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Topic: help!
maryelizabeth10's photo
Mon 08/18/08 08:53 AM
Alright so I don't have kids. But my mom and I run an in home childcare kind of thing. We have watched the same 3 families since the first one was born. We've grown to 6 kids.

We have a huge growing problem. It started with Mallory. She pulls the poop out of her diaper and plays with it. She rubs it all over the toys or the carpet. She's done it about 4 times. You try to address her parents they laugh. They find it so funny because they don't have rules.

Now her cousin Matthew is doing it too. He smears his all over the walls, the carpet, and the toys. But his mother she doesn't wanting him doing it either.

So any ideas how to fix this problem. It's disgusting and honestly I'm so tired of cleaning up to 2 year olds poop. They do know better.

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Mon 08/18/08 08:56 AM
fire them and get new clients....

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Mon 08/18/08 08:57 AM

Alright so I don't have kids. But my mom and I run an in home childcare kind of thing. We have watched the same 3 families since the first one was born. We've grown to 6 kids.

We have a huge growing problem. It started with Mallory. She pulls the poop out of her diaper and plays with it. She rubs it all over the toys or the carpet. She's done it about 4 times. You try to address her parents they laugh. They find it so funny because they don't have rules.

Now her cousin Matthew is doing it too. He smears his all over the walls, the carpet, and the toys. But his mother she doesn't wanting him doing it either.

So any ideas how to fix this problem. It's disgusting and honestly I'm so tired of cleaning up to 2 year olds poop. They do know better.


2 years olds still wearing diapers?????? You might take it upon yourselves to start potty training them.....since the parents obviously haven't chosen to start.....

The kids can then get the joy of watching the poop go round and round in a circle till it disappears!!!! Magic Trick!!!

MaryLinda's photo
Mon 08/18/08 08:57 AM
My two year old grandson was doing that. Him and his mother was in an abusive relationship, now that he is out of it, he doesn't do it anymore. We talked to the doctor about it and they said it was normal for alot of kids to do. I had three of them and never remember any of them doing it.
Also we started potty training him and I think that has helped.
Good luck.

maryelizabeth10's photo
Mon 08/18/08 08:58 AM
It is not that simple. These kids are like my own. We've been raising them since they were 6 weeks old. We started with them and then they had siblings. We are all they know.

Would you fire your kids? You couldn't because you'd still be their parent. And yes I could have them find another place, but is it fair to the kids? They are between 8 months and 3 all 6 of them. They don't know anyone else, but us when their parents go to work.

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Mon 08/18/08 08:58 AM
well....I guess a 2 year old would probably be still in diapers.......but I still go with starting to potty train......

Etrain's photo
Mon 08/18/08 08:59 AM
everytime she does that...flick her in the nose:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

plk1966's photo
Mon 08/18/08 09:00 AM
I have 2 yr old twin grandsons and one of them was doing this also. We do not approve of this behavior either.

We get down to their eye level and talk to them, never using the word no instead we explain why it is wrong and we make the child help clean up the mess. This takes time but it also takes the parents, grandparents and the childcare providers to work as a team.

If the parents are not willing to help you with this then it might be time to tell them that you do not approve of this behavior and would like their assistance to ensure it does not happen at home or in your home. If they do not want this it might be time for you to decide whether or not you wish to continue watching those children or not.

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Mon 08/18/08 09:04 AM
Have you noticed any other behavioral problems or developmental problems with those children. Yes that is a behavior issue that needs to be addressed both with the children and the parents.

It is not all that unusual to have 2 year olds still in diapers, and not to alarm you but the "poop finger painting" is something that children with autism are known to do thats why i asked about the developmental problems.

if you have not noticed any other issues and they are just playing with their poop- its time for tough love- time outs, no goodies, no playing with favorite toys or watching movies and if worse comes to worse after talking with the parents- suspension from the daycare until the behavior has stopped.

maryelizabeth10's photo
Mon 08/18/08 09:04 AM
The thing is these kids don't have the vocab of a normal 2 year old. They can't tell us when they have to potty. Mallory I've tried putting her on the kids potty chair she refuses. Matthew his mom is trying to potty train him, but he refuses to tell us if he has to potty. He goes in his pants.

