I added my performance of the Goddess plain chant. I'm going to chant this daily. Probably several times a day religiously.

I've always needed more 'religiosity' in my life. By that I don't mean dogma, but rather rituals and structure in a spiritual sense.

I've decided to use this Wicca plain chant as my daily 'prayer'. These 'gods' that I am praying to are abstract deities. They represent the creators of this universe. They are the creators of this universe whomever those creators may be.

In other words, no God can say that I'm not worshiping it and simultaneously claim to be the creator of this universe, because it is the creator of this universe that I am worshiping. These are abstract 'gods' and if a mortal man doesn't 'get it' that's his problem. Any decent all-wise supreme being would fully understand what's going on here.

I view the goddess as Mother Earth, as well as Mother Universe. (the High pristess of tarot). I view the Horned God as the the Holy Spirit (the Magician in tarot). As I personally precieve these concepts in my mind.

This will become my "religiosity", but it is not dogmatic as it is far too abstract for that. It is also nothing more than my own personal relationship with the powers that be and has nothing to do with anyone else.

In any case, I've decided to incorporate this plain chant into my daily spirituality. So I put it up on the web site just for the purpose of sharing with anyone who might be interested.

http://www.csonline.net/designer/ideas/magick.htm

It's the "Goddess Chant".

I'm going to redo the 'Bell of Love Chant' entirely. I don't even like some of the words. I think I'm also going to change the word bell to the word chime, and change the word 'need' to 'desire'.

I perfer to let the gods know of my desires. I believe in gods that appreciate desire.

I'm approaching the entire thing from the point of view of my inner child.

Pee on being an adult. That sucks.

what is wiccan? isn't it witchcraft or something like that? don't get mad at me, just curious and i don't know

No. Wiccans dont automatically practice Witchcraft though many do. And those that are Witches and practice Witchcraft are not automatically Wiccan. The two are separate from one another though very often are intermingled.

I don't know precisely, but I found the following definitions on the Internet.

Wicca - the name most modern day Witches use for the Craft. It comes from the Anglo-Saxon word Wicce, meaning to bend or to shape. ...

Wicca - A modern tradition of witchcraft based on the old earth religions of Europe. The term comes from an Old English word meaning "to bend" or ...

Wicca - a modern Western interpretation of witchcraft, and a Wiccan is one who practices Wicca. Wiccans often call themselves witches. ...

Wicca - A neo-pagan reconstruction of witchcraft. Most Wiccans call themselves witches, but not all witches are necessarily Wiccan.

Wicca - is a nature-based religion, a modern survival of an old witchcraft religion which had existed in secret for hundreds of years, originating in the pre-Christian paganism of Europe

Wicca - a modern religion (based on experience rather than dogma) originated by Gerald Gardner in the British Isles in 1950. ...

Wicca - Dettmer v. Landon (1986) declared, "that The Church of Wicca, or Wicca, was indeed a religion and is entitled to protection under The First Amendment." In the 1964 case of the United States v. ...

Wicca - A Pagan religion believed to have been founded, or rather structured and made accessible, by the late Gerald B. Gardner (1884 - 1964) through his published works - Witchcraft Today (1954) and The Meaning of Witchcraft (1959). ...

Wicca - A loosely structured religion under the pagan umbrellas of earth religions. Ancient roots that have resurfaced in the last century have been compiled into a new religion. Gerald Gardner is seen as the father of modern Wicca.

Wicca - conventional name for a cult claiming to be a revival of medieval witchcraft (qv) or witch-religion, now recognized in the United States as a religion. ...

Wicca - a nature-oriented (not nature-worshipping), initiatory, pagan mystery religion based on the traditions and beliefs of tribal Europe

Wicca - A Neo-Pagan movement that emphasizes feminine expressions of the divine.

Wicca - Also called witchcraft; followers worship a female power
(these people seem to forget about the Horned God)

Wicca - A neo-pagan form of witchcraft involving the belief in the Goddess (and sometimes God).


Wicca - a community of followers of the Wicca religion the polytheistic nature religion of modern witchcraft whose central deity is a mother goddess; claims origins in pre-Christian pagan religions of western Europe

Wicca - a nature-based religion popularized in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired British civil servant. ...

Wicca - a wizard, sorcerer, magician

Take your pick or use them all.

Uhh

I think the real problem is that almost anyone who believes that there is spirit in everything and it can indeed be accessed via various practices is considered to be a 'witch'.

This is why things like "The Law of Attraction" or "The Power of Belief" is becoming so popular.

It's basically the same idea, but it's not associated with witches.

Although, I think the Law of Attraction and the Power of Belief, are steering away from the actual elemental 'magick'.

In other words, they are viewing it as being entirely within one's own mind, almost. Or at the very least they view it as being a cosmic connection between the mind and the cosmos.

Therefore they by-pass (or disregard) the need to interact with the elements of the physical universe altogether. They view those things as a mere 'crutch' that truly isn't necessary because it's all 'spiritual' anyway so they almost completely do away with the import of the physical world.

They might be right in their conclusions. Although, they do require visualization which may be mentally making the connection with the physical in a way. And they do like to use pictures and other symbols.

I personally prefer the physical interaction with the elements. But then I've always been a craftsman as well as a scientific-minded person. I like the 'hands on' approach to life.

But some spiritualists perfer to reject the physical world altogether as being almost entirely unimportnat.

It just seems to me that if the goal is physical manifestation, or physical destruction (as in the case of wanting to rid oneself of a disease), then it makes sense to get the physical world involved.

But that's just my one personal view.

I like the alchemy and chanting into the wind or a river canyon.

So I guess I'm a witch at heart.

I would agree with that James, though I know from my own experience I have been referred to as "Witch" based on what I dont subscribe to in my beliefs let alone what I do. Eh, if the pointed black cap fits, wear it.

I know Im much more comfortable in the Earth/Nature worship and that primarily has to do with its tangibility as you eluded to.

Here are some websites and book titles for people who are interested:

http://www.hecatescauldron.org/
http://www.wicca.com/celtic/cc002.htm
http://www.ecauldron.com/

I also recommend just googling the terms and seeing what you find. Read it all and decide for yourself what is useful to you.

One reading list you could use:

http://www.pathcom.com/~newmoon/books.htm

Thank you

No problem. Sorry I didn't post it last night. Feel free to ask specific questions here or email me directly.

Which do you prefer Dunkin Donuts coffee or Starbucks coffee?

You said specific questions.

Specific witchcraft/pagansim/wicca questions can be asked here. All other specific questions go to the "Just Ask JustAGuy" thread.

I prefer just plain old French Roast, but every now and again when Im in the mood for something sweeter, I like Dunkin Donuts Hazelnut coffee. Seeing as I live in New England now, there is a Dunkin Donuts about every 100 feet or so and that kind of settles the debate.

And I found this last night. I still have not gone myself.

http://www.salemwitchmuseum.com/

<------Starbucks girl. Of course, we don't even have Dunkin Donuts here. That I know of.

One day I'll go it sounds neat.

I don't drink coffee so it's OK.

You all play nice here today. I'm letting my son get on the computer and he'll have to be surgically removed before I'm able to get back on. Have a blessed day.