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Topic: Is Obama Legally Eligible to Serve as President?
izzynavi's photo
Tue 08/19/08 01:11 PM
I received this through email and thought it might be a gimmick.... you be the judge. Having read it, I find that there are some things missing. Don't know what, but some sentences are incomplete or missing some information.... the thing is that it states that Obama is NOT qualified to be president, dus to birth rights.
Also. I ask myself, why now and not during the debates or the election (Clinton vs Obama).

Here's a question for you ...

SOME TIME AGO HILARY SAID SHE HAD SOMETHING ON OBAMA THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ELECTION AND THAT'S WHY SHE ONLY SUSPENDED HER QUEST FOR THE PRESIDENCY. WELL HERE IT IS.

This came from a USNA alumnus. It'll be interesting to see how the media handles this...

Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts John M cCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone.

US Law very clearly states: '. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one's birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.' That Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen is a fact.

Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack Obama's birth, but-after-age-16.

In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time; his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . .. but that would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citizen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than living in Indonesia. This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent.

Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days!!

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 08/19/08 01:15 PM
glasses I heard John McCain was born on foreign soil (in Panama).glasses

Dragoness's photo
Tue 08/19/08 01:17 PM
Someone has been buying into the hate propaganda mail on the internet perpetrated by those racist, hatemongers.

It is not true.

bondageboy08's photo
Tue 08/19/08 01:24 PM
oh well. i'm not voting for obama anyways.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 08/19/08 01:30 PM
glasses If your parent is an American then you are an Americanglasses

WarElephant's photo
Tue 08/19/08 03:50 PM
Edited by WarElephant on Tue 08/19/08 03:51 PM

Someone has been buying into the hate propaganda mail on the internet perpetrated by those racist, hatemongers.

It is not true.


GUYS SOMEONE QUESTIONED THE LEGAL QUALIFICATIONS OF BARRACK OBAMA'S CANDIDACY, IT MUST BE RACISM.

EDIT: But seriously, he's not legally able to become president and neither is John McCain.

mnhiker's photo
Wed 08/20/08 03:59 PM

I received this through email and thought it might be a gimmick.... you be the judge. Having read it, I find that there are some things missing. Don't know what, but some sentences are incomplete or missing some information.... the thing is that it states that Obama is NOT qualified to be president, dus to birth rights.
Also. I ask myself, why now and not during the debates or the election (Clinton vs Obama).

Here's a question for you ...

SOME TIME AGO HILARY SAID SHE HAD SOMETHING ON OBAMA THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ELECTION AND THAT'S WHY SHE ONLY SUSPENDED HER QUEST FOR THE PRESIDENCY. WELL HERE IT IS.

This came from a USNA alumnus. It'll be interesting to see how the media handles this...

Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts John M cCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone.

US Law very clearly states: '. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one's birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.' That Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen is a fact.

Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack Obama's birth, but-after-age-16.

In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time; his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . .. but that would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citizen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than living in Indonesia. This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent.

Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days!!


Disproved by snopes.com:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

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Lindyy's photo
Wed 08/20/08 08:04 PM
THE QUESTION IS - IS OBAMA INTELLECTUALLY AND MORALLY ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HIS STAND ON GIVING AN ABORTED CHILD WHO SURVIVED THE ABORTION THE RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION IS THE MOST HEINOUS ATTITUDE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A HUMAN BEING, EVEN THE MOST LEFT WING LIBERALS AGREE THAT A CHILD SURVIVING AN ABORTION HAS HUMAN RIGHTS.......

LINDYY
AGAIN, TAKING A STAND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD AND NOW THE ONES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION:heart: :heart:

mnhiker's photo
Wed 08/20/08 08:40 PM

THE QUESTION IS - IS OBAMA INTELLECTUALLY AND MORALLY ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HIS STAND ON GIVING AN ABORTED CHILD WHO SURVIVED THE ABORTION THE RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION IS THE MOST HEINOUS ATTITUDE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A HUMAN BEING, EVEN THE MOST LEFT WING LIBERALS AGREE THAT A CHILD SURVIVING AN ABORTION HAS HUMAN RIGHTS.......

LINDYY
AGAIN, TAKING A STAND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD AND NOW THE ONES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION:heart: :heart:


Is it moral to continue a war where men and women are still dying?

The Christian Right cares about the unborn, but what about those who live outside the womb?

It just goes to show the Christian Right are a bunch of hypocrites who love the unborn but apparently don't give a rat's ass about young people still dying in Iraq. explode explode explode

kerbear73's photo
Wed 08/20/08 09:49 PM


THE QUESTION IS - IS OBAMA INTELLECTUALLY AND MORALLY ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HIS STAND ON GIVING AN ABORTED CHILD WHO SURVIVED THE ABORTION THE RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION IS THE MOST HEINOUS ATTITUDE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A HUMAN BEING, EVEN THE MOST LEFT WING LIBERALS AGREE THAT A CHILD SURVIVING AN ABORTION HAS HUMAN RIGHTS.......