Now in my opinion that means they arn't ready to be potty trained.

Mallory's older brother Jake is 3. We have been trying to potty train him for a year. He still isn't potty trained.

It's hard to potty train them when we work with them 11 hours a day 4 days a week, but for 3 days they are home with their mom who doesn't care what they do.

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Mon 08/18/08 09:04 AM
you are not looking for the solution...you want sympathy



It is not that simple. These kids are like my own. We've been raising them since they were 6 weeks old. We started with them and then they had siblings. We are all they know.

Would you fire your kids? You couldn't because you'd still be their parent. And yes I could have them find another place, but is it fair to the kids? They are between 8 months and 3 all 6 of them. They don't know anyone else, but us when their parents go to work.

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Mon 08/18/08 09:05 AM
change their diapers sooner?

maryelizabeth10's photo
Mon 08/18/08 09:06 AM

Have you noticed any other behavioral problems or developmental problems with those children. Yes that is a behavior issue that needs to be addressed both with the children and the parents.

It is not all that unusual to have 2 year olds still in diapers, and not to alarm you but the "poop finger painting" is something that children with autism are known to do thats why i asked about the developmental problems.

if you have not noticed any other issues and they are just playing with their poop- its time for tough love- time outs, no goodies, no playing with favorite toys or watching movies and if worse comes to worse after talking with the parents- suspension from the daycare until the behavior has stopped.


The one mother the one of Mallory she's already about to pull them out. Her fiance got switched to the 3-11 shift. So she would rather find an hourly person to watch them so she can save on money. Which to me is pointless because hes only on it for 6 months. So for 6 months you are going to disrupt their routine? They have had this routine since birth and now for 6 months you want to ruin it then expect them to bounce back into it.

Not going to happen...

maryelizabeth10's photo
Mon 08/18/08 09:08 AM

you are not looking for the solution...you want sympathy



It is not that simple. These kids are like my own. We've been raising them since they were 6 weeks old. We started with them and then they had siblings. We are all they know.

Would you fire your kids? You couldn't because you'd still be their parent. And yes I could have them find another place, but is it fair to the kids? They are between 8 months and 3 all 6 of them. They don't know anyone else, but us when their parents go to work.



No I want a solution. But fire them isn't an anwser for me. I don't know about you or your heart, but these kids own my heart. I have watched them say their first word and take their first step. I've helped teach them their colors, their abc's and numbers. When you get attached to a child you can't just say leave my life becaues you have a problem. You find a way to fix that problem.

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Mon 08/18/08 09:08 AM
Potty training is sometimes difficult. You want you childrent o be independant but it needs to be at their pace not yours.

I have 2 kids, my daughter was potty trained around 16 months old but my son was almost 3.

I agree with Franshade, there are signs when we can tell if the child went poopy, change them more often and this behavior will stop also.

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Mon 08/18/08 09:10 AM
Children need consistency so if the parents aren't going to back you up with the potty training it is going to be very difficult for you. but if you want to try- you can start by putting the little ones on the potty 30 minutes after they eat- they might not go but they will begin to get the idea.

I know this is going to be difficult but you have those babies all day- essentially you are the parent for them-

the book "everyone poops" is a great book to read to them

Good luck!!!


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Mon 08/18/08 09:10 AM
Edited by Jules0565 on Mon 08/18/08 09:11 AM
I agree, it is time to potty train. You have to make "going" a game with a reward, I found to be true with my 2 boys. If they went on the potty, they received stickers to place on a game which we taped to the wall.. or else they received a snack, gum, candy. Whatever works, I say!drinker

By the way..at that age they won't tell you that they have to go. Usually 15-20 minutes after they eat or drink you must take them in there.

maryelizabeth10's photo
Mon 08/18/08 09:11 AM
Never mind I'm done.

Saying I need to get rid of them or change them more often sounds like an attack on me.

I do change them every hour. I take damn good care of these kids.

I should have never posted in the first place.

Etrain's photo
Mon 08/18/08 09:11 AM
you've taught them their colors, their abc's and numbers...at 2 yrs old and they finger paint with their own poo???huh huh huh

maryelizabeth10's photo
Mon 08/18/08 09:11 AM
I have been using candy. They have a jar of skittles. They also get stickers.

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