Topic: On The Beach
madisonman's photo
Thu 08/21/08 09:07 AM

yes, thank god none of that stuff has happened in the US. I mean i wouldnt want to have to do anything about it if it did.

bleeding hearts?
please stand behind me.
Just a reminder (Iraq had no links to 911 or terrorism)

Lynann's photo
Thu 08/21/08 09:20 AM
The majority of the 9-11 attackers were in fact from Saudi Arabia.

Why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia?

You remember those folks right?

Good friends of Bush. The Bush connection to the Saudi royal family is well documented. After 9-11 when all air travel ceased in the U.S. except military flights some Saudis still here were flown safely back to their own country.


catwoman96's photo
Thu 08/21/08 09:53 AM
As President Bush said in an address to Congress on September 20, 2001, "Our war on terror begins with al-Qaida, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped, and defeated."

catwoman96's photo
Thu 08/21/08 10:07 AM
Are you saying that Saddam Hussein did not need to be overthrown and that he was not himself very evil? If you believe that iraq is not a terroist breeding ground, perhaps you'd be willing to relocate??? IF you can also believe that the whole middle east is not a ticking time bomb, and leaving there would be disasterous, Im happy for you. must be an easier world to live in knowing that pure evil and terror DO NOT exist.

madisonman's photo
Thu 08/21/08 10:39 AM

Are you saying that Saddam Hussein did not need to be overthrown and that he was not himself very evil? If you believe that iraq is not a terroist breeding ground, perhaps you'd be willing to relocate??? IF you can also believe that the whole middle east is not a ticking time bomb, and leaving there would be disasterous, Im happy for you. must be an easier world to live in knowing that pure evil and terror DO NOT exist.
Under saddam iraq was not a terrorist breeding ground but now it sure the hell is. way to go bush

Lynann's photo
Thu 08/21/08 10:40 AM
You are buying the lies.

Evil does exist as does terrorism.

Why is the middle east such a mess? I'd suggest you look into the history of U.S. involvement in the area. Start in the 1950's and review our actions there. Or perhaps you could go back to post WWII when the Brits and the U.S. as major powers in the UN created the state of Israel. Combine our manipulations with ethnic and religious tensions and you have a mess on your hands.

Terrorist operating in small cells logically can and do move across international borders and while some countries or their citizens like Pakistan seem to be more sympathetic to them I have news for you. Terrorist don't live only in certain countries. If you want to attack every country that harbors terrorist you are going to be very busy.

Oh, don't forget, we have had and will have home grown terrorist here on U.S. soil.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 08/21/08 10:57 AM
This is true, there are many terrorists in the US, the klu klux clan being one. underground politcal parties.

and terroists all over iraq. so please do not insult my intelligence when you say that the war in iraq has NOTHING to do with terrorism. although I do realize there ARE other things involved.
Given iraq's history and natural resources, why should this not be a good starting point to maybe bring about some change to the middle east??

i dont blame americans for causing the ethnic and religious problems in iraq, although Im sure that over the past at least 5 years we have complicated them. and im sure certain middle eastern parties have even MORE hatred now for the US. and probably even more of a desire for nuclear power.




madisonman's photo
Thu 08/21/08 11:03 AM

This is true, there are many terrorists in the US, the klu klux clan being one. underground politcal parties.

and terroists all over iraq. so please do not insult my intelligence when you say that the war in iraq has NOTHING to do with terrorism. although I do realize there ARE other things involved.
Given iraq's history and natural resources, why should this not be a good starting point to maybe bring about some change to the middle east??

i dont blame americans for causing the ethnic and religious problems in iraq, although Im sure that over the past at least 5 years we have complicated them. and im sure certain middle eastern parties have even MORE hatred now for the US. and probably even more of a desire for nuclear power.




Do you realy call people fighting in there own country terorrists? They are resisting an invasion, an invasion based on lies and deceptions. This is a stunt Hitler would have pulled off.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 08/21/08 11:35 AM


This is true, there are many terrorists in the US, the klu klux clan being one. underground politcal parties.

and terroists all over iraq. so please do not insult my intelligence when you say that the war in iraq has NOTHING to do with terrorism. although I do realize there ARE other things involved.
Given iraq's history and natural resources, why should this not be a good starting point to maybe bring about some change to the middle east??

i dont blame americans for causing the ethnic and religious problems in iraq, although Im sure that over the past at least 5 years we have complicated them. and im sure certain middle eastern parties have even MORE hatred now for the US. and probably even more of a desire for nuclear power.