LINDYY
AGAIN, TAKING A STAND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD AND NOW THE ONES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION:heart: :heart:


Is it moral to continue a war where men and women are still dying?

The Christian Right cares about the unborn, but what about those who live outside the womb?

It just goes to show the Christian Right are a bunch of hypocrites who love the unborn but apparently don't give a rat's ass about young people still dying in Iraq. explode explode explode


Typical Liberal

mnhiker's photo
Wed 08/20/08 10:07 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Wed 08/20/08 10:11 PM



THE QUESTION IS - IS OBAMA INTELLECTUALLY AND MORALLY ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HIS STAND ON GIVING AN ABORTED CHILD WHO SURVIVED THE ABORTION THE RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION IS THE MOST HEINOUS ATTITUDE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A HUMAN BEING, EVEN THE MOST LEFT WING LIBERALS AGREE THAT A CHILD SURVIVING AN ABORTION HAS HUMAN RIGHTS.......

LINDYY
AGAIN, TAKING A STAND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD AND NOW THE ONES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION:heart: :heart:


Is it moral to continue a war where men and women are still dying?

The Christian Right cares about the unborn, but what about those who live outside the womb?

It just goes to show the Christian Right are a bunch of hypocrites who love the unborn but apparently don't give a rat's ass about young people still dying in Iraq. explode explode explode


Typical Liberal


That all you have to offer?

Pretty lame.

The Righties just hate it when I expose their hypocrisy.

You see, to the far Righties, everyone who doesn't see their isolated, distorted view of the world is a 'typical liberal', whether they technically fall within that definition or not.

When logic fails, use labels.

kerbear73's photo
Wed 08/20/08 10:28 PM




THE QUESTION IS - IS OBAMA INTELLECTUALLY AND MORALLY ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HIS STAND ON GIVING AN ABORTED CHILD WHO SURVIVED THE ABORTION THE RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION IS THE MOST HEINOUS ATTITUDE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A HUMAN BEING, EVEN THE MOST LEFT WING LIBERALS AGREE THAT A CHILD SURVIVING AN ABORTION HAS HUMAN RIGHTS.......

LINDYY
AGAIN, TAKING A STAND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD AND NOW THE ONES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION:heart: :heart:


Is it moral to continue a war where men and women are still dying?

The Christian Right cares about the unborn, but what about those who live outside the womb?

It just goes to show the Christian Right are a bunch of hypocrites who love the unborn but apparently don't give a rat's ass about young people still dying in Iraq. explode explode explode


Typical Liberal


That all you have to offer?

Pretty lame.

The Righties just hate it when I expose their hypocrisy.

You see, to the far Righties, everyone who doesn't see their isolated, distorted view of the world is a 'typical liberal', whether they technically fall within that definition or not.

When logic fails, use labels.


I have seen liberals offer less in the past, I was just making a comment....

And there is more Hypocrisy in the liberals way of thinking.

Like, you are all for saving the People in the world from Wars, but you insist on killing innocent Helpless babies in Abortions...

Lynann's photo
Wed 08/20/08 10:33 PM
McCain was born in Panama to U.S. citizens. His parents being citizens at the time of his birth settle that matter.

Seems fairly silly to pursue this argument that Obama is not legally entitled to the office because of his place of birth (not arguing about the fake birth certificate issue here) For this argument to hold water..well...the conspiracy to make him president would have had to have begun many many years ago.
*COUGH* it's silly...get over it and move on...

Besides, I am sure the conservatives would be singing a different song if Arnold was the presumptive Rep. candidate. Hell's bells there are some who are attempting to change that requirement for the office now. Look into it.

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mnhiker's photo
Wed 08/20/08 10:42 PM





THE QUESTION IS - IS OBAMA INTELLECTUALLY AND MORALLY ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HIS STAND ON GIVING AN ABORTED CHILD WHO SURVIVED THE ABORTION THE RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION IS THE MOST HEINOUS ATTITUDE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A HUMAN BEING, EVEN THE MOST LEFT WING LIBERALS AGREE THAT A CHILD SURVIVING AN ABORTION HAS HUMAN RIGHTS.......

LINDYY
AGAIN, TAKING A STAND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD AND NOW THE ONES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION:heart: :heart:


Is it moral to continue a war where men and women are still dying?

The Christian Right cares about the unborn, but what about those who live outside the womb?

It just goes to show the Christian Right are a bunch of hypocrites who love the unborn but apparently don't give a rat's ass about young people still dying in Iraq. explode explode explode


Typical Liberal


That all you have to offer?

Pretty lame.

The Righties just hate it when I expose their hypocrisy.

You see, to the far Righties, everyone who doesn't see their isolated, distorted view of the world is a 'typical liberal', whether they technically fall within that definition or not.

When logic fails, use labels.


