alot to be able to say you are happy doing it. I like to do things and go places and if I have to support a man to do it.... then I'd rather go alone. "I live for myself first and foremost; fellow adventurers are welcome along for the ride so long as they as come as sovereign equals - anyone else need not apply. Stowaways and impostors will be swiftly exposed and unceremoniously tossed overboard" I can completely understand that Lily.
But like I said, I work a job that " some " would consider not much above flipping burgers. It pays well considering the area I live in and I don't work particularly hard, although my job is still rather demanding mentally. If someone I am with wants to travel...fine...I get vacation days so I can do that. I may or may not be able to foot the bill, but I definitely wouldn't have to be " supported " in that effort. My OP was just a way of trying to get some clarity on what the heck women mean when they say " must have goals " and if I should even be bothering to be here depending on the answer. |
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I can completely understand that Lily.
But like I said, I work a job that " some " would consider not much above flipping burgers. It pays well considering the area I live in and I don't work particularly hard, although my job is still rather demanding mentally. If someone I am with wants to travel...fine...I get vacation days so I can do that. I may or may not be able to foot the bill, but I definitely wouldn't have to be " supported " in that effort. My OP was just a way of trying to get some clarity on what the heck women mean when they say " must have goals " and if I should even be bothering to be here depending on the answer. I failed woman's school cuz I only expect him to pay his way and for me to pay my way... I'm very independant, I don't like to feel "taken care of" by a man.I feel that is a very controling situation and I won't let myself be in that kind of situation. If you are happy and you are paying your own way in life, most women (I think) will find that acceptable. |
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I can completely understand that Lily.
But like I said, I work a job that " some " would consider not much above flipping burgers. It pays well considering the area I live in and I don't work particularly hard, although my job is still rather demanding mentally. If someone I am with wants to travel...fine...I get vacation days so I can do that. I may or may not be able to foot the bill, but I definitely wouldn't have to be " supported " in that effort. My OP was just a way of trying to get some clarity on what the heck women mean when they say " must have goals " and if I should even be bothering to be here depending on the answer. I failed woman's school cuz I only expect him to pay his way and for me to pay my way... I'm very independant, I don't like to feel "taken care of" by a man.I feel that is a very controling situation and I won't let myself be in that kind of situation. If you are happy and you are paying your own way in life, most women (I think) will find that acceptable. Well..I wouldn't exactly go as far as insisting that it be split right down the middle, but getting a little bit of " chip in " would be fine...lol Maybe something like...I pay for the tickets and rental car and she handles the hotel or something to that effect would be good with me. I guess as long as there is equal effort if not equal money, it's fine with me. : shrugs : |
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I have never been very career goal oriented. If I like what I'm doing and it pays the bills then that is enough. I resemble that remark. Some people, when they grow up poor, want as much money as they can possibly get once they grow up. It had the opposite effect on me. As long as I have enough to pay the bills keep food in the house for me and the animals, and have a little left over to get something I want or do something I want to do....that's good enough for me. |
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Yep. So why not just say that? I mean if " have goals " actually means " have a job " then why try to dance around the question??? Why does "goals" have to mean just a job? My goals right now are to get certified as a project manager, then to go to grad school. I have a job and it's decent, though I'm not happy with decent. I want to continue to learn and move forward. Ok. But refer, in that case, to my opening post. Does that mean that since my only goal is to do what I am happy doing that I am basically not date worthy? Being comfortable with who and where I am isn't acceptable? Wouldn't a woman rather be with someone who is enjoying what they do for a living rather than someone who is completely miserable because they ( like 80% of other Americans ) hate their job?? That's good that you enjoy what you do for a living. Though, someone having goals to move up in their career aren't necessarily miserable at their jobs or hate what they do. Walk up to any 100 random strangers and do a survey on how many of them are happy with their job. I would be willing to bet that at least 80 of them aren't. Well, that's their issue if they hate their job. I don't hate mine. I actually like it. That doesn't mean that I'm content with staying where I am, doing the same thing every day, though. |
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Yep. So why not just say that? I mean if " have goals " actually means " have a job " then why try to dance around the question??? because you can have a meanial job that will take you no where in life and be happy, but that won't make me happy... not knocking it, but I want someone who has further plans than working at McDonalds dropping fries all day. Hmmm..well...some would consider my job " menial " since I don't make a whole lot of money compared to someone doing the same job in California ( for example ). Then again....the cost of living in Cali is a far sight higher than it is here. How many people working at McDonald's who are out of high school are actually happy to be working there? Not too many I would venture to guess. I guess what I am trying to say is....shouldn't the fact that your guy is happy, actually go a fair distance toward YOUR happiness? I like the job I am in. I have been there for 7 years now. I may have to wait another 4 or 5 years before I can get into a position there that pays more than what I make now, but I am still enjoying myself. It's not necessarily a " goal " of mine to get into a job there that makes more...mainly because with my background, money doesn't mean much of anything to me, but I know that I will be able to eventually. Does that mean that I should wait until THEN to try to find someone? Doesn't your man being happy with who he is and what he does translate into you being treated better?? Yes, his happiness is very important to me, but a 30 year old making burgers doesn't make me happy. A guy living with his parents so he can make burgers doesn't make me happy. I think there's a happy medium here, if you work a dead end job so you can continue to be lazy is not acceptable to me. If you work hard and support yourself then yes that means alot to be able to say you are happy doing it. I like to do things and go places and if I have to support a man to do it.... then I'd rather go alone. "I live for myself first and foremost; fellow adventurers are welcome along for the ride so long as they as come as sovereign equals - anyone else need not apply. Stowaways and impostors will be swiftly exposed and unceremoniously tossed overboard" I can completely understand that Lily.
But like I said, I work a job that " some " would consider not much above flipping burgers. It pays well considering the area I live in and I don't work particularly hard, although my job is still rather demanding mentally. If someone I am with wants to travel...fine...I get vacation days so I can do that. I may or may not be able to foot the bill, but I definitely wouldn't have to be " supported " in that effort. My OP was just a way of trying to get some clarity on what the heck women mean when they say " must have goals " and if I should even be bothering to be here depending on the answer. Someone's goals may be wanting to travel a lot. Like mine. One day, hopefully I can travel anywhere I want. In order to get there though, I need to continue working hard, learning more and get a better job. |
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My OP was just a way of trying to get some clarity on what the heck women mean when they say " must have goals " and if I should even be bothering to be here depending on the answer.
Someone's goals may be wanting to travel a lot. Like mine. One day, hopefully I can travel anywhere I want. In order to get there though, I need to continue working hard, learning more and get a better job.
Ok. But if that's your goal ( which is fine ) then how are we, as guys, supposed to translate that into US having " goals "?? |
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My OP was just a way of trying to get some clarity on what the heck women mean when they say " must have goals " and if I should even be bothering to be here depending on the answer.
Someone's goals may be wanting to travel a lot. Like mine. One day, hopefully I can travel anywhere I want. In order to get there though, I need to continue working hard, learning more and get a better job.
Ok. But if that's your goal ( which is fine ) then how are we, as guys, supposed to translate that into US having " goals "?? I can't speak for other women. I don't have any goals in mind that I think men should have. It would be different for everyone. As you said, you are satisfied with your job and where you are in your life. So, go with that. There will be women who are perfectly fine with that. |
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My main goal for the next several days is to wake up sucking air..
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My main goal for the next several days is to wake up sucking air..
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