Do you realy call people fighting in there own country terorrists? They are resisting an invasion, an invasion based on lies and deceptions. This is a stunt Hitler would have pulled off.


im sorry, but who are you comparing to hitler? I would hope it is not our president. i can only hope that you are referring to saddam.
how many wars has he particulary been involved in during his lifespan??

madisonman's photo
Thu 08/21/08 11:37 AM



This is true, there are many terrorists in the US, the klu klux clan being one. underground politcal parties.

and terroists all over iraq. so please do not insult my intelligence when you say that the war in iraq has NOTHING to do with terrorism. although I do realize there ARE other things involved.
Given iraq's history and natural resources, why should this not be a good starting point to maybe bring about some change to the middle east??

i dont blame americans for causing the ethnic and religious problems in iraq, although Im sure that over the past at least 5 years we have complicated them. and im sure certain middle eastern parties have even MORE hatred now for the US. and probably even more of a desire for nuclear power.




Do you realy call people fighting in there own country terorrists? They are resisting an invasion, an invasion based on lies and deceptions. This is a stunt Hitler would have pulled off.


im sorry, but who are you comparing to hitler? I would hope it is not our president. i can only hope that you are referring to saddam.
how many wars has he particulary been involved in during his lifespan??
I am comparing our president to hitler the main differance being that hitler was at least a decorated war hero and a great orator but other than they Bush and Hitler have alot in commen

catwoman96's photo
Thu 08/21/08 11:52 AM
wow thats a strong allegation to make about the president. I do hope you have fully reasearched this before making such an accusation.I m assuming this is because bush has sent our troops to war. against terror. and being that iraq has no link whatsover to terrorism, this makes it a crime.
LMFAO

correct me if Im wrong, but any soldier does know the risk involved of signing on the line.

and i dont think bush has ever gassed anyone. hitler did a lot of that. and so did saddam. i really dont understand where all sadam's chemical and biological weapons went.
and how can you even doubt that we mighta had a guess that saddam had weopons like that?? or that he was a threat????

Dragoness's photo
Thu 08/21/08 11:57 AM


I am sooo thankful people like you were not born in the 18th century, you would probly protest the revolutionary war. *****ing and Crying on Not killing the Brits.

You speak a lot of Crap, and you can thank any soldier for that, that is what they fought for, your freedom of speech. You should be thankful you were born in America, you could have been born in China, where you could never speak your mind.
I think the founding fathers are rolling in there graves over the GOP attacks on our freedoms, the Illegal wire taping, the torture and the list goes on and on. Me thinks if you were born in China you would support that government as well.

drinker drinker drinker


madisonman's photo
Thu 08/21/08 11:59 AM
Edited by madisonman on Thu 08/21/08 11:59 AM

wow thats a strong allegation to make about the president. I do hope you have fully reasearched this before making such an accusation.I m assuming this is because bush has sent our troops to war. against terror. and being that iraq has no link whatsover to terrorism, this makes it a crime.
LMFAO

correct me if Im wrong, but any soldier does know the risk involved of signing on the line.

and i dont think bush has ever gassed anyone. hitler did a lot of that. and so did saddam. i really dont understand where all sadam's chemical and biological weapons went.
and how can you even doubt that we mighta had a guess that saddam had weopons like that?? or that he was a threat????

Kitty catwoman the only WMDS saddam had were the ones we sold him when he was fighting Iran. I know history isnt your subject so I will educate you a litte. back in WW2 hitler had the SS attack german radio stations along the border with poland, he even had dead condemed men dressed in polish uniforms left on the sight to enable him to attack Poland with some justification. It sorta reminds me of the plan hatched up in Cheneyes office were they wanted to build small attack boats that resembled Iranian coastal patrol boats and attack the US navy. Iwill give you a link if you like to do some further research. I know this is a long read but if you doubt it go searchhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6481.htm and verify or discount it in a logical way.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 08/21/08 11:59 AM

As President Bush said in an address to Congress on September 20, 2001, "Our war on terror begins with al-Qaida, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped, and defeated."



Even there he lied. We did not start with alqeada, we started with an innocent to the 9/11 event, right?

Dragoness's photo
Thu 08/21/08 12:06 PM

Are you saying that Saddam Hussein did not need to be overthrown and that he was not himself very evil? If you believe that iraq is not a terroist breeding ground, perhaps you'd be willing to relocate??? IF you can also believe that the whole middle east is not a ticking time bomb, and leaving there would be disasterous, Im happy for you. must be an easier world to live in knowing that pure evil and terror DO NOT exist.


I see you bought into the lies told to you. Saddam and bin laden were not allies at any level. The connection was not there. Saddam was used by us on several occasions as an ally in our personal desires in that area, so is he evil or an ally? If he is an evil ally what does that make us?

Even if the whole middle east is a ticking time bomb, is it our business? Was Saddam our business? If he was then how come we never overthrew Castro, he was an evil dictator? OR any of the other dictators still out there?

You have been brainwashed. Saddam has been what he was for a very very long long time before 9/11, we utilized him as an ally on several occasions during this time. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, not one pilot was Iraqi, alqeada is not from Iraq, etc... and so on and so forth.