I have seen liberals offer less in the past, I was just making a comment....

And there is more Hypocrisy in the liberals way of thinking.

Like, you are all for saving the People in the world from Wars, but you insist on killing innocent Helpless babies in Abortions...


I don't insist on killing anyone.

mnhiker's photo
Wed 08/20/08 10:45 PM
For the record, I don't agree with Obama's views on abortion.

But there are other issues out there that pertain to life as well.

Like finding a way to get out of Iraq so our young people don't have to keep dying there?

How's that for a pro-life issue?

Lindyy's photo
Thu 08/21/08 04:34 AM

For the record, I don't agree with Obama's views on abortion.

But there are other issues out there that pertain to life as well.

Like finding a way to get out of Iraq so our young people don't have to keep dying there?

How's that for a pro-life issue?


mnhiker, I just knew you would not like my responselaugh

DO YOU NEVER LISTEN TO THE NEWS AND WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN IRAQ????grumble

STILL HAVE YOUR HEAD STUCK IN THE SAND?????huh

Major difference between abortion and a war.....cannot even compare.....I GUESS YOU THINK SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS THE PERFECT LEADER, BEHEADING PEOPLE, COMMITTING CHEMICAL GENOCIDE ON HIS OWN PEOPLE, TORTURE CHAMBERS, RAPE, MASS GRAVES.....:angry:

WAY TO GO MNHIKER.....SUPPORT HUSSEIN AND ALL THE TERRORISTS.....BE MY GUEST.......

LINDYY
:heart:

Lindyy's photo
Thu 08/21/08 04:36 AM





THE QUESTION IS - IS OBAMA INTELLECTUALLY AND MORALLY ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HIS STAND ON GIVING AN ABORTED CHILD WHO SURVIVED THE ABORTION THE RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION IS THE MOST HEINOUS ATTITUDE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A HUMAN BEING, EVEN THE MOST LEFT WING LIBERALS AGREE THAT A CHILD SURVIVING AN ABORTION HAS HUMAN RIGHTS.......

LINDYY
AGAIN, TAKING A STAND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD AND NOW THE ONES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION:heart: :heart:


Is it moral to continue a war where men and women are still dying?

The Christian Right cares about the unborn, but what about those who live outside the womb?

It just goes to show the Christian Right are a bunch of hypocrites who love the unborn but apparently don't give a rat's ass about young people still dying in Iraq. explode explode explode


Typical Liberal


That all you have to offer?

Pretty lame.

The Righties just hate it when I expose their hypocrisy.

You see, to the far Righties, everyone who doesn't see their isolated, distorted view of the world is a 'typical liberal', whether they technically fall within that definition or not.

When logic fails, use labels.


I have seen liberals offer less in the past, I was just making a comment....

And there is more Hypocrisy in the liberals way of thinking.

Like, you are all for saving the People in the world from Wars, but you insist on killing innocent Helpless babies in Abortions...


BUT THEY ARE TOO BLIND (SELECTIVE MEMORY AND REASONING) TO SEE THEIR HYPOCRITICAL WAYS....

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:

Quikstepper's photo
Thu 08/21/08 08:00 AM

Someone has been buying into the hate propaganda mail on the internet perpetrated by those racist, hatemongers.

It is not true.


Ewwww... and the lies of DEMS are ?????

Quikstepper's photo
Thu 08/21/08 08:02 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Thu 08/21/08 08:04 AM


THE QUESTION IS - IS OBAMA INTELLECTUALLY AND MORALLY ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HIS STAND ON GIVING AN ABORTED CHILD WHO SURVIVED THE ABORTION THE RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE PROTECTION IS THE MOST HEINOUS ATTITUDE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A HUMAN BEING, EVEN THE MOST LEFT WING LIBERALS AGREE THAT A CHILD SURVIVING AN ABORTION HAS HUMAN RIGHTS.......

LINDYY
AGAIN, TAKING A STAND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD AND NOW THE ONES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION:heart: :heart:


Is it moral to continue a war where men and women are still dying?

The Christian Right cares about the unborn, but what about those who live outside the womb?

It just goes to show the Christian Right are a bunch of hypocrites who love the unborn but apparently don't give a rat's ass about young people still dying in Iraq. explode explode explode


Is it moral for those govts. to get away with human rights abuses & leave THEIR mess up to the USA to clean up & figure out? Please!!!!

I think it's OTHER countries that some some living UP to do...yu think?

Lynann's photo
Thu 08/21/08 09:27 AM
Lindyy the U.S. didn't give a rats ass what Sadam did for many years. We ignored him killing Kurds along with a long list of pretty vile behavior. We are not in Iraq to "do the right thing"

I have a question for you. Have you ever gone back to the beginning of the invasion of Iraq, actually to what was happening in the six moths prior to the invasion, to examine administration statements about why we were in Iraq?

I think you will find several shifts in focus to say the least. Now we are just being told we have to stay to win but is there a clear definition of winning?

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