I tend to be a proponent of the "Mitochondrial Eve" theory where basically she would be our matrilineal most recent common ancestor for all currently living humans. Then we just marched out of Africa about 100,000 years ago or so. Who knows though. Its kind of screwy and Im sure there are holes in that theory as well.

i agee i think it is most likely africa is the womb of mankind - but this is more about where as your article states native americans may have come from - if you read and don't agree let me no why please - thnx.

I was responding to Smiless actually. I will look at it. I haven't had a chance.

Thank you for sharing this as I don't know much about the theory you mentioned. It will give me a chance to read up on it. Anything is possible right!

The only reason why I feel like it is slightly more plausible than say the other theory that pre-modern humans left Africa and then developed and dispersed and continued their assent into what we now understand to be modern human is basically because it is a less "sketchy" take on it. Fossils of modern humans have been found in African excavations. Also, stone tools and other artifacts support African origins. And then the mat DNA is merely the icing on the cake because it supports a founding population that moved out of Africa.

Perhaps you are right. It is a topic that many are still researching. If we will know for certain is the question for there are many possiblities.

Give Us Hearts to Understand


Give us hearts to understand;

Never to take from creation's beauty more than we give;

never to destroy wantonly for the furtherance of greed;

Never to deny to give our hands for the building of earth's beauty;

never to take from her what we cannot use.

Give us hearts to understand

That to destroy earth's music is to create confusion;

that to wreck her appearance is to blind us to beauty;

That to callously pollute her fragrance is to make a house of stench;

that as we care for her she will care for us.

We have forgotten who we are.

We have sought only our own security.

We have exploited simply for our own ends.

We have distorted our knowledge.

We have abused our power.

Great Spirit, whose dry lands thirst,

Help us to find the way to refresh your lands.

Great Spirit, whose waters are choked with debris and pollution,

help us to find the way to cleanse your waters.



Great Spirit, whose beautiful earth grows ugly with misuse,

help us to find the way to restore beauty to your handiwork.

Great Spirit, whose creatures are being destroyed,

help us to find a way to replenish them.

Great Spirit, whose gifts to us are being lost in selfishness and corruption,

help us to find the way to restore our humanity.

Oh, Great Spirit, whose voice I hear in the wind,

whose breath gives life to the world, hear me;

I need your strength and wisdom.

May I walk in Beauty.

Earth Teach Me to Remember
by John Yellow Lark



Earth teach me stillness

as the grasses are stilled with light.

Earth teach me suffering

as old stones suffer with memory.

Earth teach me humility

as blossoms are humble with beginning.

Earth Teach me caring

as the mother who secures her young.

Earth teach me courage

as the tree which stands alone.

Earth teach me limitation

as the ant which crawls on the ground.

Earth teach me freedom

as the eagle which soars in the sky.

Earth teach me resignation

as the leaves which die in the fall.

Earth teach me regeneration

as the seed which rises in the spring.

Earth teach me to forget myself

as melted snow forgets its life.

Earth teach me to remember kindness

as dry fields weep in the rain.



Ute, North American

As I Walk with Beauty
As I walk, as I walk

The universe is walking with me

In beauty it walks before me

In beauty it walks behind me

In beauty it walks below me

In beauty it walks above me

Beauty is on every side

As I walk, I walk with Beauty.



Traditional Navajo Prayer

Right. Basically you have a couple theories. Much like evolution. Im not sure where your thoughts lie there but I buy into that. The physical evidence is overwhelming.

I leave my thoughts open for they are all theories. Perhaps in time those who extensively research on this will find out more information for us.

Well what is your best guess smiless? Any thoughts? What if I told you that I had done extensive research on the origins of man over the past 10 years and my conclusion is that we in fact broke off from a species of mallard duck just under 4 million years ago. Would you agree or disagree with that theory and if you disagree, how would you go about arguing the validity of my premise?

I wouldn't agree or disagree with YOUR conclusion. I would read up on it and see first. When it is a theory it is just an opinion. When it is a opinion it can be agreed or disagreed. If you have strong feelings in believing it then so be it. If not that is also good. 90% of the world believes in superstitions still, yet why argue if they feel strongly about it. What will you gain? Maybe a little self satisfaction and a few others who agree with you, but that is it. Until that theory becomes fact one can only either partially agree, not agree at all, or leave it open for further research.

I choose to leave it open for further research until it is a fact.

When it comes to history or religion they are endless possiblities of how it could have been. A neverending debate with people who all believe their theory is correct and some even claiming they are a fact without proving it! That is why I admire scientists because they sometimes get their theories into facts! My hats off to all scientists I say and keep up the good work of endless hours of research at no end.

So in other words, you will allow scientists to research and develop theories but you will not offer any opinion or draw any distinction between a credible hypothesis or a less viable conclusion. Hmm. Okay. Carry on.

Until the theory becomes a fact or the theory is used to make it credible as facts yes.

Then yes that is correct what you say.

Well they are getting closer to that. Do you know what Neanderthal man is?

HEY, HEY, HEY !!! this is a peaceful site for those who want to learn about native americans and related info - take your neaderthal butt some where else!! -

Well I was asking him to offer his opinions on the origins of humans but he doesn't seem interested in taking a position. I thought we were discussing the "out of Africa" theory but I guess not.

have you read the article i posted of the early chinese voyages and thier finding what and who was here when they discovered america yet?

No. I will look right now