Bush had a personal agenda for going to Iraq. The logical reasoning behind getting Saddam instead of bin laden is there for all to see if you open your eyes.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 08/21/08 12:16 PM

wow thats a strong allegation to make about the president. I do hope you have fully reasearched this before making such an accusation.I m assuming this is because bush has sent our troops to war. against terror. and being that iraq has no link whatsover to terrorism, this makes it a crime.
LMFAO

correct me if Im wrong, but any soldier does know the risk involved of signing on the line.

and i dont think bush has ever gassed anyone. hitler did a lot of that. and so did saddam. i really dont understand where all sadam's chemical and biological weapons went.
and how can you even doubt that we mighta had a guess that saddam had weopons like that?? or that he was a threat????



If we really want to get to the bottom of this, our illustrious leader went to war to fight a warring tactic.

Terrorism is a warring tactic utilized by all warring peoples.

So our president in all of his great intelligence basically called war against every single nation on this planet because terrorism is utilized by all people who are warring with another people and (this is really smart) he started a war with people who did not utilize the "warring tactic" against us. How very smart of him, not.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 08/21/08 07:11 PM


wow thats a strong allegation to make about the president. I do hope you have fully reasearched this before making such an accusation.I m assuming this is because bush has sent our troops to war. against terror. and being that iraq has no link whatsover to terrorism, this makes it a crime.
LMFAO

correct me if Im wrong, but any soldier does know the risk involved of signing on the line.

and i dont think bush has ever gassed anyone. hitler did a lot of that. and so did saddam. i really dont understand where all sadam's chemical and biological weapons went.
and how can you even doubt that we mighta had a guess that saddam had weopons like that?? or that he was a threat????

Kitty catwoman the only WMDS saddam had were the ones we sold him when he was fighting Iran. I know history isnt your subject so I will educate you a litte. back in WW2 hitler had the SS attack german radio stations along the border with poland, he even had dead condemed men dressed in polish uniforms left on the sight to enable him to attack Poland with some justification. It sorta reminds me of the plan hatched up in Cheneyes office were they wanted to build small attack boats that resembled Iranian coastal patrol boats and attack the US navy. Iwill give you a link if you like to do some further research. I know this is a long read but if you doubt it go searchhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6481.htm and verify or discount it in a logical way.


idk about bush, but you kinda scare me.
and no im not gonna belive what is written by Dr. Federico Fasano Mertens, editor of LA REPUBLICA.

Montevideo, Uruguay, 30 March 2003

whose to say he is not a "nazi" or a paranoid schizo, or a sociopath? this is not a credible source.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 08/21/08 07:14 PM


This is true, there are many terrorists in the US, the klu klux clan being one. underground politcal parties.

and terroists all over iraq. so please do not insult my intelligence when you say that the war in iraq has NOTHING to do with terrorism. although I do realize there ARE other things involved.
Given iraq's history and natural resources, why should this not be a good starting point to maybe bring about some change to the middle east??

i dont blame americans for causing the ethnic and religious problems in iraq, although Im sure that over the past at least 5 years we have complicated them. and im sure certain middle eastern parties have even MORE hatred now for the US. and probably even more of a desire for nuclear power.




Do you realy call people fighting in there own country terorrists? They are resisting an invasion, an invasion based on lies and deceptions. This is a stunt Hitler would have pulled off.


they have been fighting against themselves and bordering countries for years.

kerbear73's photo
Thu 08/21/08 07:26 PM




This is true, there are many terrorists in the US, the klu klux clan being one. underground politcal parties.

and terroists all over iraq. so please do not insult my intelligence when you say that the war in iraq has NOTHING to do with terrorism. although I do realize there ARE other things involved.
Given iraq's history and natural resources, why should this not be a good starting point to maybe bring about some change to the middle east??

i dont blame americans for causing the ethnic and religious problems in iraq, although Im sure that over the past at least 5 years we have complicated them. and im sure certain middle eastern parties have even MORE hatred now for the US. and probably even more of a desire for nuclear power.




Do you realy call people fighting in there own country terorrists? They are resisting an invasion, an invasion based on lies and deceptions. This is a stunt Hitler would have pulled off.


im sorry, but who are you comparing to hitler? I would hope it is not our president. i can only hope that you are referring to saddam.
how many wars has he particulary been involved in during his lifespan??
I am comparing our president to hitler the main differance being that hitler was at least a decorated war hero and a great orator but other than they Bush and Hitler have alot in commen


Bush has nothing in Common with that monster. Even if I hated Bush, I would never compare him to that Monster.....

Lindyy's photo
Thu 08/21/08 07:36 PM
MADMAN, STILL THE CUT AND PASTE KING........

STILL ON A RAMPAGE ABOUT THE WAR THAT IS BEING WON, PEOPLE BEING SET FREE OF A TYRANT...

DEAR LORD, WILL HE EVER END HIS RANTINGS????

LINDYY
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